People that write books containing long disproved gambling voodoo a la John Patrick are no different than the more modern YouTube type scammers. They are ALL snake oil salesman. The fact that Rob only sold a small number of books, just makes him a failed snake oil salesman.
Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".
Known colloquially as "The Teahouse Trade" I believe...Originally Posted by accountinquestion
What, Me Worry?
I first "discovered" gambling when my secretary gave me as a x-mas gift John Patrick's "Advanced Craps."Originally Posted by kewlJ
I poured over that book, plus his other one on craps, and posted on his board, filled with new-found gambling zeal.
But then, after breaking my cherry, I sort of readjusted my point of view and realized his was only one way of looking at how to "best" play negative expectation games.
The Big Four and The Little Three will never be forgotten: hopefully John is still alive in Lutz, Florida, sharing war stories via email with Frank Stanton.
What, Me Worry?
V, I know kew's way too dumb to figure this out (which succinctly explains why he cannot be anything close to a winning bj player) but there's a chance you'll eventually catch on.
Look at my working career, which was then followed up by a successful gambling career (notably, the DU bug and that big hit that makes everybody crazy) including 2 books, the most read gaming column ever for 8 years, and all the asset protection. Everything has a reason, and there's an ultimate conclusion (aside from our very comfortable retirement after quite the interesting but chaotic life).
Can you figure it out?
Percy Bysshe Shelley might have come close...Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
"My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.”
Hello, ephemeral life...
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What, Me Worry?
Keep trying. And tell your dummy pal kew that his ranting about Alan reading my 1st book (which he did) and my trying to sell snake oil or whatever he called it....well, big surprise: he's wrong again! There wasn't one word about my play strategy anywhere within The Undeniable Truth About Video Poker. My publisher wanted it but I said no.
See if you can break this to him without too much mumbling.
I don't care about probability as it relates to social science. I only care about probability as it relates to gambling. It was dice gamblers asking questions to mathematicians that started the branch of mathematics known as probability theory. Probability is thoroughly rooted in gambling.Originally Posted by redietz
You are not a math guy because I have never seen you put up even one equation on this or any other forum, that pertains to gambling. All you've ever done is conflated about reading probability books and having friends with degree's in math. That don't cut it.
Richard Munchkin doesn't have to be the math guy. His running partner, James Grosjean is the math guy. The Grosjean Cup at the Blackjack Ball is named after him. He's banned from the gambling knowledge contest for winning to much. The guy can find edges where so called experts like you say they don't exist.
The Ball is not just about blackjack. Every form of gambling is represented. I would love for you to give a treatise at the Blackjack Ball on how EV doesn't apply to sports betting I think you will find some highly knowledgeable people that disagree with you.
I know what your response will be, "blackjack players don't know jackshit about sportsbetting." But there are lots of pro sports bettors at the Blackjack Ball. So find another obfuscation.
Druff, let us know when you receive redietz’ credit score.
The amount of disrespect Redietz spews along with his obvious desire to be respected is phenomenal.
It sure seems redietz bases a lot of his claiming on WHO he says he knows rather than WHAT he says he knows. That's why there's all these characters in every story he tells. I guess it's meant to give him legitimacy of some sort, but he certainly doesn't have the knack for using these people effectively.
Trying to tie in a correlation between high school SAT's and the ability to utilize real world mathematics isn't a very smart analogy. I've never seen mickey, axel, max, AQ or others asking for someone else to do their math on a particular play, and I'll bet their SAT's were nothing to write home about. I know mine weren't, and it's rare that I ever put up calculations supporting my controversial play strategy--or anything else. Yet I did well in all my college math & statistics courses, which led to my having a job later in life where I used calculus, trig, etc. to verify my employee's and customer's representations all the time.
So red, I know it may be difficult for you, but can you please stop trying to impress everybody with this silly and ineffective name-dropping every time you step in it? We have people here who are extremely good in their own right with using math in multiple gambling situations. And I don't seen them trying to throw in the names of these countless academics as their crutches.
We know you're voting for Trump too.
LOL. The amount of unparalleled arrogance, without documented results, without verifiable history, shown by people like you and mickey vis-a-vis sports betting, is off the charts. You don't know anything, but you decide who does. It's flat-out ridiculous. You haven't done anything, and you think you know who has.Originally Posted by accountinquestion
It's incredible, really, An indictment of the AP arrogance. You guys....do you really think any sports book manager cares what teams "Stanford Wong" is betting tomorrow? Yet someone like Jay Kornegay (next to be inducted into the "Sports Betting Hall of Fame") entered the bowl game version of the private LineMasters Contest, which I have won and "my co-host" has dominated, just to see who in that contest was taking whom in advance of the bowl games. He entered as "Korndog," if anyone is interested.
There is an entire world you know nothing about. And yet you think you are expert. Truly bizarre.
All these whizbang APs winning at sports betting. yet the biggest sports bettor in Las Vegas history hired none of them. I guess he didn't know enough. Didn't have the resources, experience, or judgement to figure it all out. He should just have asked mickey crimm and accountinquestion.
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Keep conflating and obfuscating. That's what you are good at. Meanwhile at least one state gaming commision wants to know why the books increase limits for sucker bettors and decrease limits for winning bettors. The sports book execs are hiding under their desks.Originally Posted by redietzLOL. The amount of unparalleled arrogance, without documented results, without verifiable history, shown by people like you and mickey vis-a-vis sports betting, is off the charts. You don't know anything, but you decide who does. It's flat-out ridiculous. You haven't done anything, and you think you know who has.Originally Posted by accountinquestion
It's incredible, really, An indictment of the AP arrogance. You guys....do you really think any sports book manager cares what teams "Stanford Wong" is betting tomorrow? Yet someone like Jay Kornegay (next to be inducted into the "Sports Betting Hall of Fame") entered the bowl game version of the private LineMasters Contest, which I have won and "my co-host" has dominated, just to see who in that contest was taking whom in advance of the bowl games. He entered as "Korndog," if anyone is interested.
There is an entire world you know nothing about. And yet you think you are expert. Truly bizarre.
All these whizbang APs winning at sports betting. yet the biggest sports bettor in Las Vegas history hired none of them. I guess he didn't know enough. Didn't have the resources, experience, or judgement to figure it all out. He should just have asked mickey crimm and accountinquestion.
What Massachusetts is doing is just the tip of the iceberg. State gaming commisions are going to pick up on the fact that limiting the winning bettors to nothing will drive them to illegal books.
https://massgaming.com/wp-content/up...21.24-OPEN.pdf
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/551...books-opt-out/
https://www.oddstrader.com/news/mass...etting-limits/
Redietz, your argument about track records and anonymity flies in the face of winning sportsbettors not wanting to expose themselves and their winning ways. So conflate on, dude.
PS, you are one stupid dude for claiming that we are claiming to be experts. It's an out and out bald face lie by a lying liar. Plain out misrepresentation by a lying liar.
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Druff, let us know when you receive redietz’ credit score.
If you're not experts, why are you misleading readers? I could sit here and blather on about machine play all day like you blather about sports betting. If you'll notice, I don't. Why would I? I'm not qualified.Originally Posted by mickeycrimmI don't care about probability as it relates to social science. I only care about probability as it relates to gambling. It was dice gamblers asking questions to mathematicians that started the branch of mathematics known as probability theory. Probability is thoroughly rooted in gambling.Originally Posted by redietz
You are not a math guy because I have never seen you put up even one equation on this or any other forum, that pertains to gambling. All you've ever done is conflated about reading probability books and having friends with degree's in math. That don't cut it.
Richard Munchkin doesn't have to be the math guy. His running partner, James Grosjean is the math guy. The Grosjean Cup at the Blackjack Ball is named after him. He's banned from the gambling knowledge contest for winning to much. The guy can find edges where so called experts like you say they don't exist.
The Ball is not just about blackjack. Every form of gambling is represented. I would love for you to give a treatise at the Blackjack Ball on how EV doesn't apply to sports betting I think you will find some highly knowledgeable people that disagree with you.
I know what your response will be, "blackjack players don't know jackshit about sportsbetting." But there are lots of pro sports bettors at the Blackjack Ball. So find another obfuscation.
My only conclusion regarding why you type so much about something you don't know is that you like to see yourself type. Good hobby. But you should put that little footnote after each post -- * Not an expert. Very little experience. No corroborated history of winning at sports betting.
Not hard. Just use an asterisk.
What REDietz needs is a client like Dan Mahowny.
-Give me all the home teams, | every game,
both Saturday and Sunday.
- The CFL too?
- All the underdogs. | - Every game?
-And the one horse | in every race, both tracks.
- Every race? You don't even | know who's running!
- For the maximum.
-I hate it when he makes stupid bets. |
- Why not?
- It's disrespectful | to my business and to me.
- Yeah, but RED, it's easy money.
- I'll take his action | if he'll play for real.
That way I feel better | about taking his money.
- Yeah! Ha! Ha! Ha!
-He's probably mad at me. | They all get mad at you.
They lose, and it's | your fault, you know.
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
MDawg Adventures carry on at: https://www.truepassage.com/forums/f.../46-IPlayVegas
Were not experts you're just that big of a fool.Originally Posted by redietzIf you're not experts, why are you misleading readers? I could sit here and blather on about machine play all day like you blather about sports betting. If you'll notice, I don't. Why would I? I'm not qualified.Originally Posted by mickeycrimmI don't care about probability as it relates to social science. I only care about probability as it relates to gambling. It was dice gamblers asking questions to mathematicians that started the branch of mathematics known as probability theory. Probability is thoroughly rooted in gambling.Originally Posted by redietz
You are not a math guy because I have never seen you put up even one equation on this or any other forum, that pertains to gambling. All you've ever done is conflated about reading probability books and having friends with degree's in math. That don't cut it.
Richard Munchkin doesn't have to be the math guy. His running partner, James Grosjean is the math guy. The Grosjean Cup at the Blackjack Ball is named after him. He's banned from the gambling knowledge contest for winning to much. The guy can find edges where so called experts like you say they don't exist.
The Ball is not just about blackjack. Every form of gambling is represented. I would love for you to give a treatise at the Blackjack Ball on how EV doesn't apply to sports betting I think you will find some highly knowledgeable people that disagree with you.
I know what your response will be, "blackjack players don't know jackshit about sportsbetting." But there are lots of pro sports bettors at the Blackjack Ball. So find another obfuscation.
My only conclusion regarding why you type so much about something you don't know is that you like to see yourself type. Good hobby. But you should put that little footnote after each post -- * Not an expert. Very little experience. No corroborated history of winning at sports betting.
Not hard. Just use an asterisk.
And that folks - is all that needs to be said.
Here is the thing about Redietz. I just don't see where he is hurting anyone. And for me, that differs from Singer, Mdawg and T3 (back on the blackjack forum) that I have called out. With these people I honestly saw at least the potential for some people reading their goofy claims/stories and trying to emulate them. Playing a progression wagering system. Or trying to spread 1-50 at a double deck blackjack game or any number of other nonsensical claims that if someone tried, they could be harmed.
I just don't see anyone reading redietz claims and thinking I am going to try to get into sports betting contest for a living. I think that puts redietz (at least for me) much closer to claims by someone like evenbob/spike. If you don't believe him and that is fine, but no need to say too much as their is no real harm being done.
Now there is a second aspect to the claims by people like Singer, Mdawg, and even the late guy that posted as Moses/tater. As an AP, in my case a card counter, that works hard at what I do, and works hard to be able to do it, I am personally offended when someone comes along claiming things that just aren't the way it works. Claiming that they win everyday and casino personel just don't care for example.
So if there is some of that going on with some of you....like you are personally offended at Redietz claims when you work hard at being a successful sports bettor, I could more understand the animosity towards him. BUT, I don't see that either. Is there even anyone here claiming to be a professional sports bettor? Or even that sports betting makes up a significant part of their AP income? No. Not that I have read.
But what I have read some of you say (accountinQuestion, among others), is that you just don't like him, and he is arrogant and talks down to people. and that puts it in the just trolling, bullying someone you don't like category for me. Which of course is what this forum is now.
Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".
You say this shit but you told me a bullshit story about a shuffler that doesn't exist. Now you are protecting us from the liars. Tiresome.Originally Posted by kewlJ
You need to stick with your stories and not go around declaring who is telling the truth and who doesn't. There are many reasons to dislike Redietz. There are many reasons to like Redietz as a poster. I gave the guy a complimentary post at some point recently. I rarely do that.
If you can't read his posts and see his constant condescension towards APs then I shouldn't even engage.
With Redietz it is clearly some form of jealousy there. I don't know of what or of whom but it is clearly there. Regardless, maybe you don't see it because you don't really identify as an AP?
I'm not starting threads fucking with Redietz. I gave up my "bullying". I don't need to explain myself.
Is this all an exercise so that you can wrap it up in the end as you also being a victim of the rest of this board? That it is all based on irrational bullying? Thats how your post reads to me.
It is unfortunate for you that you are not intelligent enough to see what he does. He ignores real questions when you start to delve down into the differences. He is actually avoidant of deep discussions. Yet listen to him and you hear how everyone else is clueless and effectively shouldn't even post.. He wants people to jump through hoops to talk to him, or give him their real info. (Why is that? Exceedingly creepy/disturbing and the main reason I'd never meet the guy.)
Why would i ever go to LV to listen to EV from him? Because of cuskers and dusters? Yet he can't discuss EV with a normal tone. I could and would but he just can't have those discussions.
You 2 are the best of this forum.
Last edited by accountinquestion; 05-29-2024 at 01:55 PM.
Originally Posted by OzzyOriginally Posted by MDawg
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
MDawg Adventures carry on at: https://www.truepassage.com/forums/f.../46-IPlayVegas
The free contest redietz plays are time consuming and don't pay any money. They are not where the real money is in sports betting.Originally Posted by kewlJ
Do you remember redietz saying that for a couple of years he was walking around downtown las vegas with 100K on his person? Notice he avoided saying the money belonged to him.
And do you remember that we all seen the advertising years ago for investors on his site, Integrity Sports?
Now ask yourself why would a world beating sports bettor need investors?
redietz claimed to have 11 offshore accounts for years. If he's a winner how did he keep those accounts for that amount of time while all other winners were getting suspended?
But you are pretty much right. He's harmless. But annoying.
Druff, let us know when you receive redietz’ credit score.
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmThe free contest redietz plays are time consuming and don't pay any money. They are not where the real money is in sports betting.Originally Posted by kewlJ
Do you remember redietz saying that for a couple of years he was walking around downtown las vegas with 100K on his person? Notice he avoided saying the money belonged to him.
And do you remember that we all seen the advertising years ago for investors on his site, Integrity Sports?
Now ask yourself why would a world beating sports bettor need investors?
redietz claimed to have 11 offshore accounts for years. If he's a winner how did he keep those accounts for that amount of time while all other winners were getting suspended?
But you are pretty much right. He's harmless. But annoying.
Charity, mickey. They allow me accounts out of charity.
Actually, I'm sure that Todd has a decent feel for why certain offshores allow certain clients and don't allow others. But you'd have to quiz him on his experiences with some of the offshores.
If you can't figure out why certain offshores would allow certain bettors, all I can say is:
If you don't intrinsically grasp this stuff, you shouldn't be sports gambling because you haven't gotten past D in the alphabet. It suggests a real Rain Man kind of stupidity. It's hard to believe that a worldly person like mickey crimm is so Dustin Hoffman. I don't buy it. I think he's just making arguments he knows are wrong because he's trying to debunk me in some way. He can't really believe the arguments he's making. At least I hope not.
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