MDawg system wins him $400K in one bacc session - watch for patterns - press into them

[Half Smoke]

he describes his system in detail in this quote from another forum

maybe my thread title was not exactly correct - it may have taken him the whole trip to win 400K - not sure - maybe he will clarify

the following is what he posted:


"I didn't read your "system" in detail. But I did notice something about changing sides whenever one side gets a natural? All I'll say is that a massive run started for me with a natural nine followed by natural eight and something "clicked" in my head that told me to place table max on the next hand (I was already ahead a lot for the trip at the time). The run continued massively side by side with only one intervening hand of the other side. So, if I followed your "rule" of switch sides every time a natural lands I WOULD HAVE LEFT THAT SESSION AND TRIP 400K POORER

You can't make mechanical rules for what to do in Baccarat. You must simply hope for runs or patterns, and follow them, pressing into each successive win. Then - just as important - get up and leave after a good run has taken you far ahead. Take advantage of the positive variance or whatever you want to call it, and then get up.

Some shoes present great runs and discernible patterns, some do not. Over time you learn to cut back on your bet or just leave when the shoe presents nothing worth following."

[redietz]

It's amazing. Back in my youth, this is exactly how I picked up women.

"You can't make mechanical rules for what to do in getting laid. You must simply hope for runs or patterns or weakness, and follow them, pressing into each successive 'Yes.' Then -- just as important -- get up and leave after a good one. Take advantage of the positive dalliance or whatever you want to call it, and then get up.

Some present great runs and discernible patterns, some do not. Over time you learn to cut back on your investment or just leave when there's nothing worth following."

And I'll add, and I'm surprised MDAwg didn't, "FOR BAILING OUT FAST, YOU NEED TO START ON TOP. ALWAYS DICTATE POSITION AND PACE."

What can I say? Great minds think alike.

[MDawg]

Yes that was one trip where I cleared more than 400K actually, where there was a massive run on one side followed by a single on the other side followed by another massive run on the same side never seen anything quite like it again.

But no, that run (in general) has nothing to do with how I win over time, but you'd have to have been brain dead to not have made a ton of money on that shoe. Would be the equivalent of winning almost every hand at blackjack in a session, which, has happened to me before too.
You will recall in the Wizard witnessed session there was only ONE run the entire shoe, AND YET I hit every hand in that run:

I didn’t just catch some of the winning hands in that 8 Player run – I caught every single one, losing only on the 9th bet, when it switched to Bank. I do this all the time, catch runs, and press into them.

How he do dat?

"I didn't read your "system" in detail. But I did notice something about changing sides whenever one side gets a natural? " - no I never said anything like that, I may have pointed out that some people play like that.

Look, Half Smoke, let's face it. You're an all washed up overweight alcoholic trying to limit his drinks to Saturdays only. Am I allowed to state the truth without offending you? I respect that you're trying to understand things beyond your ken, but it's not working out well for you. Rather than spending your time commenting on The Great MDawg (a pastime UNKewlJ has devoted his life to), you would do better to go on a diet and stop drinking entirely. Those are friend suggestions, meant in a positive way.

The way I play Bacc is that sometimes, not always, I know what the first card out the shoe will be. I've described that only in more recent years, but it has been that way for some time even if I have not said so outright. Nor have I described how or why I have that knowledge, or what setup allows me to play that way. It also helps to have a memory that allows one to know every card that has been played, and what remains, and what that might mean - and this applies to both Bacc and BlackJack.


All right I just got back in from a swim in the waters of Miami beach.

You should try it sometime soon.

[Half Smoke]

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I am overweight, I admit - about 15 pounds - trying to lose it - but an alcoholic_______?_______never even remotely close_________there was a period when I had 2 drinks on each day of the weekend - that's over - but again, never anywhere near being an alcy - but if you wanna believe that or post that - I don't care - who cares_____?

as far as misquoting you - the link has exactly what you posted - which is exactly what I copied and pasted - your post is 5 up from the bottom of the page


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I would have guessed that after you won about $275K the house would stop dealing to you - that they would figure out that you can easily beat them - but I guess they're just not that sharp


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https://www.gamblingforums.com/threa...oll-win.18860/


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[MDawg]

The quote from me I didn't read your "system" in detail. But I did notice something about changing sides whenever one side gets a natural? was referring to what someone said, and was referring to that person's "system" which I put in quotes by way of emphasizing that it was silly.

- no I never said anything like that, I may have pointed out that some people play like that.

[Half Smoke]

The quote from me I didn't read your "system" in detail. But I did notice something about changing sides whenever one side gets a natural? was referring to what someone said, and was referring to that person's "system" which I put in quotes by way of emphasizing that it was silly.

- no I never said anything like that, I may have pointed out that some people play like that.

in my op i have the word "system" in quotes also -

again, my quote of you was exactly what you posted

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[MDawg]

Come on you can't be that dense. The point of your whole thread was implying that I played that way, when all I was doing was questioning why someone would play that way.

What is not included in your "analysis" is WHY I knew or at least knew to a good degree what was happening on the next hand. You'd need to know more about how and why I play and ALSO have a mind like mine which has total recall, to begin to understand all that. That post was from some time ago, before I felt okay with disclosing a bit more about how I play, or why I play the way I do.

The lack of any kind of decent brain is part of why UNKewlJ is good only for cheap street hustles, and could never be any kind of "math" guy.

[Half Smoke]

Come on you can't be that dense. The point of your whole thread was implying that I played that way, when all I was doing was questioning why someone would play that way.

no I'm not that dense

anyone with an 8th grade education can easily see that you are refuting his way of playing and then showing your preferred way of playing

I in no way implied that you play that way

but you implied that I misquoted you or twisted your words somehow - not true

one more time - I copied and pasted EXACTLY what you posted

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[kewlJ]

You know how Dan Druff says there is something missing or incomplete about Mdawgs claim? Here is what continues to be missing: It doesn't matter what he is doing (or pretending to do) that might allow him to win, doesn't matter if it is some sort of hole-carding the first round, or rainman type total recall, or even if he is just the luckiest person on the face of the world. Playing rated as he claims, to get all the comps he claims, there is a record of his play that casino people WILL review. And they will not just allow a player to sit there and win (whatever they are doing), day after day, like Mdawg claims. THAT has always been the missing piece, that he can't and won't explain.

For some reason this guy wants to write a story where not just the people reading the story are impressed, but everyone, everywhere is impressed that he is the greatest gambler ever. Right down to the casino pit people that would lose their jobs, if this were true. THAT continues to be just one of the pierces that don't work for this fiction story.

There is a reason why AP table game players play unrated, and move around a lot, playing short sessions and a number of other things we do. You just can't sit there, playing rated, and win over and over and over, with a record of your play right there and expect no one to say or do anything about it. THAT is just fantasy!! It is a guy writing a story.

There are two distinct parts to table game advantage play. The first is doing something that flips the advantage from casino to player. The second is to play in a manor or find ways to be able to continue to play and be welcome to play. It is that second piece that has ALWAYS been missing from Mdawg's story. Every real winning player recognises this and that is why almost every real winning player has at one time or another challenged these claims and this story. It just doesn't fly.

[Rob.Singer]

You knew this thread--actually, ANY thread--that implies mdawg wins was gonna strike a nerve in the perpetually nervous and envious kew. And there he is again, making believe he knows all about how high limit table play operates, when all he really is is just another one of your local bj addicts who plays red and green chips on a good day, while losing even more on lower level vp which generates his self-valued comps allowing him to pretend he's a winning "AP".

Watch for the oft-repeated & concocted-only-in-kew's mind lie about mdawg admitting to wizard to "breaking even" for a year instead of being a big winner.

[redietz]

I feel obligated to poke a hole in kewlJ's critique. The hole may not apply, since nothing I'm about to say has been mentioned by MDawg, but I'll give it a go.

Much like sons of sheiks betting outrageous amounts on teams because of a color or a mascot symbol (and it being tolerated because limits are ignored), sometimes it's a matter of context. For example, IF Mdawg's wife or extended family routinely blew large chunks on shopping or entertainment or events at certain casinos (say 30K or 40K a shot, which is plausible if not likely on a consistent basis), then a casino might very well tolerate damned near anything somebody does at the tables. If what's being won at the tables is dwarfed by what's spent elsewhere, or if family connections bleed into the social circles of upper management, then it's possible almost anything would be tolerated at the tables. It's all about context.

This is, for better or worse, the way the world works. With a bottom line and a wink/wink. In fact, if MDawg were a conduit for other, perhaps larger, players, there is no telling what would be tolerated. He could, in essence, be a "super-shill." Someone whose recommendations bring in other players. No law against it.

Ahhhh, some bright souls are suddenly considering what I just wrote as both obvious and possible.

LOL. That's why they pay me the big money.

[coach belly]

there is no telling what would be tolerated.

After cutting through the bullshit, this represents the operative condition...tewlj's uninformed opinion notwithstanding.

The check is in the mail, I already had your address.

[jdog]

If what's being won at the tables is dwarfed by what's spent elsewhere, or if family connections bleed into the social circles of upper management, then it's possible almost anything would be tolerated at the tables.
if MDawg were a conduit for other, perhaps larger, players, there is no telling what would be tolerated.

And that math DOES make sense but kewl cannot seem to grasp certain things, especially that anyone could have talents he does not possess. I also do think it's possible that there could be a very small number of people who can remember every card that comes out of the deck and, of course an advantage would be had by this. Does the dawg have this ability? I'll never know, but I really don't care one way or another, which is again another trait kewl does not possess.

[kewlJ]

IF Mdawg's wife or extended family routinely blew large chunks on shopping or entertainment or events at certain casinos (say 30K or 40K a shot, which is plausible if not likely on a consistent basis), then a casino might very well tolerate damned near anything somebody does at the tables.

It has been discussed Red. Not exactly in this context, but more the context of a much larger losing player with, or associated with Mdawg, then the casino might tolerate some winning and playing with an advantage from him. The problem with all that, is THAT is just NOT what he claims.

[MisterV]

Yes Red, there is "no law against it" but then again there is zero proof of the theory either.

Just like there is zero proof of his claim that Half Smoke and I are alcoholics (I haven't drank in over 25 years, HS says he doesn't drink much at all).

No, the post Half Smoke referenced is just more of the TRUE FICTION that the hound likes to spew out his ass: sort of like Tasha's "Axl Rose" tale yet much funnier and much more unlikely.

Think of the hound as the forum's trained bear performing for our amusement.




Oh, instead of the woods this particular bear does his "business" on this forum.

Ewwww....nasty...

[Keystone]

If what's being won at the tables is dwarfed by what's spent elsewhere, or if family connections bleed into the social circles of upper management, then it's possible almost anything would be tolerated at the tables.
if MDawg were a conduit for other, perhaps larger, players, there is no telling what would be tolerated.

And that math DOES make sense but kewl cannot seem to grasp certain things, especially that anyone could have talents he does not possess. I also do think it's possible that there could be a very small number of people who can remember every card that comes out of the deck and, of course an advantage would be had by this. Does the dawg have this ability? I'll never know, but I really don't care one way or another, which is again another trait kewl does not possess.

Anything is possible, but it`s hard to imagine an uneducated boob like MDork being one of these people. Everything about the way he writes and forms sentences suggest he is a low IQ`d dumbfuck

[Rob.Singer]

Just cut thru all the BS. If it doesn't fit the narrative that kew wants it to be, then it is up to every one of us to learn to see it his way. He can't sleep well at night as it is. Why agitate him even further by not allowing him to convince us that the casinos only operate within his limited world view?

[MDawg]

The proof is in the pudding that when witnessed I played and won exactly the way I have claimed all along. I won and pressed into every hand in the only run on that entire shoe when I won the DarkOz Challenge wager as witnessed and verified by the Wizard. How’d MDawg do dat?

I collected two grand pursuant to accepting and winning that wager. The perennially UNKewl one has turned down countless opportunities no legitimate person would have declined.

UNKewlJ can't post what he doesn't have. Which includes about everything he has ever talked about other than some red or green chips.

Rob, let’s face it if one thing is certain it’s that UNKewlJ’s life expectancy is being reduced every time he whines softly and his bum ticker as others have described it fibrillates over anything that doesn’t jibe with his tunnel vision.

And THAT I am sure, is music to your ears.

[MDawg]

If what's being won at the tables is dwarfed by what's spent elsewhere, or if family connections bleed into the social circles of upper management, then it's possible almost anything would be tolerated at the tables.
if MDawg were a conduit for other, perhaps larger, players, there is no telling what would be tolerated.

And that math DOES make sense but kewl cannot seem to grasp certain things, especially that anyone could have talents he does not possess. I also do think it's possible that there could be a very small number of people who can remember every card that comes out of the deck and, of course an advantage would be had by this. Does the dawg have this ability? I'll never know, but I really don't care one way or another, which is again another trait kewl does not possess.

Anything is possible, but it`s hard to imagine an uneducated boob like KeyStone being one of these people. Everything about the way he writes and forms sentences suggest he is a low IQ`d dumbfuck

By the way - (about the way he writes and forms sentences) is the prepositional phrase that modifies the subject Everything - which in this case acts as singular. So the correct form of the verb in that sentence would be suggests. Not suggest.

As a simple grammar lesson for the brilliant keystone writer - remove the modifiers then conjugate the verb to match the subject not its modifiers.

And what word is IQ’d supposed to be? and how does it fit into the sentence?

[Rob.Singer]

This thread has gone down a very familiar path. A discussion about mdawg's approach to winning, kew cutting in to whine and lie in yet another feeble effort to make it all about him, kew once again gets shredded for his lack of intelligence and of course lies, MrV steps in with another feeble attempt laced with lies to denigrate mdawg's success and his participation in the systematic taking down of the mealey-mouthed twit, and all the while everyone with spare time comments on what a loser kew is.

It's a beautiful thing!