Volunteering for MDawg

[redietz]

I haven't read all the responses, but certainly we have an enthusiastic crowd. Will try to catch up mid-week. I have a game tonight and am backlogged on stats analysis a week since one stat source was down last week.

You can root for, let me check what I have, Over 34 tonight. Don't think it'll be easy with the backup Dallas QB, but that's why it's a bit of a bargain.

[MDawg]

REDietz and I have always treated each other with respect so this might work.

REDietz seems to be proposing filming, and bringing in outsiders to help him analyze numbers. If I am going to blow anonymity I'd do that for some kind of heavily paid streaming service, as I mentioned in the second post of this thread, not for something unpaid like this.

However, with the proper assurances of anonymity, I might be willing to deal with REDietz alone on this. REDietz won't mind if a member or members of my entourage are there as well, I can trust all of them. As mentioned, will be in Vegas shortly for at least two weeks.

[kewlJ]

REDietz and I have always treated each other with respect so this might work.

REDietz seems to be proposing filming, and bringing in outsiders to help him analyze numbers. If I am going to blow anonymity I'd do that for some kind of heavily paid streaming service, as I mentioned in the second post of this thread.

However, with the proper assurances of anonymity, I might be willing to deal with REDietz alone on this. REDietz won't mind if a member or members of my entourage are there as well, I can trust all of them. As mentioned, will be in Vegas shortly for at least two weeks.

I am sure you won't answer and will only troll, but what do you need anonymity for? You claim you are not an AP. You don't hide from the casinos, but rather play rated and get every comp dollar and point due you by playing rated. You even claim the casino personnel know and love you. So what is the anonymity about?

The only people you appear to be hiding from and want anonymity from are members of the different forums, NOT the casinos (like real AP do). I am quite sure that is because without anonymity anyone on any forum could look into you and see you are not the winning player you claim.

BUT, I am willing to hear your explanation as to why you need anonymity. Maybe there is something I am missing.

[MDawg]

the bottom line is I just simply believe what MDawg has posted is more plausible in it's totality. Unlike you, I have the ability to understand that there are things I don't know that others possibly do. I also have enough knowledge to understand how winning play could be tolerated under an arrangement. Not to mention the only thing you've EVER stated that has been corroborated is that you post from an IP address within Vegas.

Also you are not too bright, but you genuinely believe you know everything about APing and casinos. A wise man knows there is much he doesn't know, but in you we have the unfortunate combination of being extremely self-righteous and unwise. For this I feel sorry for you.

But of course I'm just trolling you... and all the trolls deep down actually believe you, right? Total self-dilution. Have you ever considered you might be wrong about anything??

[kewlJ]

I take that trolling response to mean Mdawg couldn't answer a rather simple question. No surprise.

[MDawg]

I am willing to allow UNKewlJ to pick up this same wager. Will leave it open until the end of today. UNKewlJ may be broke but between his entire family maybe they can come up with enough to make the wager worth my while.

Obviously he won't to show his Asiatic face for the verification so we'd have to do it with Wizard as the verifier.

The problem is, UNKewlJ has no pots to piss in. Whereas I have all sorts and sizes and different shapes to piss in. So engaging with that irritant for a wager is apparently a waste of time. I tried to propose a simple bet where the only thing at stake was self banning from these forums, and he couldn't even pick that up.

So, let's say I bet...something more substantial, with someone who evidently at least has some pots to piss in. With MisterV. V, I can come up with any figure we agree on, against, that:

any entire year you pick of my session results will be corroborated within shall we say 10% of what the casinos have reported. Obviously for a bet like that my providing WIN statements will not be enough, we'd have to go to Vegas together and ask for them together directly from the casinos. And obviously we are not going to do that for a mere pittance.

And I will add, to make it airtight, that if you determine that I have played at any casino other than the ones I have provided access to for WIN statements, that forfeits the entire bet in your favor. If you recall, I once bet AxelWolf six figures that he could not find a single casino at which I had played other than the ones reported in my WIN statements.

I'd want an NDA signed with a liquidated damages clause as to protecting my identity (and yours too, if you like), but obviously you will be free to post the results publicly, after you pay me for the wager.

But keep in mind before you decide on how much you're willing to lose that the WIN statements I posted were not pieces of paper, they were actual live video of me logged into my player accounts, navigating pages.

I'll leave this offer, like the UNKewl one he declined, on the table for 24 hours too. Let me know.

This is a serious wager for what appears to be a serious person.

[coach belly]

I required verifying directly with Singer's wife on the phone or via a zoom call that she would be in attendance.

That's what I wrote....

some such bullshit

[kewlJ]

You can root for, let me check what I have, Over 34 tonight. Don't think it'll be easy with the backup Dallas QB, but that's why it's a bit of a bargain.

What are you talking about Red? The over under line for this game is around 41, 41.5. Is this some kind of teaser or something?

First time in forever you throw out a pick before the game and the number doesn't jive. You are a funny dude Red.

[AxelWolf]

You can root for, let me check what I have, Over 34 tonight. Don't think it'll be easy with the backup Dallas QB, but that's why it's a bit of a bargain.

What are you talking about Red? The over under line for this game is around 41, 41.5. Is this some kind of teaser or something?

First time in forever you throw out a pick before the game and the number doesn't jive. You are a funny dude Red.

Yeah, I know right? I was like what the fuck I already took the over and I got a super bad line I guess. Then I started thinking, wait a minute something must be really off when's the last time I saw an over under an NFL at 34 points?

[AxelWolf]

You can root for, let me check what I have, Over 34 tonight. Don't think it'll be easy with the backup Dallas QB, but that's why it's a bit of a bargain.

What are you talking about Red? The over under line for this game is around 41, 41.5. Is this some kind of teaser or something?

First time in forever you throw out a pick before the game and the number doesn't jive. You are a funny dude Red.

This post is enough to convince me that you do bet football. Not that I ever doubted it in the first place but someone who doesn't bet football probably wouldn't even have caught that and responded like you did.

[kewlJ]

This post is enough to convince me that you do bet football. Not that I ever doubted it in the first place but someone who doesn't bet football probably wouldn't even have caught that and responded like you did.

Yes, I bet football. Yes I bet other sports. And yes I am/was a fan of most sports before I started betting with an advantage. And yes, I know and play blackjack.

Are you really just realizing these things? Sometimes you worry me boy.

And on a more serious note, I will tell you to your face. I don't like the advise you are giving Tasha. She is a gambling addict, who's gambling is severely effecting her life in a negative way. You shouldn't be advising her to gambler more, even at an advantage. I am sure you know it is pretty rare to turn a real problem gambler into an AP. Probably your intent was good. Your advise is NOT.

[MDawg]

If you "study up" long enough, eventually the contradictions come less hard upon each other.

[kewlJ]

If you "study up" long enough, eventually the contradictions come less hard upon each other.

Yeah, I have studied sports and blackjack AP for 20 years so I could fool a few people on an internet forum.

I guess I shouldn't laugh too hard, because that might be just what you have done. Except you really don't know AP concepts and THAT is what brings you down.

So I have always said "It doesn't take that much to figure out who knows what they are talking about and who is just talking". I guess what I didn't count on is some trolls and haters that know, but refuse to accept it. I didn't see that coming.

[The Boz]

You can root for, let me check what I have, Over 34 tonight. Don't think it'll be easy with the backup Dallas QB, but that's why it's a bit of a bargain.

What are you talking about Red? The over under line for this game is around 41, 41.5. Is this some kind of teaser or something?

First time in forever you throw out a pick before the game and the number doesn't jive. You are a funny dude Red.

For anyone who gave RED shit, this is part of being a successful sports bettor. Having accounts everywhere sometimes allows you to find opportunities like this. Sure you get screwed and the bet cancelled most times, but not always. RED took his shot and didn’t lose a thing. Posting it without context was RED just being RED.

[kewlJ]

Boz, Red offered a different explanation today in Monets smart money thread, where he claims the 34.5 was the second half of a teaser.

I don't care. I am not trying to catch him with anything. It was just surprising to see him mention 34.5 total on a game where the total was 41.5, with no further explanation. I even asked if it was part of a teaser.

It is all good. If he won, glad he won.

[The Boz]

Boz, Red offered a different explanation today in Monets smart money thread, where he claims the 34.5 was the second half of a teaser.

I don't care. I am not trying to catch him with anything. It was just surprising to see him mention 34.5 total on a game where the total was 41.5, with no further explanation. I even asked if it was part of a teaser.

It is all good. If he won, glad he won.

Didn’t see that, thanks. He is big into teasers, more than most.

[kewlJ]

So is this proposal by Red of witnessing and possibly filming 20-40 sessions of Mdawgs play now dead?

I assume Red is coming to town just after the Rodeo leaves which I think is Dec 14. That is the slow and least expensive period in Vegas every year. Can't we make this happen?

Soxfan opined that 20-40 session is not enough to show anything definitively. And he is right. That is too small a sample size to really prove anything. But I think we would see that he isn't winning 90% of his sessions like he has claimed for 5 years, unless he is playing a progressive system which could result in a lot of wins, but still not long-term winnings.

Will Redeitz be forced to sign a NDA, so he can't say if Mdawg plays a progression?

My guess is it will never happen, although I hope it does. Usually what happens is the party (mdawg) will make some demand involving a wager or payment, that he knows won't/can't be met, insuring it never happens.

[AxelWolf]

This post is enough to convince me that you do bet football. Not that I ever doubted it in the first place but someone who doesn't bet football probably wouldn't even have caught that and responded like you did.

Yes, I bet football. Yes I bet other sports. And yes I am/was a fan of most sports before I started betting with an advantage. And yes, I know and play blackjack.

Are you really just realizing these things? Sometimes you worry me boy.

And on a more serious note, I will tell you to your face. I don't like the advise you are giving Tasha. She is a gambling addict, who's gambling is severely effecting her life in a negative way. You shouldn't be advising her to gambler more, even at an advantage. I am sure you know it is pretty rare to turn a real problem gambler into an AP. Probably your intent was good. Your advise is NOT.

No, I said before that I believe you played blackjack and the knowledge that you had wouldn't be from somebody who wasn't actually playing. I was just reconfirming to those who doubt it now.

But if I am to be honest, I think you highly fudge on some of your stories, and I don't know why. It's beyond leaving things out or adding things to protect yourself. For example, there's no way that I believe that you got tens of thousands of dollars worth of sports bonuses with only a 5 times rollover. There's only one way I think that could be remotely possible, and that would be a stretch for it to only be five times, and if that's how you're doing it, you probably owe me some kickback. I take Bitcoin, hopefully it won't cost you $400 in overdraft fees.

[kewlJ]

This post is enough to convince me that you do bet football. Not that I ever doubted it in the first place but someone who doesn't bet football probably wouldn't even have caught that and responded like you did.

Yes, I bet football. Yes I bet other sports. And yes I am/was a fan of most sports before I started betting with an advantage. And yes, I know and play blackjack.

Are you really just realizing these things? Sometimes you worry me boy.

And on a more serious note, I will tell you to your face. I don't like the advise you are giving Tasha. She is a gambling addict, who's gambling is severely effecting her life in a negative way. You shouldn't be advising her to gambler more, even at an advantage. I am sure you know it is pretty rare to turn a real problem gambler into an AP. Probably your intent was good. Your advise is NOT.

No, I said before that I believe you played blackjack and the knowledge that you had wouldn't be from somebody who wasn't actually playing. I was just reconfirming to those who doubt it now.

But if I am to be honest, I think you highly fudge on some of your stories, and I don't know why. It's beyond leaving things out or adding things to protect yourself. For example, there's no way that I believe that you got tens of thousands of dollars worth of sports bonuses with only a 5 times rollover. There's only one way I think that could be remotely possible, and that would be a stretch for it to only be five times, and if that's how you're doing it, you probably owe me some kickback. I take Bitcoin, hopefully it won't cost you $400 in overdraft fees.

yeah good luck with getting that kickback.

You are misrepresenting the rollover. One of the 4 sportsbooks I used last September when I started the bonus chasing was 4x rollover. That was a book that I had used for years recreational betting and lost a good chunk of money as a recreational bettor. So I had a track record with them as a losing player and my "host" gave me a good rollover.

2 of the other 3 the rollover was 8 times I believe. So if you averaged them all together it might have been 6 times or so. I forget exact numbers. But a good low number that I could make money off of and did.

BUT the important part is that years of playing and losing at the one book is what lead to me getting a very good low rollover. I honestly don't know why you have such a hard time with that.

Now one of the original 4 books I used last year cut me off before the football season this year. When I say cut me off, they no longer offered me a decent bonus and rollover. So I replaced that book with 2 new ones for this football season. And now in the last couple weeks a second has stopped offering me the really good bonus and rollover. So I am wearing out my welcome.

If I am going to continue beyond this year, and I think I want to because the money is so good, I am going to have to find many more books, offering at least decent numbers and that I can trust to pay. And that is part of my problem. I haven't been at this long enough to know which ones I can trust (good reputations) and which to avoid.

[AxelWolf]

So is this proposal by Red of witnessing and possibly filming 20-40 sessions of Mdawgs play now dead?

I assume Red is coming to town just after the Rodeo leaves which I think is Dec 14. That is the slow and least expensive period in Vegas every year. Can't we make this happen?

Soxfan opined that 20-40 session is not enough to show anything definitively. And he is right. That is too small a sample size to really prove anything. But I think we would see that he isn't winning 90% of his sessions like he has claimed for 5 years, unless he is playing a progressive system which could result in a lot of wins, but still not long-term winnings.

Will Redeitz be forced to sign a NDA, so he can't say if Mdawg plays a progression?

My guess is it will never happen, although I hope it does. Usually what happens is the party (mdawg) will make some demand involving a wager or payment, that he knows won't/can't be met, insuring it never happens.

Unfortunately, people can be bought and or fooled. Whenever something like this is going on you need a proper skeptic looking for all the angles and someone who can spot possible shenanigans. You wouldn't need 20 to 40 sessions. Mdog claims to have a photographic memory, he gave an example of what he could do with a shoe of cards. That would be very simple and easy to prove or disprove. If he is lying about having that ability, then you wouldn't need to go any further.