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  1. #1
    I gotta give my better half and her competitors in LineMasters a shout-out.

    She led for the majority of the competition thus far, but not the last two weeks. The top three are killing it, and there are only about 50 people in the private contest.

    So after yesterday, she is 41-19 ATS, which is 68.3%. And in terms of units, which is how LineMasters is graded, she is 144-56, which is 68.5%. And she may or may not be leading come Tuesday! For those who have actually competed in these kinds of things, that is unbelievable. The top three have been steamrolling.

    They won't be able to maintain this pace, as the final week will be all NFL, so six games and 21 units must be assigned from one week of the NFL schedule, but I salute them. I have never seen a small private competition with these records at this stage of the year. The closest I've ever seen was about 12 years ago. I went 66-34 in a competition sponsored by a monitor associated with Playbook. It was invitation-only, and there were fewer than 40 people in it. That 66-34 ATS did not win! Frankly, it wasn't really that close to winning. A guy playing mainly Mountain West and WAC college totals annihilated the line -- beat me by about three games, which is fantastic. That was the year I won 17 consecutive ATS games, which I discovered is as rare in actuarial tables as "Death by Reptile." But not good enough. The scary thing was that without those 17 in a row, I was 49-34, which is a fine record to be proud of. I won 17 in a row on top of it, and in a field of 40-some I did not win, or even really come close to winning.
    Last edited by redietz; 11-10-2024 at 06:26 AM.

  2. #2
    60-0 is possible.
    I believe it.

  3. #3
    After falling into second place, Karen pulled off that 5-1 games/20-1 units week to take first place again. The top three are killing it. They are 41-19 games and two people 38-22. When I get some time, I will try to do an overall tally of the entire group.

  4. #4
    Heading into the final week of LineMasters, Karen is in second place. Top four cash. Anything can happen, but if normalcy occurs, she'll finish second. There is a significant point gap (six) between her and first and between her and third.

    She had won this contest three out of the six prior years she entered, which is nigh impossible.

    I still need to do an overall ATS tally for the sum total of participants.

  5. #5
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Heading into the final week of LineMasters, Karen is in second place. Top four cash. Anything can happen, but if normalcy occurs, she'll finish second. There is a significant point gap (six) between her and first and between her and third.

    She had won this contest three out of the six prior years she entered, which is nigh impossible.

    I still need to do an overall ATS tally for the sum total of participants.
    Karen sounds like a real good sports handicapper. the big question though: Is she able to pay her taxes?

    Maybe she could lend you money to pay yours Red.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  6. #6
    Coming from the dude back from the dead. LOL. Give it a rest, man. No, no wait. Let me ask you -- do the dead pay taxes? Was that a brilliant stratagem on your part to avoid taxes? If you die and come back from the dead, can you still claim yourself? Can you claim yourself twice? Can the dead version of you be a dependent? How about the live version? Can you claim that you're fraternal twins?

    If you're anonymous and dead and come back from the dead, does that make you anony-dead. Or did you get yourself a gravestone?

    I can see you're a master of "APing." You probably deducted yourself twice the year you came back from the dead.

    I could go on forever, but there is a football game tonight. KewlJs will watch it. They probably each bet a side. The trick is to figure out which side is "live."

  7. #7
    Wrap up. Ms. T finished in second place, 52-32 ATS. Worst week was a 2-4. Every other week was 3-3 or better. The winner was 54-30 ATS, stunning considering he took all NFL games. Third place was 48-36. Fourth place was also 52-32, but lost many stronger-rated games, so overall units placed him fourth.

    Ms. T won the competition three of the seven years in which she competed, and finished second in this, her seventh year. She has the best cumulative ATS record, obviously, for those seven years.

    Skill, ability, and judgement still count. Good to know.

  8. #8
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Wrap up. Ms. T finished in second place, 52-32 ATS. Worst week was a 2-4. Every other week was 3-3 or better. The winner was 54-30 ATS, stunning considering he took all NFL games. Third place was 48-36. Fourth place was also 52-32, but lost many stronger-rated games, so overall units placed him fourth.

    Ms. T won the competition three of the seven years in which she competed, and finished second in this, her seventh year. She has the best cumulative ATS record, obviously, for those seven years.

    Skill, ability, and judgement still count. Good to know.
    What was your record in the contest?
    Challenge to redietz. We bet every NFL regular season game. You make the picks. If you lay the fav I get 2 extra points. If you take the dog I get a 2 point discount. Easy pickings for you.

  9. #9
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Wrap up. Ms. T finished in second place, 52-32 ATS. Worst week was a 2-4. Every other week was 3-3 or better. The winner was 54-30 ATS, stunning considering he took all NFL games. Third place was 48-36. Fourth place was also 52-32, but lost many stronger-rated games, so overall units placed him fourth.

    Ms. T won the competition three of the seven years in which she competed, and finished second in this, her seventh year. She has the best cumulative ATS record, obviously, for those seven years.

    Skill, ability, and judgement still count. Good to know.
    What was your record in the contest?

    Whatever you want it to be, mickey. I'm generous like that.

    Why do you have to muck up a perfectly straight-laced reporting of reality with nonsensical posting? Somebody does something really well, bordering on great, and your response is this? What is wrong with you? You need to be the center of attention?

    Buy a better car and get some gold pinstripes for the scooter.

    Unlike some "APs," I report reality. Had I been in the contest, I would have reported the results. I'm more than happy to report results. Here's a bit of precognition for you. You know that YouWager promo I mentioned in a previous post? You know, you get the Monday Night game exactly right, you split 10K with anyone else.

    Guess who chose 27-20 as the final score this past week? LOL. That would be me. Did I post about it? No, because it's a freakish thing. I even mentioned the promo in posts because I don't care if other people take a crack at it. I know, not an "AP" thing to do.
    Last edited by redietz; 12-10-2024 at 08:35 PM.

  10. #10
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Wrap up. Ms. T finished in second place, 52-32 ATS. Worst week was a 2-4. Every other week was 3-3 or better. The winner was 54-30 ATS, stunning considering he took all NFL games. Third place was 48-36. Fourth place was also 52-32, but lost many stronger-rated games, so overall units placed him fourth.

    Ms. T won the competition three of the seven years in which she competed, and finished second in this, her seventh year. She has the best cumulative ATS record, obviously, for those seven years.

    Skill, ability, and judgement still count. Good to know.
    What was your record in the contest?

    Whatever you want it to be, mickey. I'm generous like that.

    Why do you have to muck up a perfectly straight-laced reporting of reality with nonsensical posting? Somebody does something really well, bordering on great, and your response is this? What is wrong with you? You need to be the center of attention?

    Buy a better car and get some gold pinstripes for the scooter.

    Unlike some "APs," I report reality. Had I been in the contest, I would have reported the results. I'm more than happy to report results. Here's a bit of precognition for you. You know that YouWager promo I mentioned in a previous post? You know, you get the Monday Night game exactly right, you split 10K with anyone else.

    Guess who chose 27-20 as the final score this past week? LOL. That would be me. Did I post about it? No, because it's a freakish thing. I even mentioned the promo in posts because I don't care if other people take a crack at it. I know, not an "AP" thing to do.
    This from the guy that trolls members here relentlessly. Lay off the LSD

    You bombed out of the contest early.
    Challenge to redietz. We bet every NFL regular season game. You make the picks. If you lay the fav I get 2 extra points. If you take the dog I get a 2 point discount. Easy pickings for you.

  11. #11
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post

    What was your record in the contest?

    Whatever you want it to be, mickey. I'm generous like that.

    Why do you have to muck up a perfectly straight-laced reporting of reality with nonsensical posting? Somebody does something really well, bordering on great, and your response is this? What is wrong with you? You need to be the center of attention?

    Buy a better car and get some gold pinstripes for the scooter.

    Unlike some "APs," I report reality. Had I been in the contest, I would have reported the results. I'm more than happy to report results. Here's a bit of precognition for you. You know that YouWager promo I mentioned in a previous post? You know, you get the Monday Night game exactly right, you split 10K with anyone else.

    Guess who chose 27-20 as the final score this past week? LOL. That would be me. Did I post about it? No, because it's a freakish thing. I even mentioned the promo in posts because I don't care if other people take a crack at it. I know, not an "AP" thing to do.
    This from the guy that trolls members here relentlessly. Lay off the LSD

    You bombed out of the contest early.

    That must be it. You're a knowledgeable dude, mickey crimm.

    One other thing. Telling people they are wrong when they are wrong may, in today's delicate parlance, be considered trolling. But what it is actually doing is educating.

    On the other hand, it must be great to go through life thinking you conquered all aspects of gambling. Talk about an LSD trip. I'll have to try that "I win at everything" self-affirmation sometime. Maybe the second Wednesday of every month.
    Last edited by redietz; 12-11-2024 at 06:21 AM.

  12. #12
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post


    Whatever you want it to be, mickey. I'm generous like that.

    Why do you have to muck up a perfectly straight-laced reporting of reality with nonsensical posting? Somebody does something really well, bordering on great, and your response is this? What is wrong with you? You need to be the center of attention?

    Buy a better car and get some gold pinstripes for the scooter.

    Unlike some "APs," I report reality. Had I been in the contest, I would have reported the results. I'm more than happy to report results. Here's a bit of precognition for you. You know that YouWager promo I mentioned in a previous post? You know, you get the Monday Night game exactly right, you split 10K with anyone else.

    Guess who chose 27-20 as the final score this past week? LOL. That would be me. Did I post about it? No, because it's a freakish thing. I even mentioned the promo in posts because I don't care if other people take a crack at it. I know, not an "AP" thing to do.
    This from the guy that trolls members here relentlessly. Lay off the LSD

    You bombed out of the contest early.

    That must be it. You're a knowledgeable dude, mickey crimm.

    One other thing. Telling people they are wrong when they are wrong may, in today's delicate parlance, be considered trolling. But what it is actually doing is educating.

    On the other hand, it must be great to go through life thinking you conquered all aspects of gambling. Talk about an LSD trip. I'll have to try that "I win at everything" self-affirmation sometime. Maybe the second Wednesday of every month.
    Will you name the person here that says they win at everything? Give us the quote. Or are you just trolling?
    Challenge to redietz. We bet every NFL regular season game. You make the picks. If you lay the fav I get 2 extra points. If you take the dog I get a 2 point discount. Easy pickings for you.

  13. #13
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post

    Will you name the person here that says they win at everything? Give us the quote. Or are you just trolling?
    Well certainly there are a couple guys on this forum that claim they win at everything. Mdawg and your buddy Singer. BUT that is not what Redietz is talking about. He is referring to advantage players that find something to do at an advantage and win more than they lose in the long run.

    It is funny....Mr I spent 100 days a year in Las Vegas for 40 years, used to say he understood how Vegas worked, including advantage play. I even remember him talking about having done some card counting.

    But low and behold those same advantage players find something to do at an advantage involving sports betting, and all of the sudden Mr Know it all, doesn't think it possible. Note to redietz: You do something at an advantage and do it with enough trials and you will win long-term. Stop being so fucking dumb.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  14. #14
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post

    Will you name the person here that says they win at everything? Give us the quote. Or are you just trolling?
    Well certainly there are a couple guys on this forum that claim they win at everything. Mdawg and your buddy Singer. BUT that is not what Redietz is talking about. He is referring to advantage players that find something to do at an advantage and win more than they lose in the long run.

    It is funny....Mr I spent 100 days a year in Las Vegas for 40 years, used to say he understood how Vegas worked, including advantage play. I even remember him talking about having done some card counting.

    But low and behold those same advantage players find something to do at an advantage involving sports betting, and all of the sudden Mr Know it all, doesn't think it possible. Note to redietz: You do something at an advantage and do it with enough trials and you will win long-term. Stop being so fucking dumb.
    That would be me. Inexperienced compared to the kewljs. Undoubtedly lower IQ than the kewljs. Probably didn't have the SAT scores of the kewljs (tough to get into Villanova, after all). Or maybe not.

    Note: I think, for readers, it's important to separate, as I have done a dozen times on this site, those "APs" who restrict themselves to arbitrage, middles shooting, and acquiring bonuses without using other people, and keep them separate from those "APs" who claim other things. The arbitrage, middles-shooting and one-bonus-per-person stuff are legitimate profitable enterprises, if you work 24/7 at them. What I'm criticizing are the idjits who recruit to go wild on bonus sign-ups, ruining it in the long term for those who don't do that kind of thing, and who somehow think they will fly under the radar (until they get their accounts frozen). I'm also talking about the maroons applying the probability of random events to non-random events as if that's a way to make money. I'm also talking about people who think (arbitrage and middles-shooting aside) that "sports betting" is an actual thing -- kind of like answering the question of "What do you do?" with "I'm a coach." Yeah, and what do you coach? "I coach everything."

    There is nothing dumber than an alleged professional gambler applying the probability of random events to non-random events and relying on "enough trials." What the hell? Use those Villanova credits, baby. Please don't tell me you didn't take probability courses at Villanova.

    And yeah, I don't believe kewlJ spent any time at Villanova, other then maybe the occasional foray to a cafeteria. He picked a college where he lived to write about but hasn't mentioned any coursework. How likely is that? Given kewlj's attempts at some detail-oriented tales, this lack of any detail is a big red flag.
    Last edited by redietz; 12-13-2024 at 06:24 AM.

  15. #15
    The second someone starts talking about I Q scores, credit scores or Sat from 50 years ago, I write them off as a narcissist in need of a pissing contest. What college you attend as part of such a desired pissing contest is retarded. It really shows ones insecurities. Red shows his insecurities just about every day he posts.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  16. #16
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    The second someone starts talking about I Q scores, credit scores or Sat from 50 years ago, I write them off as a narcissist in need of a pissing contest. What college you attend as part of such a desired pissing contest is retarded. It really shows ones insecurities. Red shows his insecurities just about every day he posts.
    Just for fun, I took a look at a list of the rankings for each university. Using Forbes ranking. Hope that is respectable enough. Here are the Pa university rankings.

    #7 Penn. (no surprise)
    #27 Swarthmore (I knew they are pretty respected, but a bit surprised)
    #58 Carnegie-Mellon
    #60 Lafayette
    #64 Lehigh (cute campus. drive by when I visit Sands/windcreek casino)
    #72 Haverford College
    #87 Villanova (not even tops on the Main Line)
    #93 Bucknell

    2nd hundred

    #146 Drexel
    #192 Temple
    #196 Penn State

    Penn State is behind Temple. Not to fear Red, Penn State beat out Gettysburg College, Susquehanna University and LaSalle. Now tell us how you have lunch and used to play Raquetball with professors from Penn.

    I have seen other lists where Penn State was top 5. Party Schools I think it was.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  17. #17
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    The second someone starts talking about I Q scores, credit scores or Sat from 50 years ago, I write them off as a narcissist in need of a pissing contest. What college you attend as part of such a desired pissing contest is retarded. It really shows ones insecurities. Red shows his insecurities just about every day he posts.
    Just for fun, I took a look at a list of the rankings for each university. Using Forbes ranking. Hope that is respectable enough. Here are the Pa university rankings.

    #7 Penn. (no surprise)
    #27 Swarthmore (I knew they are pretty respected, but a bit surprised)
    #58 Carnegie-Mellon
    #60 Lafayette
    #64 Lehigh (cute campus. drive by when I visit Sands/windcreek casino)
    #72 Haverford College
    #87 Villanova (not even tops on the Main Line)
    #93 Bucknell

    2nd hundred

    #146 Drexel
    #192 Temple
    #196 Penn State

    Penn State is behind Temple. Not to fear Red, Penn State beat out Gettysburg College, Susquehanna University and LaSalle. Now tell us how you have lunch and used to play Raquetball with professors from Penn.

    I have seen other lists where Penn State was top 5. Party Schools I think it was.

    When Playboy Magazine ranked party schools back in the 70's, Penn State was not allowed in the rankings because it was supposed to be an amateur listing, and Penn State was considered professional.

    Having said that, it's pretty clear kewlJs have no blessed idea what they are talking about. Forbes ranking schools -- based on what? Have you looked at SAT entrance requirements for the schools? No, of course not, because then the kewlJs would have to discuss entrance requirements and SAT scores, and the kewlJs don't know anything about either.

    Penn State is top notch in engineering, business, and agriculture. Also not bad in meteorology and sports science. Good, but not necessarily great, psych and anthropology programs. Just okay compared to other Big 10 schools in most other majors. I'm sure the entrance requirements are comparable to Michigan or Ohio State. Probably better than Indiana and Wisconsin.

    Much cheaper than Villanova.

    You realize you just exposed yourself as having no idea what you're talking about? Anybody who shopped and chose college educations in Pennsylvania knows this stuff off the top of their head.

    I hope people reading this get the gist. As with blackjack, what the kewlJs actually wrote here is straight out of a book or website, as opposed to having some natural knowledge from living in Pennsylvania, choosing a college in Pennsylvania, or actually going to one of those colleges. I personally see the limitations of what he writes much more clearly with this topic than with blackjack. I'm sure the criticisms of him vis-a-vis blackjack, which have been made by multiple forum members here, ring true. He appears to try to write about real-life experiences, but absent real-life details. Alarm bells should be ringing all the time.

    The gazillion dollar question is, "Why does he do this?" Why does he fake all this shit?
    Last edited by redietz; 12-13-2024 at 10:27 PM.

  18. #18
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Much cheaper than Villanova.

    You realize you just exposed yourself as having no idea what you're talking about? Anybody who shopped and chose college educations in Pennsylvania knows this stuff off the top of their head.
    EXCEPT YOU are making shit up Red. Please link to where I ever said anything about shopping around for college educations in Pennsylvania. I wasn't actually THAT interested in college at that time. I picked Nova and attended because it was very important to my grandfather. I had scholarship money from my father's passing that I could have gone somewhere else on a totally free ride. In the end, the very reason I chose and went to Nova was also the reason I stopped going partway through. My grandfather making up the difference.

    It sounds like you are jealous that I had a free ride and didn't take as much advantage of it as I could, maybe should have. But frankly, THAT is none of your business, Red. Don't be jealous. Penn State is a fine little school. Well except for the child molestation shit that went on for 30 years and the legendary football coach knew about and turned a blind eye too. THAT is not your fault though. Wear you Blue proudly Red. (<- see what I did there?
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  19. #19
    Originally Posted by MDawg
    FOUR versions of the lie:

    1) Never went to college, never got his degree

    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I didn't have the opportunity to go to college
    "I have done fine making money without a college degree."



    "I have been pretty open about my education and not having the chance to go to college"



    "You haters like to call me uneducated because I didn't have the opportunity to go to college as I had planned. " (And, like the lying chameleon that he is, trying hard to put himself in the company of people who also never graduated college, but did well.)



    2) Went to college and graduated

    "I graduated college in 2014 and moved to Las Vegas and moved in with my brother. "



    3) Went to Villanova but attended only 1 year, no degree

    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    But I did well enough to have been accepted at a private catholic university on Philadelphia's exclusive mainline. I only attended for one year.
    4) Went to Villanova attended 3 years, dropped out, got his degree online





    Bottom line is this pathological liar can't even keep his lies straight. Again.
    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.

    MDawg Adventures carry on at: https://www.truepassage.com/forums/f.../46-IPlayVegas

  20. #20
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Much cheaper than Villanova.

    You realize you just exposed yourself as having no idea what you're talking about? Anybody who shopped and chose college educations in Pennsylvania knows this stuff off the top of their head.
    EXCEPT YOU are making shit up Red. Please link to where I ever said anything about shopping around for college educations in Pennsylvania. I wasn't actually THAT interested in college at that time. I picked Nova and attended because it was very important to my grandfather. I had scholarship money from my father's passing that I could have gone somewhere else on a totally free ride. In the end, the very reason I chose and went to Nova was also the reason I stopped going partway through. My grandfather making up the difference.

    It sounds like you are jealous that I had a free ride and didn't take as much advantage of it as I could, maybe should have. But frankly, THAT is none of your business, Red. Don't be jealous. Penn State is a fine little school. Well except for the child molestation shit that went on for 30 years and the legendary football coach knew about and turned a blind eye too. THAT is not your fault though. Wear you Blue proudly Red. (<- see what I did there?

    You are truly bizarre if you think I'm cheerleading for Penn State. Gambling-wise, I probably bet AGAINST them twice as often as I bet ON them. I'm just stating facts about the school and highlighting about how your superficial Villanova stuff doesn't even come close to passing muster.

    Nobody is buying your narratives. You're not even close to being believable with the Villanova spiel. I'm doing you a (big) favor by pointing these things out.

    Why do you type all this nonsense?

    You had a free ride. LOL. Right. Did I mention that I was a National Merit Scholar? You might want to look that shit up. May as well while you're researching Villanova.

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