The end.

[accountinquestion]

Huh?? It's apparent that neither AinQ nor myself have challenged your counting knowledge. It's the totality of implausible claims and stories... and you know this. Seems your classic go-to move is misdirection.

So then we are back to this: You guys think I learned all I could about blackjack card counting advantage play, things that can only be learned through experience....20 years worth.... so I could move to Las Vegas play some $5 blackjack and troll 8 people on a near dead forum?

Do you know how silly this is? Stupid silly, not funny silly.

And that goes back to what I have been saying and mickey said something similar. You guy know the truth. You just want to play your games.

This is why people suspect you may have/are a prostitute. As an explanation of all this. One asks why? You just ignore what people say and insist on living in an alternative universe. So whatever.

Get help.

[accountinquestion]

Had I been on every blackjack forum for 20 years then I'm pretty damn sure I could come off as an authority on blackjack. Dozens of books have been written on this. You know the minutiae of posters from 10 years ago when it comes to blackjack. Of course you can fake it. Your problem is the bigger lies. You however don't address those and fall back. You may be a +EV counter. I would not be surprised either way. No one cares as that is not an accomplishment. You supporting yourself for 15 years in the same town is where people start to question.

[kewlJ]

he also may be the world's #1 Troll Enabler
.

That he is...without question.

I deleted that message because I had 2nd thoughts about it

you quoted it before I deleted it

but since you quoted it - I was referring to PFA where they have dozens and dozens of nasty trolls - many more than here

Dan is a great poker player no doubt

in fairness to him, I guess he didn't want the headache of monitoring the forums and banning or suspending people - and he felt they sometimes delivered valuable info

so, he thought they were worth having - he's probably right about that - but man - it can get so very nasty - a sad reflection of our society

.

My apologies for quick quoting.

I did know you are talking about PFA. I have only visited there probably 4 times, briefly, but it was enough to see what it is.....THIS troll forum on steroids.

Look Dan banned Singer on this forum for blatant racism. Rob was gone about 6 month and I guess traffic here dropped some, so Dan allowed him back. THAT is pandering to the trolls. And when he allowed him back it was with the understanding that Rob was limited to posting in 1 single thread. THAT was not enforced and was pandering to the trolls that dominate this forum.

I get that on a forum like this, the trolls and trolling is what bring traffic. But what the fuck kind of traffic is that? Is that the traffic you want on a forum named Veags, Casino Talk, supposed to be about discussions of Vegas and casinos and gambling?

I remember Dan Druff making the statement that he allows some trolling among the AP's on this site. As if to say "friendly" trolling. Well there is nothing friendly, nor should be acceptable about the trolling and attacks I endure every day. Some of it that would result in real consequences in the real world. An attorney would be disbarred or sanctioned over the lies and accusations Mdawg makes daily. People have told me I should pursue a complaint to the California Bar and even directed me on how to do so. I just choose to not do that kind of thing.

But that doesn't change the fact that the shit that Druff allows is just not acceptable. Accusing someone of criminal activity, does NOT fall under free speech. It is slander and people are found liable for it.

[kewlJ]

You supporting yourself for 15 years in the same town is where people start to question.

I have explained how I have done that. The style of play I adopted and things I do that are all geared towards longevity, which was my top priority since the day I arrived in Vegas. And most of those things I have explained (some I no doubt shouldn't have) are not in any of these books you speak of.

You are going in circles. You are basically saying, Yes, I believe you have spent 20 years learning everything you can to the point that you know things only a very experienced player would learn and you did this so you can play $5 blackjack and troll 8 people on a forum.

Do you know how fucking stupid that is?

Look, I am not going to keep going in circles. What you are saying makes no sense.

I am not writing a book (may someday, but probably not now). I am not selling anything. I don't benefit if 3 of the 10 people on this forum believe me or 7 believe me. It doesn't change what I make or who I am.

But I am a blackjack AP that has supported myself for 15 years in this town and I have a right to share some of those experiences if I desire without the 3rd grade bullying and complete lies that ya'll engage in.

[accountinquestion]

You supporting yourself for 15 years in the same town is where people start to question.

I have explained how I have done that. The style of play I adopted and things I do that are all geared towards longevity, which was my top priority since the day I arrived in Vegas. And most of those things I have explained (some I no doubt shouldn't have) are not in any of these books you speak of.

You are going in circles. You are basically saying, Yes, I believe you have spent 20 years learning everything you can to the point that you know things only a very experienced player would learn and you did this so you can play $5 blackjack and troll 8 people on a forum.

Do you know how fucking stupid that is?

Look, I am not going to keep going in circles. What you are saying makes no sense.

I am not writing a book (may someday, but probably not now). I am not selling anything. I don't benefit if 3 of the 10 people on this forum believe me or 7 believe me. It doesn't change what I make or who I am.

But I am a blackjack AP that has supported myself for 15 years in this town and I have a right to share some of those experiences if I desire without the 3rd grade bullying and complete lies that ya'll engage in.

You don't want to listen to what people say so you misinterpret or forget repeatedly.

Now it is others going in circles. Pathetic. That's why I want you out in the world doing stuff to come back and talk about because it is you running in circles. Classic projection.

[accountinquestion]

Just to remind everyone. Kewl told me a story that is simply not really possible. The origin of it was via an unsolicited PM. Why he did this I can't say. Then he misleads and ignores all the other rubbish he's claimed and acts like people are saying he never plays blackjack. He needs help.

Asked about jdaewoo or Midwestplayer knowing him in rl like he implied ... and oddly he went silent .... as soon as pressed on another chance to give himself a shred of real life credibility.

Had he stuck solely with his basic story (which is what he always references) Then he would not be called out by most on here. The thing between him and singer/mdawg is just as much his creation.

[accountinquestion]

I'll prove I'm a real person by meeting someone tomorrow. someone I've never met. From this forum.

Imagine that.

[kewlJ]

Asked about jdaewoo or Midwestplayer knowing him in rl like he implied ... and oddly he went silent .... as soon as pressed on another chance to give himself a shred of real life credibility.

I have not met Midwest player in real life. I know him from forums dating back 18 years. But I believe, am not 100% sure but believe he knows people that I do know and have met.

But I am not going to say who I know or have met. I am not on trial and some of these people have asked me not to even mention them on THIS forum. THAT is how bad this forum is.

One of the players I know, have met and has been to my home posts at WoV and he even posted there that he knew me. I didn't ask him, nor will name him or link to it.

It always goes back to some of you inexplicably think I am on trial. Think that a guy sharing things on a forum need prove this or that? Have I asked you for any of this?

[Rob.Singer]

Big difference: I'm famous....and I've led a hugely productive life!

I've been on real radio stations, TV channels, I've had two books published, I've been very happily married for 46 years with 2 children and 4 grandkids, I was Gaming Today's most popular and read weekly columnist for 8 years--and no one has come close since, Ive always been and remained to this day in great physical & mental shape due to exercise/smart eating & drinking/never smoking/never a drug user, I've met with and trained/advised/chatted with hundreds of other players & critics thru the years, and I had a very successful working career before I became a well-known vp professional.

Love this guy. (not really) and his wild imagination. He's famous! That is choking type funny shit!

Did you think anyone here who's labeled you as a proven liar--which is EVERYONE --to expect anything other than your usual, nervous denial?!

Face it kew, your gig was exposed long ago. A blackjack player super-infatuated with how the game works and all of it's fascinating legacy? Absolutely. A winner who cuts the cheese in the face of those who actually have the discipline and temperament to succeed--and who know how to tell the truth? You GOTS to be kidding!!

[kewlJ]

That's why I want you out in the world doing stuff to come back and talk

Don't give me this shit! I have done and continued to do this. This year I shared in details 2+ months of my brother and me traveling around the country exploiting a blackjack video machine play that he stumbled on. What did I get? Trolling, trolling, trolling.

I have also shared the sportsbook bonus that I have been doing since last September. And that is just about all I am doing at present, as I just don't feel like going out much this summer that has been brutally hot (even by Vegas standards). The sports bonus hustling is almost guaranteed to account for the majority of my AP income this year. Regular blackjack is currently 3rd, but I haven't played a great deal due to a lot of travel on the other play in the spring and not wanting to go out much right now.

But I hope to do more traditional blackjack play this fall. If I do and results are good, meaning even close to expectation, this will be one of my better years, possibly even my best, as I have 5 different streams of AP income, although, not sure the mailer bonus game is going to net much if anything.

I would love to share some specifics because I am proud of what I am doing and have accomplished. But why bother. I already know the trolling responses.

[accountinquestion]

Asked about jdaewoo or Midwestplayer knowing him in rl like he implied ... and oddly he went silent .... as soon as pressed on another chance to give himself a shred of real life credibility.

I have not met Midwest player in real life. I know him from forums dating back 18 years. But I believe, am not 100% sure but believe he knows people that I do know and have met.

But I am not going to say who I know or have met. I am not on trial and some of these people have asked me not to even mention them on THIS forum. THAT is how bad this forum is.

One of the players I know, have met and has been to my home posts at WoV and he even posted there that he knew me. I didn't ask him, nor will name him or link to it.

It always goes back to some of you inexplicably think I am on trial. Think that a guy sharing things on a forum need prove this or that? Have I asked you for any of this?

Exactly..you can't name one person you've met yet you implied you had. Same ol same ol

[accountinquestion]

That's why I want you out in the world doing stuff to come back and talk

Don't give me this shit! I have done and continued to do this. This year I shared in details 2+ months of my brother and me traveling around the country exploiting a blackjack video machine play that he stumbled on. What did I get? Trolling, trolling, trolling.

I have also shared the sportsbook bonus that I have been doing since last September. And that is just about all I am doing at present, as I just don't feel like going out much this summer that has been brutally hot (even by Vegas standards). The sports bonus hustling is almost guaranteed to account for the majority of my AP income this year. Regular blackjack is currently 3rd, but I haven't played a great deal due to a lot of travel on the other play in the spring and not wanting to go out much right now.

But I hope to do more traditional blackjack play this fall. If I do and results are good, meaning even close to expectation, this will be one of my better years, possibly even my best, as I have 5 different streams of AP income, although, not sure the mailer bonus game is going to net much if anything.

I would love to share some specifics because I am proud of what I am doing and have accomplished. But why bother. I already know the trolling responses.

You have shared details but the details have never helped your case. I also gave you a chance to admit to the bs you told me and I'd never troll you. I got a fuck you (off?)

Get help.

[smurgerburger]

The fact that nobody knows anybody that knows KJ, despite his claim to have worked on AP teams etc., like the fact that his supposed backrooming left no trace online despite supposedly being covered by multiple local news networks, is actually extremely damning.

I'm guessing I'm four degrees tops separated from everyone on this forum that is in any sense an AP, and I'm a complete anti-social hermit. (I'm only two degrees separated from redietz and I know two people on here directly.)

As I've said before KJ has become a victim of his own success (as a fraud that is). You can claim for a few years to have been a LV counter who doesn't know anyone, you can't keep the story going for 20 years without it becoming crushingly improbable.

Maybe that's why he faked his death way back when. He knew he couldn't keep the story up. But then he realized not being able to post on the forums was a fate worse than death.

[accountinquestion]

Lol singer must be grinnin big

You are the best though kewl. You always deliver.

[MDawg]

Ultimately it seems kewl just loves attention in any and all forms. If he was serious about protecting his gig then he wouldn't be on the internet for a decade+ talking about it but he can never meet anyone. None of it makes sense. Just like Singer.

Big difference: I'm famous....and I've led a hugely productive life!

I've been on real radio stations, TV channels, I've had two books published, I've been very happily married for 46 years with 2 children and 4 grandkids, I was Gaming Today's most popular and read weekly columnist for 8 years--and no one has come close since, I've always been and remained to this day in great physical & mental shape due to exercise/smart eating & drinking/never smoking/never a drug user, I've met with and trained/advised/chatted with hundreds of other players & critics thru the years, and I had a very successful working career before I became a well-known vp professional.

Kew OTOH is a stone cold loser. He was thrown out of his mommy's house back east, he chose to become a queer because he had no idea how to act around women, he's riddled with the medical problems you'd expect of someone with a ratty past & no future, he mooched off of a fat old man for as long as he could until he was forced to move out of a dead man's house, and because he's such a failure in life he uses the internet as his alternate reality safe space, where he not only concocted a phony life online--he's spent the better part of a decade getting caught lying about it.

Other than that....yeah, we're similar.

Notice that UNKewLyingJ responded only to the first part of R.Singer’s post. Not the second. He could try with yet another 10X Multiplier response he’s TILTed with many in this thread already, desperately trying to dig himself out from the lies and contradictions that keep burying him.

Just like A.Wolf said…just another Bullshit reason (presented at 10X Multiplier length) as to why he won’t accept any challenge (not even one he proposes himself, then recants). I mean hell, the only viable reasoning for turning down some of the challenges sent his way are…that he has no way to deliver because he’s an utter fraud. Especially when you consider how obviously desperate he is to prove himself.

As AccountInQuestion has said more than once,

Get Help.

[smurgerburger]

Thinking about it more I think four degrees was too conservative.

I'm three degrees from Tasha (and as with redietz this is just me relying on the connections I happen to be aware of).

ETA - One degree from Tasha if we're counting not in person contact.

[redietz]

I'll be heading to LV in a week or two. Tell you what, kewlJ. Since you said I was bullshitting about getting Trump at even money, why don't you meet me in person, I show you the site where I did it, I'll show you the actual dated wager, and then you can pay me the amount of our wager plus $6.51 for a Starbucks coffee at the Golden Nugget.

I hate when people who have no veracity doubt my veracity.

Anyway, there's the offer. I won't even take your pic on a phone.

I'll report on dates and times next week. It'll be in the next 10-17 days -- have not pinned things down yet.

By the way, if you want to see something wild, pull up Tuscany rates for the 5th versus the 4th of August. The 4th is $45 plus resort fee. The 5th is $8,500 (I presume they'll give you a pass on the resort fee.). That's the biggest discrepancy I have ever seen day-to-day.

I should do a separate post for this, because I think it is an all-time LV disparity record for the same room day-to-day. The 5th probably includes a film of Boz making out with Tasha, Todd's book on "How to Win Friends, Influence People, and Pay Half for Mini-Bar Items," and an hour-long meat-and-greet date with Rob's penis.

[accountinquestion]

"I won't even take your pic with a phone" as if the default would be to take a picture.... things that make ya go mmmmmmmmmmm

[kewlJ]

and then you can pay me the amount of our wager plus $6.51 for a Starbucks coffee at the Golden Nugget.

We have NO wager Redeitz. If you think otherwise you are mistaken. I happen to have two different wagers with several different sports book involving the election, but none are with you. You may have proposed a wager. I think I remember these different amounts proposed, 10k, 20k, my net worth (which I doubt you can cover). But I accepted nothing. I just don't play that internet game of pissing wagers that never come about. Kind of reminds me of Moses and his stupid challenges to play one on one in blackjack. Silly.

Red, there was a time I considered meeting you, for a meal or cup or coffee (I don't drink coffee). At that time you seemed more normal and somewhat harmless. But the thing that always prevented me from doing so, was comments by you early on where you pretended not to understand why an AP needed to protect their anonymity. After that I always had a tiny bit of suspicion with you.

Now, I don't know if you are conveniently forgeting or maybe you are having the type of senior moments Rob frequently has but 6 days ago you posted this:

And unlike Rob or MDawg, I will track you down. Bet on it.

So have a nice Vegas trip Red, but I won't be meeting with you, nor paying off any imaginary bet that you think we have.

This forum is a whole fucking forum of retards. Must be the discarded rejects from every other forum.

[jdog]

You don't want to listen to what people say so you misinterpret or forget repeatedly.

This is precisely what I define as misdirection. He pretends he didn't see it or didn't understand, then redirects to some nonsensical point. It's always his go-to move.

You guys think I learned all I could about blackjack card counting advantage play, things that can only be learned through experience....20 years worth.... so I could move to Las Vegas play some $5 blackjack and troll 8 people on a near dead forum?

Of course not (and your response is yet another misdirection btw) It's not just here, it's been every gambling or blackjack forum you could find. Of course you're not here to troll, you want to be looked up to as a highly successful, prolific AP in every way. But it hasn't worked here so you have resorted to trolling.