Big Casino Wins and Jackpots

[redietz]

Robert, like some others here, laps up his daily dose of Kool-Aid from the MAGA dog bowl, resulting in an old-fashioned mind-fucking by a multiply convicted felonious flim-flam man.

Now, MrV, my argument with you isn't that you are wrong. My argument is that the alternative is worse.

I'm an old journalism major, so the Biden crew horrified me. The Biden administration has overseen the worst abuse of centralized censorship in the history of the United States. That is not hyperbole. It's not even close to hyperbole. What happened during Covid days online was as bad as anything the Soviets or Chinese have done to their populations' ability to communicate regarding important topics. Unprecedented in US history. So whatever you say about the Trumpster, I see the current Dems as worse in ways that will permanently alter American communication.

[MisterV]

I dislike both candidates and will vote as I always do: Libertarian.

Not that I agree with their platform, I just am contrarian.

[Rob.Singer]

I dislike both candidates and will vote as I always do: Libertarian.

Not that I agree with their platform, I just am contrarian.

That's why you've turned to posting quite often on this hate site V. You're always looking for posts you "claim" to disagree with just to stir the pot. It's also why you falsely support kew the faggot liar, and now the tamale. These two have been absolutely excoriated by me--one a compulsive liar and the other an addicted compulsive vp loser--so you feel the need to get into the fray by lying about me....most probably because you 100%know these are nothing but little people compared to me.

And this is EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT HERE--HATEFUL LYING, INSULTS, AND A FEELING OF HELPING THE LITTLE PEOPLE BECAUSE THEYRE HELPLESS!!

I mean, look at the beaner. He pops in after long intervals with pictures trying to get admiration for merely pushing buttons on a computer, because he sure ain't using no skills with THOSE Indian casino pay tables. And unlike you, who announces that you EXPECT to lose as you claim to play for entertainment, this bozo actually WANTS readers to believe he's a winner---just like the other minority kew! 100% chance he has a very colorful collection of w2g's while he loses every single year, and that his hands sweat grease as he gets close to landing in LV.

So I say it's great to have another controversy featuring hate, bigotry, lying, and even a little liberal political misguidance over our next president trying to ruffle the unruffleable thrown in! Get on with it!!

[MisterV]

Maybe.

But my support for KJ is not completely fabricated: I still hold out hope that a portion of his claims are true.

IIRC you are currently traveling around the country; if I may ask, are you staying in motels or have you the use of an RV?

[Keystone]

I dislike both candidates and will vote as I always do: Libertarian.

Not that I agree with their platform, I just am contrarian.

That's why you've turned to posting quite often on this hate site V. You're always looking for posts you "claim" to disagree with just to stir the pot. It's also why you falsely support kew the faggot liar, and now the tamale. These two have been absolutely excoriated by me--one a compulsive liar and the other an addicted compulsive vp loser--so you feel the need to get into the fray by lying about me....most probably because you 100%know these are nothing but little people compared to me.

And this is EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT HERE--HATEFUL LYING, INSULTS, AND A FEELING OF HELPING THE LITTLE PEOPLE BECAUSE THEYRE HELPLESS!!

I mean, look at the beaner. He pops in after long intervals with pictures trying to get admiration for merely pushing buttons on a computer, because he sure ain't using no skills with THOSE Indian casino pay tables. And unlike you, who announces that you EXPECT to lose as you claim to play for entertainment, this bozo actually WANTS readers to believe he's a winner---just like the other minority kew! 100% chance he has a very colorful collection of w2g's while he loses every single year, and that his hands sweat grease as he gets close to landing in LV.

So I say it's great to have another controversy featuring hate, bigotry, lying, and even a little liberal political misguidance over our next president trying to ruffle the unruffleable thrown in! Get on with it!!

See this is what I mean. This is funny and entertaining to read….not like the boring copy and paste extravaganzas that loser MTurd posts constantly

[Cerveza Fria]

I dislike both candidates and will vote as I always do: Libertarian.

Not that I agree with their platform, I just am contrarian.

That's why you've turned to posting quite often on this hate site V. You're always looking for posts you "claim" to disagree with just to stir the pot. It's also why you falsely support kew the faggot liar, and now the tamale. These two have been absolutely excoriated by me--one a compulsive liar and the other an addicted compulsive vp loser--so you feel the need to get into the fray by lying about me....most probably because you 100%know these are nothing but little people compared to me.

And this is EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT HERE--HATEFUL LYING, INSULTS, AND A FEELING OF HELPING THE LITTLE PEOPLE BECAUSE THEYRE HELPLESS!!

I mean, look at the beaner. He pops in after long intervals with pictures trying to get admiration for merely pushing buttons on a computer, because he sure ain't using no skills with THOSE Indian casino pay tables. And unlike you, who announces that you EXPECT to lose as you claim to play for entertainment, this bozo actually WANTS readers to believe he's a winner---just like the other minority kew! 100% chance he has a very colorful collection of w2g's while he loses every single year, and that his hands sweat grease as he gets close to landing in LV.

1) Hey Gringo, I'm not a beaner. You can't even do an ethnic slur correctly.
2) The only loser fraudster is YOU. Just because you consistently make up bullshit about your VP prowess with bullshit theories, doesn't mean that others do. You're projecting.
3) Just because you've never actually hit a big jackpot (taking pictures of other people's wins don't count), you try and pour water on other people's hits.
4) I never claimed to be an AP, and I only play VP occasionally. But at least my jackpots are real.
5) Shackelford never called me a fraud. You, on the other hand, he nailed perfectly.

[SLaPiNFuNK]

Dealt Ax4AA

Held A__AA

Drew A4AAA

Wrong hold for TDB

[Rob.Singer]

Dealt Ax4AA

Held A__AA

Drew A4AAA

Wrong hold for TDB

Holding just the 3 Aces on TDBP is the wrong math hold, but it's the correct Singer Play Strategy hold only when playing that strategy. SPS is structured around certain imperative cash-out goals in order to go down in denomination, and continue. With it's 800 credits minimum--and possibly 4000 as you experienced here--going down in denomination has a much better chance of happening by tossing the kicker.

Great example of getting lucky Jason!

[SLaPiNFuNK]

Dealt Ax4AA

Held A__AA

Drew A4AAA

Wrong hold for TDB

Holding just the 3 Aces on TDBP is the wrong math hold, but it's the correct Singer Play Strategy hold only when playing that strategy. SPS is structured around certain imperative cash-out goals in order to go down in denomination, and continue. With it's 800 credits minimum--and possibly 4000 as you experienced here--going down in denomination has a much better chance of happening by tossing the kicker.

Great example of getting lucky Jason!

I prefer not to hold the kickers.

[coach belly]

Wrong hold for TDB

I notice that below the denomination icon, it says "Min Bet $1.00"

I can't recall ever seeing that before.

Does that mean you must bet at least 2 credits on a 50 cent machine?

The paytable shows a column for betting 1 credit, does the Deal button not activate if you only bet 1 credit?

[Cerveza Fria]

Dealt Ax4AA

Held A__AA

Drew A4AAA

Wrong hold for TDB

Holding just the 3 Aces on TDBP is the wrong math hold, but it's the correct Singer Play Strategy hold only when playing that strategy. SPS is structured around certain imperative cash-out goals in order to go down in denomination, and continue. With it's 800 credits minimum--and possibly 4000 as you experienced here--going down in denomination has a much better chance of happening by tossing the kicker.

Great example of getting lucky Jason!

So Singer the fraudster is advocating a hold that goes against the math. Schmuck, the whole point of playing TDB in the first place is to hit the hands with he kickers and the higher payouts. If you're going to do that, then stick to jacks or better, or someother game without the kickers. What a schmuck! Don't ever criticize anyone for playing non-optimal pay table games again. "SPS" actually stand for "Stupid Pussy Strategy".....What a stupid Gringo!

[Cerveza Fria]

Dealt Ax4AA

Held A__AA

Drew A4AAA

Wrong hold for TDB

Yes, wrong hold, but Nice hit anyway. Don't listen to Singer. He's an idiot.

[coach belly]

Don't listen to Singer.

He threw the kicker away before Singer commented.

What's the difference, mathematically, between holding the kicker vs drawing 2 cards?

[Cerveza Fria]

Don't listen to Singer.

He threw the kicker away before Singer commented.

What's the difference, mathematically, between holding the kicker vs drawing 2 cards?

Huge difference. As reflected in the payout (4000 v. 800 credits).

[Rob.Singer]

Don't listen to Singer.

He threw the kicker away before Singer commented.

What's the difference, mathematically, between holding the kicker vs drawing 2 cards?

First coach, the illegal is furious this hit was posted by anyone but him.

Jason may already have known that tossing the kicker in this game was one of my special plays that deviated from expert strategy. He was holding the camera when he and his dad filmed the math give-up and rationale behind many of these type plays. While this particular one didn't make the cut, Alan & I discussed it many times.

Ever since I stopped playing my strategy in early 2004, I always play optimal strategy on all hands. But there's absolutely nothing wrong with taking these shots when you're playing recreationally. His win proves that. And just one hit of this kind because of how he chose to play it, very likely more than makes up for all the times he gets beat on the hold. IE---it's not like it's gonna be dealt to him a thousand times.

[accountinquestion]

The higher variance play is keeping the kicker. The "special play" (aka special education) is just lower variance and expectation.

Less gamble , less likely to hit a big hand, lose more money.

What sort of idiocy is this shit?

[SLaPiNFuNK]

Wrong hold for TDB

I notice that below the denomination icon, it says "Min Bet $1.00"

I can't recall ever seeing that before.

Does that mean you must bet at least 2 credits on a 50 cent machine?

The paytable shows a column for betting 1 credit, does the Deal button not activate if you only bet 1 credit?

I never tried playing less than max bet on these machines. They are bar top games, not sure if that makes a difference. This casino is so massive, crowded, crammed, and loud I hate going here. I only go because the free play offers are worth it. I'll look and see if it is on other machines as well as other denominations.

[SLaPiNFuNK]

The higher variance play is keeping the kicker. The "special play" (aka special education) is just lower variance and expectation.

Less gamble , less likely to hit a big hand, lose more money.

What sort of idiocy is this shit?

I've been doing "Special Plays" like Rob describes even before I met him.

None of you will ever play enough hands of video poker to realize these mathematical returns. I'd rather pull two cards for a chance at an Ace and possibly also get a kicker...

Holding 4 cards for 1 shot at an Ace that is a 1 in 47 chance at pulling the case Ace. I can't even count how many open ended straights I've held and can't even hit 1 of 8 cards when having an 8 in 47 chance...

Some of my special plays:

IF I'm playing a shit pay table (which I do try to avoid), like if a full house only pays 8 on DDB and I'm dealt 222XX, I will go for the 222 and hope for quads. Many times I pull another full house.

IF I'm playing DDB and I'm dealt KKQQX, I will pick either the KK or QQ and go for quads or better. However, If I'm dealt 5566X, I will hold that two pair. Get more than enough 2 pairs dealt no reason to hold a two pair when it pays even money... Also, again... pulling 1 card with a 4 in 47 chance of hitting a full house, so rare to hit, I'd rather have 3 cards to pull to hit trips, another full house, or quads (which I've done multiple times).

IF I'm playing a progressive and am dealt 3 to the royal and 3 of a kind, I will break up the 3 of a kind if the progressive is high enough... I've hit royals twice this way...

As much as you all don't believe it, Robs plays make sense and they are better plays than what "the book" or "math" says...

[accountinquestion]

You also draw to a 4 keeping aaa4.

I thought Robs whole strategy was to go big go home. This play makes no sense outside of wanting to play longer.

Actually it is more reasonable if you were to take into account irs taxes but I'm not seeing that argument made.

If you don't agree rob is an idiot then I have 2 words for you.

Wise up.

[accountinquestion]

Also you're kinda right about realizing the mathematical return, it is also true that the one time you hit the 1 outer for 4000 could just as easily be missed band you hit a crappy kicker instead.