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[kewlJ]

He is the ZECOND COMING OF JESUS CHRIST after all.

Well he is NOT that, but he may very well be a competent or even good card counter.

My brother moved to Vegas 9 years ago and I was in the process of teaching him card counting and what I do when Zenking moved to Vegas, so he has been here 8 years I am guessing. I specifically didn't want to get too involved with Zenking because I was working with my brother at that point and thought Zenking would be a bad influence. probably one of my smarter decisions.

But if Zenking has been in Vegas 8 years (is he still in Vegas?) and succeeded at card counting as others have told me, he is doing something right. And he almost assuredly isn't acting and talking at the tables the way he does on this forum. So I don't know what these occasional ranting posts/threads are about. Is it just some kind of venting? I don't know. But it is a little weird at this point of his career.

ZenKING is probably a better card counter than you and your brother combined from what I’m hearing.

If he is, power to him.

Ps. I have made about 1.6 million counting cards (excluding supplemental AP). My brother just over 500k.

I highly doubt zenking had made more that 2 million, but if he has good for him.

[jdog]

He is the ZECOND COMING OF JESUS CHRIST after all.

Well done sir... that one gave me quite a giggle.

[jdog]

It didn't take long before I realized my results were not very good. As time went on, I would say unusually bad.

I will say this regarding Golden Gate, there are some strange things afoot there. I'd prefer to not get into the wife and my experiences specifically but it's been interesting. Plus it seems to be the training ground for new dealers at the Stevens' properties so you have to pay attention at the tables.

[kewlJ]

It didn't take long before I realized my results were not very good. As time went on, I would say unusually bad.

I will say this regarding Golden Gate, there are some strange things afoot there. I'd prefer to not get into the wife and my experiences specifically but it's been interesting. Plus it seems to be the training ground for new dealers at the Stevens' properties so you have to pay attention at the tables.

I think you should get into. Lets see how it stacks up with other players experiences and if there is something going on, at least serve to warn a few players that might stumble upon this.

Yes, very obviously a lot of new-sih dealers dealing slowly. That is not an ideal situation for me, not only because of the slow speed of the game, but pit tends to watch the newer dealers more careful, and that is the last thing I really want. But like I said before, I was literally walking bye so, I would play a very non ideal game for me. And frankly it just didn't matter if I were to have been backed off or even barred or trespassed from that location, which NEVER occured. And they don't initiate contributions to the databases. So basically, a free roll.

One of the things that made me suspicious about GG was the behavior of the pit. because the place was never crowded, at least during daytime hours when I played downtown most, you could almost always get heads up play (or one other player at most). But it also meant that the pit critters were watching that game pretty closely. As much as I try to camouflage some things with spreading both ways, and short sessions, ect, a Max bet of even $300 was a big deal at that casino at that time of day. So when pit folks are watching me closely and I spread and it is a place that seems like they wouldn't be very tolerant and the pit just doesn't seem to mind, I am always a little suspicious. then you start seeing unusual results over a significant period and you get even more suspicious.

I have had this occur a few times. You can call it paranoia, but experienced players get a gut feeling when things aren't right. And I am not talking about normal variance.

[kewlJ]

Now here is another situation. The one were I accused a casino of cheating and now admit or say I was wrong.

It was 2020. Covid year. I was about 20 grand up when casinos shut down in March. So when casinos re-opened in June, I went on one of those bad runs of about 30 some grand over several weeks that I something go on. What made this unusual, is that the majority of these losses were at one casino. I'll name it. South Point. (wait, am I allowed to even say those words? Well in this context I can. Other context, maybe not. ).

So I was playing South Point a lot right after casinos re-opened because they always had many $25 and up tables that weren't crowded. And I wanted to avoid crowded table right after covid. So I played there frequently for a couple months, and that included this really bad run, where I seemed to lose just about every session and day. And normally sweaty South Point pit critters didn't seem to care about my spreading. So I quickly and I guess erroneously, concluded they were up to something and posted it. I was thinking removal of a couple favorable cards.

Very quickly, I heard from not 1 but 2 different players that had played South Point several times after re-opening and played the same $25 tables and pit and games, and they were saying normal distribution of results. One suggested if I really thought they were removing several favorable cards, that I show up and watch them open the tables and see if I saw anything suspicious about the opening procedures. So I did.

And there was something a bit unusual about the opening procedure. As anyone who has waited and watched the opening knows, both a pit person and then dealer check all decks, both sides of every card to be sure all cards are there and no unusual markings. then there is a "wash", followed by a shuffle. So when the pit guy was checking the decks, he would walk around the pit, cards in hand flipping through them, rather than do so right at the table like you are supposed to. At times his back was to me the player, which completely defeats the transparency aspect of the whole opening of a table. I though. "ah, I got him"!

But I played anyway that day, and guess what? I won. First time in weeks after dropping 30 some grand in a number of weeks. then I won several more times, maybe 3 out of 4, and decided, that I had been wrong with my hasty accusation. I just experienced a really bad run for 3 weeks or a month at that location.

So your gut feeling isn't always right, but as an experienced player, I will go with my gut every time. especially when a normally sweaty location and/or pit suddenly doesn't seem to care and you experience unusual results. That is a red flag for me.

[theywontpayontuesday]

The problem couldn't possibly be ZK's fault, no it cannot be. ZK better go change his dirty diaper and get control of himself and his life.

[monet]

Who gives a Fuck about ZK?
Not Me.
My issue is this FagJ writing paragraph after paragraph when he is supposed to be at THE END.
Holy Shit, Nobody types out as much shit as she does.

[MDawg]

No one is actually reading any of her lengthy lies, but I agree that after all the hullaboo declaring this was The End, she should no longer be here.

She couldn't even Stay Dead how may we expect her to keep her word about walking away without dying?

Best to just ask kew how close he is to faking his own death again.

[MisterV]

You clowns are always attacking KJ: why is that?

Not because he's lied before: hell, his two biggest haters have woven quilts of colorful lies.

Theory: because unlike all or most of the haters, KJ still finds joy and some excitement in being a card counter in LV, i.e. he isn't JADED like a lot of the swinging dicks here are.

[mcap]

Sorry V, but that dog won’t hunt: you’re just trying to be contrarian and stir the pot.

[DaveDandry]

It seems to be a call and response thing with these three. Not sure what motivates all three of them, but they all are getting something out of it.

You clowns are always attacking KJ: why is that?

Not because he's lied before: hell, his two biggest haters have woven quilts of colorful lies.

Theory: because unlike all or most of the haters, KJ still finds joy and some excitement in being a card counter in LV, i.e. he isn't JADED like a lot of the swinging dicks here are.

[Rob.Singer]

It seems to be a call and response thing with these three. Not sure what motivates all three of them, but they all are getting something out of it.

You clowns are always attacking KJ: why is that?

Not because he's lied before: hell, his two biggest haters have woven quilts of colorful lies.

Theory: because unlike all or most of the haters, KJ still finds joy and some excitement in being a card counter in LV, i.e. he isn't JADED like a lot of the swinging dicks here are.

I tingle when reading mdawg obliterate kew.

V: I think you meant "boy and excrement".

[mickeycrimm]

In 1830, when the Cherokee were exiled to Oklahoma, Andrew Jackson felt so bad about how they had been discriminated against that he let them keep their slaves....and take them to Oklahoma too. But you never hear about any blacks being on the Trail of Tears. I wonder why.

[MisterV]

Not to hijack this wonderful thread, but the above post reminded me that slavery was a good thing...unless you're the slave.

Slavery allowed The South to develop and made a lot of people in The North a lot of money.

[ftpjesus]

Tilt much OP?

Depending on where your at there are other options. Ceaser's opened a casino in Danville VA and theres a few others along the NC VA border

[mickeycrimm]

Not to hijack this wonderful thread, but the above post reminded me that slavery was a good thing...unless you're the slave.

Slavery allowed The South to develop and made a lot of people in The North a lot of money.

The worst thing that happened to blacks was the invention of the cotton gin. There weren't that many slaves in South Carolina in the late 1700's. Then the invention of the cotton gin opened the floodgates for imported first generation slaves. By the 1820's all white men above the age of 17 were required to ride night patrol twice a month to keep the slaves in check. Many slaves were Angolan with military backgrounds.

[MisterV]

Yes, and IIRC various African tribes enslaved their captives and sold them to the white slavers.

[mickeycrimm]

Yes, and IIRC various African tribes enslaved their captives and sold them to the white slavers.

White slavers wouldn’t go inland in Africa. Disease would kill them. They bought the slaves on the coast from black slavers.

[Rob.Singer]

What a much better world we'd have if Africa never existed.

[kewlJ]

What a much better world we'd have if Africa never existed.

Correct. We wouldn't have you and your African blood.