Professional Sportsbetting

[mickeycrimm]

You don't seem to grasp the fundamentals, coach. Sports books rarely "back off" someone. They prefer to put stringent limits on them. So if a famous online sports book (like Pinnacle, for example) limits your golf future to $1.50, is that being "backed off?" Technically, and I know you love technically, the answer is no.

Second, whether something is a "yarn" is largely in the eye of the reader. If a reply of roughly 150 words is considered "rambling," and whether such a story is "implausible," -- the words in quotes come from dictionary definitions of the word yarn -- is something that only a reader can decide.

Third, again, whether someone is "backed off" has more to do with the profile of what they are doing, not whether they have won or lost. For example....you know what, I'll save examples for a podcast.

Thanks again, coach, for your time. I'm trying to limit my responses to 150 words so you don't find them onerous or a "yarn."

It's unbelievable that you think being limited to a buck fifty is not a back off. They are telling you to go fuck yourself. No pro is going to waste their time in that spot. Furthermore getting limited like that is a common theme amongst all professional sports bettors but YOU. They work around it by using other people's accounts then burn those accounts down anonymously and advertise for more accounts. It's a revolving door.

I remember some years ago an NFL playoff game we were is discussing on VCT where the books had Pittsburgh either a 6.5 or 7 point dog. But I bet the game on Bovada getting 7.5 points. You told me that you had accounts at 11 offshore books and none of them had the line at 7.5. I had to tell you that Bovada had that line as you didn't have a Bovada account.

But the point is that you said you have 11 offshore accounts. How have you been able to beat those books for all that money without being limited to chickenfeed betting or getting your accounts suspended? Every other sports bettor of note says it's impossible to get away with it that long. Have you been beating those books for all these years without them taking action against you? If you have then why are you getting special treatment?

PS: Even the sharp books like Pinnacle and Circa that take wiseguy action cap the betting on them.

So let me get this straight. You think that I think that getting a $1.50 limit is "not getting backed off." LOL. Did you even grasp the gist of the post? By coach's standards, is the point, you're not banned, so it doesn't match the warning email from bet365.

I love you guys. You definitely should be posting in "professional sports betting." When I warned kewlJ, more than a year ago, about being "labeled a certain way," what did you think I meant? That "non-recreational" label is the classic go-to these days. The criteria for that are completely subjective and amorphous, so the books have maximum latitude, which they always have had, anyway. They dictate the rules, and they can make them up as they go along. But now they have go-to lingo.

Yes, I did get hit with a $1.50 futures limit on a golf future. Or something like that. May have been $1.27 or $1.33. It was Sergio Garcia, by the way. Coach you can reasonably fault me for a shaky memory on the precise amount. I'm getting old. I'd have to double check.

And mickey, you have no idea why people take or don't take money. You just do not get it. Unless you are betting Billy Walters amounts, and no one is, there are very sound reasons to allow this or that. I can't believe you don't get it. Expertise is insurance of a sort.

And I'm telling you, if you use that multiple account schtick, the offshores can and will keep your money. They are not exactly incommunicado with each other. And then big chunks of your work, and your alleged edge, go out the window the first time an offshore gobbles up 10% of your bankroll for funsies and you have no recourse. Ask Munchkin about the worst hit he took in this regard.

Here you go -- ask Todd what happened when he initially tried to open a Heritage account. What does he think Heritage was doing, and why would they allow some people (me included) to operate with impunity? If you think it was because I was losing money, you got it ass-backwards.

LOL. Mr. Crimm, you are the proverbial kite dancing in a hurricane.

redietz has classic malignant narcissism. He thinks his continual mocking of others will win the day for him. But all he is really doing is harming himself. People pity his poor attempts to appear to be highly knowledgeable while demeaning others as unknowledgeable. He actually thinks that kind of shit works. It's funny and sad at the same time. Classic delusions of grandeur.

Ditz, seriously, please seek counseling for your affliction. The sooner you quit denying you have a problem the better off you will be. Confabulation is most likely your problem.


"Confabulation is a neuropsychiatric disorder wherein a patient generates a false memory."

[redietz]

if a famous online sports book (like Pinnacle, for example) limits your golf future to $1.50, is that being "backed off?" Technically, and I know you love technically, the answer is no.

LOL...The Nutty Professor

The third quote above is from the "coach belly perspective." The term "backed off," according to the dictionary, refers to leaving something alone (as opposed to reducing limits of interaction). Therefore, from a denotative (coach belly) perspective, having an imposed limit of $1.50 is not technically being "backed off." Now do I think having limits reduced to $1.50 is being "backed off?" Of course I do. I'm a connotative kind of guy.

[redietz]

It's unbelievable that you think being limited to a buck fifty is not a back off. They are telling you to go fuck yourself. No pro is going to waste their time in that spot. Furthermore getting limited like that is a common theme amongst all professional sports bettors but YOU. They work around it by using other people's accounts then burn those accounts down anonymously and advertise for more accounts. It's a revolving door.

I remember some years ago an NFL playoff game we were is discussing on VCT where the books had Pittsburgh either a 6.5 or 7 point dog. But I bet the game on Bovada getting 7.5 points. You told me that you had accounts at 11 offshore books and none of them had the line at 7.5. I had to tell you that Bovada had that line as you didn't have a Bovada account.

But the point is that you said you have 11 offshore accounts. How have you been able to beat those books for all that money without being limited to chickenfeed betting or getting your accounts suspended? Every other sports bettor of note says it's impossible to get away with it that long. Have you been beating those books for all these years without them taking action against you? If you have then why are you getting special treatment?

PS: Even the sharp books like Pinnacle and Circa that take wiseguy action cap the betting on them.

So let me get this straight. You think that I think that getting a $1.50 limit is "not getting backed off." LOL. Did you even grasp the gist of the post? By coach's standards, is the point, you're not banned, so it doesn't match the warning email from bet365.

I love you guys. You definitely should be posting in "professional sports betting." When I warned kewlJ, more than a year ago, about being "labeled a certain way," what did you think I meant? That "non-recreational" label is the classic go-to these days. The criteria for that are completely subjective and amorphous, so the books have maximum latitude, which they always have had, anyway. They dictate the rules, and they can make them up as they go along. But now they have go-to lingo.

Yes, I did get hit with a $1.50 futures limit on a golf future. Or something like that. May have been $1.27 or $1.33. It was Sergio Garcia, by the way. Coach you can reasonably fault me for a shaky memory on the precise amount. I'm getting old. I'd have to double check.

And mickey, you have no idea why people take or don't take money. You just do not get it. Unless you are betting Billy Walters amounts, and no one is, there are very sound reasons to allow this or that. I can't believe you don't get it. Expertise is insurance of a sort.

And I'm telling you, if you use that multiple account schtick, the offshores can and will keep your money. They are not exactly incommunicado with each other. And then big chunks of your work, and your alleged edge, go out the window the first time an offshore gobbles up 10% of your bankroll for funsies and you have no recourse. Ask Munchkin about the worst hit he took in this regard.

Here you go -- ask Todd what happened when he initially tried to open a Heritage account. What does he think Heritage was doing, and why would they allow some people (me included) to operate with impunity? If you think it was because I was losing money, you got it ass-backwards.

LOL. Mr. Crimm, you are the proverbial kite dancing in a hurricane.

redietz has classic malignant narcissism. He thinks his continual mocking of others will win the day for him. But all he is really doing is harming himself. People pity his poor attempts to appear to be highly knowledgeable while demeaning others as unknowledgeable. He actually thinks that kind of shit works. It's funny and sad at the same time. Classic delusions of grandeur.

Ditz, seriously, please seek counseling for your affliction. The sooner you quit denying you have a problem the better off you will be. Confabulation is most likely your problem.


"Confabulation is a neuropsychiatric disorder wherein a patient generates a false memory without the intention of deceit."

Mickey, I apologize if you've never taken exams or passed interviews where you actually were evaluated and given a score of some kind. I understand that you think, in your quirky way, that you somehow qualify to know just about everything vis-a-vis gambling. It's an odd thing. You've lived a very socialistic kind of life -- I mean, really, when was the last time you were evaluated and told by an expert that you weren't good enough/smart enough/skilled enough at something?

Or maybe I'm wrong. Why don't you tell us all the aspects of gambling that you're not qualified to evaluate? Personally, I think it's a hoot that you think you're good at everything. You have no formal math training. You have no track record vis-a-vis sports gambling. You're a machine dude who thinks he has it all figured out. Kudos to your ego, my friend. It puts my considerable ego to shame.

[mickeycrimm]

So let me get this straight. You think that I think that getting a $1.50 limit is "not getting backed off." LOL. Did you even grasp the gist of the post? By coach's standards, is the point, you're not banned, so it doesn't match the warning email from bet365.

I love you guys. You definitely should be posting in "professional sports betting." When I warned kewlJ, more than a year ago, about being "labeled a certain way," what did you think I meant? That "non-recreational" label is the classic go-to these days. The criteria for that are completely subjective and amorphous, so the books have maximum latitude, which they always have had, anyway. They dictate the rules, and they can make them up as they go along. But now they have go-to lingo.

Yes, I did get hit with a $1.50 futures limit on a golf future. Or something like that. May have been $1.27 or $1.33. It was Sergio Garcia, by the way. Coach you can reasonably fault me for a shaky memory on the precise amount. I'm getting old. I'd have to double check.

And mickey, you have no idea why people take or don't take money. You just do not get it. Unless you are betting Billy Walters amounts, and no one is, there are very sound reasons to allow this or that. I can't believe you don't get it. Expertise is insurance of a sort.

And I'm telling you, if you use that multiple account schtick, the offshores can and will keep your money. They are not exactly incommunicado with each other. And then big chunks of your work, and your alleged edge, go out the window the first time an offshore gobbles up 10% of your bankroll for funsies and you have no recourse. Ask Munchkin about the worst hit he took in this regard.

Here you go -- ask Todd what happened when he initially tried to open a Heritage account. What does he think Heritage was doing, and why would they allow some people (me included) to operate with impunity? If you think it was because I was losing money, you got it ass-backwards.

LOL. Mr. Crimm, you are the proverbial kite dancing in a hurricane.

redietz has classic malignant narcissism. He thinks his continual mocking of others will win the day for him. But all he is really doing is harming himself. People pity his poor attempts to appear to be highly knowledgeable while demeaning others as unknowledgeable. He actually thinks that kind of shit works. It's funny and sad at the same time. Classic delusions of grandeur.

Ditz, seriously, please seek counseling for your affliction. The sooner you quit denying you have a problem the better off you will be. Confabulation is most likely your problem.


"Confabulation is a neuropsychiatric disorder wherein a patient generates a false memory without the intention of deceit."

Mickey, I apologize if you've never taken exams or passed interviews where you actually were evaluated and given a score of some kind. I understand that you think, in your quirky way, that you somehow qualify to know just about everything vis-a-vis gambling. It's an odd thing. You've lived a very socialistic kind of life -- I mean, really, when was the last time you were evaluated and told by an expert that you weren't good enough/smart enough/skilled enough at something?

Or maybe I'm wrong. Why don't you tell us all the aspects of gambling that you're not qualified to evaluate? Personally, I think it's a hoot that you think you're good at everything. You have no formal math training. You have no track record vis-a-vis sports gambling. You're a machine dude who thinks he has it all figured out. Kudos to your ego, my friend. It puts my considerable ego to shame.

Redietz has confabulated quite the story here. Yes, confabulation is definitely his problem. He should seek help as soon as possible.

[mickeycrimm]

Mickey, I apologize if you've never taken exams or passed interviews where you actually were evaluated and given a score of some kind. I understand that you think, in your quirky way, that you somehow qualify to know just about everything vis-a-vis gambling. It's an odd thing. You've lived a very socialistic kind of life -- I mean, really, when was the last time you were evaluated and told by an expert that you weren't good enough/smart enough/skilled enough at something?

Or maybe I'm wrong. Why don't you tell us all the aspects of gambling that you're not qualified to evaluate? Personally, I think it's a hoot that you think you're good at everything. You have no formal math training. You have no track record vis-a-vis sports gambling. You're a machine dude who thinks he has it all figured out. Kudos to your ego, my friend. It puts my considerable ego to shame.

LOL, I've had tons of training in gambling math. It's just 8th grade math. Addition, subtraction, multiplication and division. That's it. Nothing else. I had all that shit mastered by the 4th grade.

It's really funny reading ditz talking about reading fucking probability books and name dropping some math professor like that makes a shit. It don't. Redietz is so ignorant that he thinks you need a degree in math to write and do gambling equations. It's hyterically funny that he is that dumb....but thinks he's smart.

He is so right that I never went to college. But I remember being the first one to be able to read out loud in first grade. The other kids were way behind me.

And in a dispute with a teacher early in the 3rd grade I was moved to a 4th grade classroom for two weeks. I scored higher on the tests than all the 4th graders so they moved me up from 3rd to 4th. From then on I was a year younger than all my classmates....and a straight A student.

And on aptitude tests I not only scored highest at the school, but highest in the district.

Yeah, sure. I didn't go to college. But I did pretty good at what training I did get.

I don't claim to be the brightest bulb in the room but I damn sure ain't the dimmest bulb in the room.

Remember ditz, gambling math is the same in every form of gambling....and it's easier than shit. Really sad you don't know that.

But keep on confabulating, ditz. It exposes you.

[Garnabby]

Garnabby clearly has an IQ higher than Redietz. That isn't even up for question.

Redietz has a leg up when it comes to whirlwind gambling forays in Vegas. Ha.

Hey, V. I'm heading to LV on June 2nd. Leaving LV late on the 7th. It's better than 50/50 that retired sociologist, author, and Fulbright scholar, Dr. Scott Beck, will be joining me for a subculture-of-gambling-tour week. If our buddy, the coach, wants to join the festivities, he's invited. As is Mr. Argentino and his lovely wife.

Preliminary plans are the Golden Nugget for three nights, probably followed by two nights at the Tuscany. I do want to get out to South Point for a day, so if I bog down there, maybe I'll stay the night. The GN is definite, however.

Anybody wanting to hang out is invited to email me at IntegritySports@aol.com. We don't arrive until late Sunday as we have a DFW stopover.

WizardOfVegas Forum is Dying

[mickeycrimm]

Garnabby clearly has an IQ higher than Redietz. That isn't even up for question.

Redietz has a leg up when it comes to whirlwind gambling forays in Vegas. Ha.

Hey, V. I'm heading to LV on June 2nd. Leaving LV late on the 7th. It's better than 50/50 that retired sociologist, author, and Fulbright scholar, Dr. Scott Beck, will be joining me for a subculture-of-gambling-tour week. If our buddy, the coach, wants to join the festivities, he's invited. As is Mr. Argentino and his lovely wife.

Preliminary plans are the Golden Nugget for three nights, probably followed by two nights at the Tuscany. I do want to get out to South Point for a day, so if I bog down there, maybe I'll stay the night. The GN is definite, however.

Anybody wanting to hang out is invited to email me at IntegritySports@aol.com. We don't arrive until late Sunday as we have a DFW stopover.

WizardOfVegas Forum is Dying

Redietz has ignorantly walked by millions of dollars over the years to be made in Las Vegas casinos. Some of his sports betting peers, like Bill Krakomberger don't have that problem. Here is Krack in one of ditz favorite joints, Ellis Island, making money off a machine while in to eat. The game is called Raise the Sails and I could write about it if I want:

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[accountinquestion]

Redietz has a leg up when it comes to whirlwind gambling forays in Vegas. Ha.

Hey, V. I'm heading to LV on June 2nd. Leaving LV late on the 7th. It's better than 50/50 that retired sociologist, author, and Fulbright scholar, Dr. Scott Beck, will be joining me for a subculture-of-gambling-tour week. If our buddy, the coach, wants to join the festivities, he's invited. As is Mr. Argentino and his lovely wife.

Preliminary plans are the Golden Nugget for three nights, probably followed by two nights at the Tuscany. I do want to get out to South Point for a day, so if I bog down there, maybe I'll stay the night. The GN is definite, however.

Anybody wanting to hang out is invited to email me at IntegritySports@aol.com. We don't arrive until late Sunday as we have a DFW stopover.

WizardOfVegas Forum is Dying

Redietz has ignorantly walked by millions of dollars over the years to be made in Las Vegas casinos. Some of his sports betting peers, like Bill Krakomberger don't have that problem. Here is Krack in one of ditz favorite joints, Ellis Island, making money off a machine while in to eat. The game is called Raise the Sails and I could write about it if I want:

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https://twitter.com/#!/x/status/1788327762497085946

These overly dorky middle aged white guy influencers are the worst. Every fucking gambling degenerate knows that machines can be profitable because of guys like that. Losers.

Redietz is worse though. Redietz has never posted one insightful thing. Perhaps when he goes off into his sports analysis he has said something because I can't even begin to judge sport nerd/handicap knowledge. Mickey has posted more things than I can remember. Although TBF Mickey is kinda like krackerguy but it isn't quite the same. These guys just have too much info. Redietz has no info to even give out. He tries .. then he pulls some bullshit with his classic 'i'll leave it to people to guess because it isn't my job to educate' when in fact he has NEVER actually said anything educational.

[redietz]

Redietz has a leg up when it comes to whirlwind gambling forays in Vegas. Ha.

Redietz has ignorantly walked by millions of dollars over the years to be made in Las Vegas casinos. Some of his sports betting peers, like Bill Krakomberger don't have that problem. Here is Krack in one of ditz favorite joints, Ellis Island, making money off a machine while in to eat. The game is called Raise the Sails and I could write about it if I want:

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https://twitter.com/#!/x/status/1788327762497085946

These overly dorky middle aged white guy influencers are the worst. Every fucking gambling degenerate knows that machines can be profitable because of guys like that. Losers.

Redietz is worse though. Redietz has never posted one insightful thing. Perhaps when he goes off into his sports analysis he has said something because I can't even begin to judge sport nerd/handicap knowledge. Mickey has posted more things than I can remember. Although TBF Mickey is kinda like krackerguy but it isn't quite the same. These guys just have too much info. Redietz has no info to even give out. He tries .. then he pulls some bullshit with his classic 'i'll leave it to people to guess because it isn't my job to educate' when in fact he has NEVER actually said anything educational.

LOL. That's probably why Billy Walters hired me, why I had the best or second best Wise Guys record over 30 documented years, and why even Munchkin had lunch -- I just demonstrate a complete lack of knowledge.

Honestly, my recent little spiel about precision in the Sports Forum, which ran down for Don P this season's MLB history streaks and line adjustments, was likely of more value than all of account's posts to date combined. I bet baseball in a very minimal way. One of my college football wagers is as much as any and all baseball wagers combined, but I like to keep my eyes open. It was the most obvious stuff, and it stood out like the proverbial sore thumb, but none of the VCT luminaries mentioned it. Too much coin flipping, I guess. If you're a coin flipping expert, all you see are coins landing heads or tails.

Again -- LOL -- and Don can verify this. If you had simply done what I suggested in my quiet little post #7 of that thread, posted two days ago, you are well ahead for the week. I suggested in that post and still suggest another five days of firing.

But I never contribute anything of value. Well, that's true if you can't read.

Account, of course, is invited to whatever shows I wind up on, just to display his deep sophistication and expertise. To which account's instinct will be to say that he has little sports expertise, but -- and here's the punch line -- he opines anyway. Nothing like knowing nothing while holding forth in public.

Amateurs. A "professional sports betting" thread full of amateurs. And loud-mouthed ones who don't bother to read.

[smurgerburger]

And let's not forget Tipsters and Gypsters.

[Don Perignom]

Again -- LOL -- and Don can verify this. If you had simply done what I suggested in my quiet little post #7 of that thread, posted two days ago, you are well ahead for the week. I suggested in that post and still suggest another five days of firing.

Sorry, I wasn't paying attention. This was red's recommendation:

Now, noticeable by totals during this past weekend, numbers have shifted down as a response to that run of Unders. My expectation is for Overs to do okay for a spell this week.

My rough tabulation is 9-6 betting the overs Tuesday, and then 8-6-1 yesterday Wednesday. A few narrow losses in there. I graded yesterday's Pirates/Angels (9) as a tie.

He's looking good so far.

I may take a stab or two today, but at the moment I don't see any big value available purely by the numbers. It's a light schedule today.

[accountinquestion]

Triggered.

I still got it, baby.

I stand behind it though. Redietz gives no useful advice. Going back in time and saying you should have bet my picks is LOL. It is all just bullshit opinions. Never an interesting story. The only way redietz knows to try and be interesting is to name drop something.

I quit taking redietz seriously. Rob Singer is a more serious poster than ditz.

[Don Perignom]

I'm in on Guardians/White Sox >8 +102.

Redietz gives no useful advice.

I find I'm not usually on his wavelength, but I accept that he has useful skills in some aspects of sports betting.

[Don Perignom]

Incidentally, BO gave me a deposit bonus:



For some reason, the rollover amount didn't display on the usual indicator. It just showed zero.

Lately I cannot win a bet there. I busted that deposit, and then on the next reload I didn't see a bonus offer. I wasn't planning on taking one anyway.

[mickeycrimm]

Amateurs. A "professional sports betting" thread full of amateurs. And loud-mouthed ones who don't bother to read.

Ditz comes with some more confabulation. He's king of the false narratives. This thread is not about the people who participate in it thinking they are professional sports bettors. It's about taking a look at professional sports bettors and what they have to say and teach.

There have been about a dozen pro sports bettors featured in this thread. The stuff they teach is meat and potatoes. You never hear them demean amateurs when those amateur ask questions. Only ditz does that. Dude has a massive inferiority complex and feels the need to run others down. Sad and pathetic.

[mickeycrimm]

Munch now has his own podcast called Life Is A Gamble. There's been 16 episodes so far but not one featuring you. I'll shoot him an email and see if he will put you on. That is, if you don't avoid it.

Well,well, well. I fired a DM to Munchkin on Twitter about interviewing redietz. Didn't take long to get a response. He said he invited redietz onto the show but REDIETZ DECLINED.

That should tell us everything we need to know about ditz doing any interviews. He never intended to do them. Lying to us the whole time. Chickenshit.

redietz' word is no good.

[Don Perignom]

Astros/Yankees >8.5 +100.

I know this is obvious, but two angles are better than one. I already have a reason now to bet overs, but I'll combine that with line shopping to try to get value on top of value.

[jdog]

Rob Singer is a more serious poster than ditz.

Yep and I think he may have actually got that hit on VP for $1200!

[Half Smoke]

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[cyberbabble]

Redietz gives no useful advice.

I find I'm not usually on his wavelength, but I accept that he has useful skills in some aspects of sports betting.

Most of the games went under last week. They are due to mostly go over this week.
Tout speak at its finest. Once a tout always a tout.