Cherokee tribe

[ZenKinG]

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA. MOST RIGGED FUCJING N---- TRIBE EVER. NO WONDER WE ATOLE YOUR FUCKING LAND AND WHY YOUR BUILDING IS FUCKING DEAD AND DARK AND MISERABLE IJ THERE. FROM NORTH CAROLINA ALL THE WAY TO OKLAHOMA AND ANYWHERE IN BETWEEN. MARK MY FUCKING WORDS. FUCK WITB ME AND SE EWHAF HAPPENA U FYCKING N---- FUCKING MONKEY FAGGOT REDAKIN PIECES OF N--- TRASH. I DONT LOSE AT ANYTHINT I FUCKING SO.EVERY FUCKING DRONE IN TBERE HAS NO FUCKING CLUE WHATS GOING ON OTHER THAN ME. THIS IS WHY IM THE BEAT. I KNOW WHEN SOMETHING IA FUCJED UP WHILE ALL U FUCMING RETARDS DONT GIVE A FLYING FUCK OR DONT KNOW ANY BETTER QITH YOUR FUCKING PIEGEON BRAINS

THEN THEG AAY ATEPHEN PADDOCK WAS A BAD PERSON HAHAHAHAH. HE JUST KILLED THE QRONG PEOPLE. EVERYONE IN THIS FUCKING TRIBE SHPULD BE TORTURED IN A FUCKING CHAMBER LET ALONE GO DIE IN TUEIR REDAKIN N----- BLOOD FUCKING PIECES OF TRASH. NO WONDER WE ATOLE YOUR FUCKING LAND. FUCKING INDIAN TRASH

AND ZHOUF OUT YP THE FUCKING SECURITY GUARD WAFCHING KE ON THE PARKING LOT. YOU WANT MY FUCKING AUTOHTAPH?? I DONT BLAME YOU SO DO I. WHEN YOURE THE FICKING ZECOND COMING OF JESUS CHRIST YOU GET SECURITY GUARDS WATCHING YOU IN THE PARKING LOT. HAVE FUN CHEROKEE ENJOY YOUR RIGGED FUCKING WINNINGS EVEN THO I DIDNT LOSE I GOT SCAMMED BY A FUCKING CORRUPT N----- TRIBE TJAT WHO THE GICK KNOWS HOW THEYRE STILL OPERATONG LEGALLY. PHH WAIT. THEY OWN GAMING LOOOL

[PositiveVariance]

How much did they get you for?

No lie, I honestly thought of you, 2 Saturdays ago when Trump was nearly taken out.

[kewlJ]

And then there is THIS.

Where are we talking about now? What casino, in what location?


And something I asked years ago....why do you insist on playing these Indian Casinos, that you think are not offering honest games? Whether they are or not, if you think they might be cheating, play somewhere you have more confidence in.

Ever heard the joke that a guy goes to the doctor and says it hurts when I raise my arm. The doctor says, well then don't raise your arm. If you lose at Indian casinos or a particular Indian casino, every time, whether real or not, don't play there.

But whatever!

And yeah, adding Stephen Paddock to your public threats is a great idea.

[MDawg]

Where are we talking about now? What casino, in what location?

YOU'RE asking someone to clarify where an incident happened?

People have a problem with you primarily because you’re as big of a self righteous hypocrite as there is in this world.

[pinchingyourballs]

If you don't want to get scammed at an indian casino, you have to do the secret greeting at the door. Say "how" and then tap your palm to your mouth while saying boo-boo-boo-boo-boo.

[kewlJ]

Where are we talking about now? What casino, in what location?

YOU'RE asking someone to clarify where an incident happened?

Look fucktard, REAL blackjack card counting advantage play, involves variance. I know you don't understand this because you are not a real player and tell stories of winning ALL the time or 95% of the time, but that just is NOT how it works in the real world. You know what percentage of my sessions I win in a year are? 53-55%. maybe a really good year 56-57%. Blackjack card counters LOSE...almost as much as they win in terms of sessions or days.

Zenking is an experienced card counter by now, and people tell me has been somewhat successful. So he should know how it works by now after what 8-10 years. So if he is going to take the extraordinary step of accusing a casino of cheating, he should name that casino.

I named the casino 3 times that I thought were cheating me, and one I ended up proving that I was wrong. And do you know WHY I was able to prove that I was wrong? because several players I know, contacted me and suggested I was wrong, that they have played that location for many years and their results are very much in the normal range. So I went back and played some more, took another look and it turns out I was wrong. Had just jumped the gun due to some bad variance.

If you name the casino, here is what could happen. You may have several other somewhat known players that come forward and state that they too have experienced unusual results, that made them suspicious at that location. Doesn't PROVE anything but if a number or legit players have experienced the same thing, there might very well be something to it. Certainly worth maybe avoiding that location.

On the other hand maybe several known players come forward and say, I have played that location for years and have noticed nothing unusual or even I have had very good results (above expectation) most years.

But of course, you are just doing your troll thing, so none of this really matters. Plus you aren't a real player, just a guy writing a story.

[kewlJ]

I will share a story from my experiences. In the past couple years I have gotten away from the grinding, mid-level blackjack play that I engaged in for about 12 years. I now play a little differently. But during those 12 years I played to a big rotation of always at least 30 casinos, which I played anywhere from a couple times a month, to once a week. A lot of these games weren't great games, or even good games. Borderline playable by my criteria. But I played them to fill out my rotation.

So included in that rotation was a trip downtown at least once a week. I would park at one end, either the sweaty Spaniard end or the plaza end and walk to the other end and back, playing casinos at both ends and several in between. So one of those "in between" places I hit every week, was Golden Gate, just because it was right across the street from the Plaza which was in my rotation. It wasn't a good game. 8 decks, mediocre penetration. Probably not even really up to my playable criteria. But I literally walked by it and it was close to playable, so I stopped in for a session almost every week.

It didn't take long before I realized my results were not very good. As time went on, I would say unusually bad. For a long time I was slightly in the red at that location. Eventually pulled into the black ever so slightly, but still way, way below expectation. I didn't think that much of it at the time, because there was a sister property, the D (This was before the family grew with Circa), and the D had that same borderline game (at best) and I was doing well. Above expectation.

Eventually after I don't know, 8-9 years, and way, way below expectation, I decided something wasn't right and I stopped playing that location. I never accused them of cheating, because I didn't think I had that right. But I did mention my unusual results, and this was once a week for 8 years so probably 400-500 sessions. the reason, I even mentioned it was because I thought there might be a player or two that said I have played there for years and my results are normal. But that didn't happen. No one said that.

Didn't PROVE anything, but with other options available I just saw no reason to play a game I was unsure of. And then a couple years ago, the third member of that casino family opened in the Circa. they actually have a fairly decent game and I am doing quite well over the couple years. So it seems unlikely that one casino in this family would be cheating while I had good results at the other two, but why keep playing if you have any doubts.

And that is the bottom line with Zenking. I don't mind him sharing some bad results. venting. Maybe seeing if anyone else speaks up with unusually bad OR GOOD results that he can compare to. But just this going off the deep end that he is being cheated every time he loses is just bizarre to me. How has he survived for 8-10 years?

[Rob.Singer]

And there he goes again. Z starts a thread, then kew predictably needs to make it all about him with yet another fabricated story.

Imagine the boredom this little pissant goes thru each and every day.

[kewlJ]

And there he goes again. Z starts a thread, then kew predictably needs to make it all about him with yet another fabricated story.

Imagine the boredom this little pissant goes thru each and every day.

Wrong watermelon breath. The guy started a thread. The same thread he has started about 100 times now, that goes like this. FUCKING CROOKED CASINO CHEATED ME. THEY DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE FUCKING WITH. i AM GOING TO KILL THEM ALL.

I simply shared some thought of how I handled some similar experiences and my thought process, in the hopes that it may help him work through his emotions and make better decisions. I am sure it won't as he will either ignore me or give me the old "Fuck you KJ". But I tried.

Now you Rob, know nothing about blackjack, so there is really no reason for you to even open your big black mouth, except to shove some more watermelon in.

[MDawg]

The longer the UNKewl post, the more lies it contains.

And of course, there will be some regurgitation of theory he pulled from somewhere or other blah blah blah as he tries to make it seem like he has actually played and not just read about it.


UNKewlJ has gotten to the pitiful point where he cries over being picked on, and wonders why anyone would bother picking on such a helpless person in the first place.

Poor poor KJ. Always the victim.

[MDawg]

And there he goes again. Z starts a thread, then kew predictably needs to make it all about him with yet another fabricated story.

Imagine the boredom this little pissant goes thru each and every day.

Hmm. When I had the bar in Santa Barbara there was a gay bar in the same block and we got a lot of their business. You are sounding like some of the self-obsessed Queens I got to know in those days. Everything was always about them, and if it wasn't about them they used extreme melodrama to make it about them. You’re sounding just like that to me. You rant and rave and then say, oh my, why is everybody paying so much attention to little old me. Sound familiar?

Lol. Nailed it. Kewl managed to turn this whole thread into being about him. At least in his own head.

I'm rather certain he has money from something he feels shame over.
Most likely a prostitute

Pretending to be some hero AP gives him purpose and a sense of accomplishment.

[MDawg]

Kewl's lies just branch out like a tree. Start with one lie then sprout into a whole bouquet of lies. Kewl's lies are more personal because they're weirdly misleading in a way that is dangerous because they're actually believable.

Kewl can't back down on a lie until he has been cornered and recornered. Just piles on more lies hoping it somehow helps his credibility. His reasoning for not proving his lies with the minimum of documentation is nuts given how hard he tries to convince. His responses are nuts.

How many times is he going to give some version on "I don't care what others think"? He clearly tries everything he can to prove stuff to people but then vehemently denies doing so and refuses to *EVER* provide even a picture of a surfboard or anything else. It is just endless with the guy. He is really just not someone who should ever be taken seriously on ANY level.

Kewl won't fess up to his numerous lies. The only thing we can do to get a few more miles out of this is to get him to try and defend an existing lie with some more nonsense.

[pinchingyourballs]

And there he goes again. Z starts a thread, then kew predictably needs to make it all about him with yet another fabricated story.

Imagine the boredom this little pissant goes thru each and every day.

Yes, let's refocus on the incoherent all-caps rant.

[monet]

If you don't want to get scammed at an indian casino, you have to do the secret greeting at the door. Say "how" and then tap your palm to your mouth while saying boo-boo-boo-boo-boo.

FUCK!
I've been doing it wrong for 30 years.
I always go, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo... woo, woo, woo, woo,
And end it with: Me got lot of wampum.
Me Kemosabe.
You show me Blackjack Table, now.

[jdog]

And the award for the most spelling errors in a single post goes to...

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA....

[MisterV]

Zendouche's post was riddele with typos and errors, more so than usual.

He's either drunk, drugged, or getting Alzheimes.

[DGenBen]

Hey, be careful what you say about him.

He is the ZECOND COMING OF JESUS CHRIST after all.

[kewlJ]

He is the ZECOND COMING OF JESUS CHRIST after all.

Well he is NOT that, but he may very well be a competent or even good card counter.

My brother moved to Vegas 9 years ago and I was in the process of teaching him card counting and what I do when Zenking moved to Vegas, so he has been here 8 years I am guessing. I specifically didn't want to get too involved with Zenking because I was working with my brother at that point and thought Zenking would be a bad influence. probably one of my smarter decisions.

But if Zenking has been in Vegas 8 years (is he still in Vegas?) and succeeded at card counting as others have told me, he is doing something right. And he almost assuredly isn't acting and talking at the tables the way he does on this forum. So I don't know what these occasional ranting posts/threads are about. Is it just some kind of venting? I don't know. But it is a little weird at this point of his career.

[MisterV]

Is the Zen-mastur(bator) in sin city?

His post rants about the Cherokees and I don't think they have a presence in sin city.

Presumably things got "too hot" and he's road tripping.

Whatever...he's still a tool.

[mcap]

He is the ZECOND COMING OF JESUS CHRIST after all.

Well he is NOT that, but he may very well be a competent or even good card counter.

My brother moved to Vegas 9 years ago and I was in the process of teaching him card counting and what I do when Zenking moved to Vegas, so he has been here 8 years I am guessing. I specifically didn't want to get too involved with Zenking because I was working with my brother at that point and thought Zenking would be a bad influence. probably one of my smarter decisions.

But if Zenking has been in Vegas 8 years (is he still in Vegas?) and succeeded at card counting as others have told me, he is doing something right. And he almost assuredly isn't acting and talking at the tables the way he does on this forum. So I don't know what these occasional ranting posts/threads are about. Is it just some kind of venting? I don't know. But it is a little weird at this point of his career.

ZenKING is probably a better card counter than you and your brother combined from what I’m hearing.