Originally Posted by smurgerburger View Post
Originally Posted by redietz View Post
Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post

Ironically I have taken up cheating. I am trying to sneak chips on the table over the buyin cap. I think one dealer was suspicous. I kept greens in my pocket and would reload. Then after some $$ moved around and a new dealer I put a few more greens.The cap is $300 but everyone else is a scrub and doesn't ask for greens when it speeds up the game a lot. So the greens stick out but they fit in your pocket and are easy to add. The reds would blend in but you have to add half a stack at a time. Maybe get a table change and do it in route? I did it the last time so I'm working on my approach. I play it off dumb and they'll give me a warning. Not that they would care that much but i don't want to ever be caught if I wish to keep doing it.

Well, I may be wrong (cough, cough), but I did watch the series TILT in 2005, which (truth be told) was based on real people and real events. The Michael Madsen character, for example, was pretty assuredly "based on" Doyle Brunson, in case anyone is interested.

As far as poker cheating, I mean c'mon, you can riffle chips like Morse code if you practice a little. I don't even want to consider what I'd come up with to bolster a stable if stablemates were at the same table. With people having pieces of each other and side bets that dwarf the early payouts, you'd have to be a, pardon the Bugs Bunny




to think this stuff isn't ubiquitous. I've played in little local feeder tournaments to little WSOP events in Mississippi, and you had husband-and-wife collusion aplenty. I knew a couple who took cruises just to play poker with the rubes. So to think that actual poker players playing for big money, with serious side bets, don't exercise their God-given right to communicate under the radar, okay, you have much more faith in the common man than me. Maybe not as much experience. But much more faith.
Actually much more relevant experience.

Cheating is not ubiquitous, though of course it happens. And incidentally it's not nearly as feasible as you seem to think in a large MTT (of which the WSOP ME is the most extreme example), nor as hard to detect if done repeatedly by the same people in the same venues, as per your hypotheticals.
Of course if we were going to try and drill down their strategy to any sort of detail it would be crickets. Yet he knows all about it.

The thought that these couples did this as a strategy and it is an issue is lol. Yes, on occasion they're both at the final table but you can't just sit where you want to be given chip dump opportunities (no one between). It becomes problematic. How often would this ever work?

So now Redietz is talking out of his ass about poker. That couples pull this off and it being worth their time. It doesn't make much sense.

And never one to be aware he is out of his depth, he brings up tournaments as if that is the real issue. Why? Because that's all he knows. Just like in sports betting - it is all tournaments. He's like those tournament heros, 9 million in wins but who knows the other side. All smoke and mirrors. Also why he doesn't get EV at all. Never needed for coinflip tourneys.

Redietz if you're going to give me shit be funny about it. The chest thumping info bluffing douchery won't get you anywhere. I was trying to be nice then smurger wound me up with his post.