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[mickeycrimm]

Good try, mickey. Mr. Munchkin mentioned this at lunch some months ago and we briefly discussed it. I was, of course, horrified but not terribly surprised. My first question was, brick-and-mortar legal books? The people being slotted into these book management positions think, like some here, that sporting events are coin flips, and booking is a way to print money.

What you, as usual, fail to mention are the key elements. First is the fact that what is being addressed here are not the offshores which I have been discussing under "Sports and Sports Betting." Second is the fact that this is a RECENT phenomenon by what are considered LEGAL sports books (although Native American books are, by MY definition, straddling the line between "legal" and "not sanctioned'). In other words, this is the last 24 months or so, and it's by "LEGAL" books.

So other than having no idea what I have said on this RECENT alleged shenanigan by ostensibly LEGAL sports books, you covered the topic with your usual thoroughness and depth.

Here's a kicker for you. I have no legal accounts at the moment. I bet in legal sports books without formal accounts. I have been saving any bonuses for a rainy day and also because I know that most them don't know what they are doing. They are out of control, and some are doing some very questionable stuff under the radar. I know this because I was recently offered an under-the-radar futures wager, which I declined. Why? Because had I won it, I felt it was quite possible the wager would be challenged and negated.

The bottom line is that what made offshores both tolerant of winning bettors and long-lived has NOT been grasped or adopted by many of the bean counters running ostensibly legal books. To put it in historical terms -- the mob knows how to run sports books. To put it in Billy Walters terms, which he laid out pretty clearly way back in Munchkin's bio profile of Walters in the Gambling Wizards book, many of the legal alleged bookmakers have no clue. So they rely on semi-legal shenanigans to protect themselves instead having in-house linesmakers with some savvy to organize their business. If there's one thing Walters emphasized in that book, which was not emphasized as clearly in his recent bio, it was that many people managing legal books are inferior to those managing the "illegal" ones.

Now none of this showed up until legalization a couple of years ago, and now you have some execs trying to make their way in the world who really have no idea what they are doing. The casinos basically can't pay people enough to fill their positions with savvy bookmakers, and they think bookmaking is a way to print money, which it has never been...unless you know what you are doing. The people who have been thrust into management positions for some of these new-blood books don't.

Like many people here, they make the fundamental error of assuming betting sports is like coin flipping.

And mickey, thanks for the question and the opportunity to display a little expertise. Much appreciated.

Thanks for finally admitting the truth. But what you are now saying has been being told by countless other sports bettors long before you.

Mickey, get real. The bottom line is you don't know anything vis-a-vis sports betting. You don't know, as the saying goes, your ass from a hole in the ground.

All you're familiar with are a handful of acquaintances and whatever blather shows up on forums and YouTube. You have zero experience and actually know zilch. Maybe, possibly, you learned something from Munchkin, who has a long history with offshores and what was allowed and so on. My history with offshores is longer and more involved.

Why you insist on playing expert is beyond me. Maybe it's a hobo thing. Men of the rails are men of the world and all that.

It's ridiculous to engage you. You know nothing and are proud of it. Here's a challenge for you. Try to decide whether Mickey Crimm 2023, who thought it was a great idea to "be an expert" and attend Bet Bash with all the other experts, was smarter or dumber than Mickey Crimm 2024, who may be realizing that attending something sponsored by Circa called Bet Bash is pretty damned dumb. You can debate yourself. Should take awhile.

That schnocker of yours is getting pretty long. Once again you bear false witness. I never suggested to anyone to go to betbash. And you can’t put up any quotes, which you always tell others to do. You have a severe problem with the truth. It’s based in your inferiority complex.

Billy Walter’s was at bet bash last year. You just called him stupid for going. A lot of the bet bashers you disparage are good friends with Walters. Too bad the same can’t be said of you. Walter’s don’t even remember your name.

Your sad and angry contempt for others in gambling has made you a bitter and despised person. But go ahead. Continue to lash out. Maybe someday you will convince yourself that you are superior to everyone else.