VINDICATION for KJ

[MDawg]

UNKewlJ is doing the usual Mississippi Half Step Toodle-Oo over it talking out of both sides of his wide loose mouth.

Sorry UNKewlJ, you don't get to have it both ways. You ARE a male prostitute, who has been now confirmed as both Asiatic, and playing a little for cover.

[kewlJ]

Anyway, enough of this Mdawg doo. the cleaning lady is about done doing her thing and I am heading out to lunch.

[MDawg]

Oh we haven't heard the last of UNKewlJ's soft whining, if he had anything definitive to say, he would have said it by now.

Instead, thousands of words (and as usual) without saying a thing.

[MisterV]

He said a lot, hound: you're just too butt-hurt to acknowledge it and too deeply interwoven in your web of lies to admit it..

He's ripped you a new one for years here and on other sites: keep it up, KJ: good stuff.

[MDawg]

He spoke out of both sides of his wide loose mouth as always.

He knows that we got the truth privately which is why he’s afraid to say anything definitively.


Asiatic. Male prostitute. Playing a little for cover.

Just re-confirmed.

[AxelWolf]

I can't confirm anything about KJ 100%.
I think it's pretty obvious he knows enough about card counting whereas I believe he's a card counter. I haven't any idea what limits he plays or if he 100% supports himself solely on that, but to be honest I don't really care.
There have been some things that he said that make me take great pause and I just find them hard to believe.

[AxelWolf]

KJ I swear that you said multiple times that you weren't into hole carding and various other forms of Blackjack Advantage Play.
What were you doing with the well-known whole carding team?

[AxelWolf]

He spoke out of both sides of his wide loose mouth as always.

He knows that we got the truth privately which is why he’s afraid to say anything definitively.


Asiatic. Male prostitute. Playing a little for cover.

Just re-confirmed.

I'm still curious why such a successful person like yourself with so much going on in life feels the need to spread so much hate, especially among those people who are so much less fortunate than yourself? How do you even find the time? And you can't say it only just takes you a few minutes one can go back and see your responses and the timeline that you're responding and you're pretty much there for hours at a time responding back and forth throughout the day.

[MDawg]

Failing to pick up a wager like this - which I offered to V sometime ago, and to UNKewlJ today - that's definitive.

The problem is, UNKewlJ has no pots to piss in. Whereas I have all sorts and sizes and different shapes to piss in. So engaging with that irritant for a wager is apparently a waste of time. I tried to propose a simple bet where the only thing at stake was self banning from these forums, and he couldn't even pick that up.

So, let's say I bet...something more substantial, with someone who evidently at least has some pots to piss in. With MisterV. V, I can come up with any figure we agree on, against, that:

any entire year you pick of my session results will be corroborated within shall we say 10% of what the casinos have reported. Obviously for a bet like that my providing WIN statements will not be enough, we'd have to go to Vegas together and ask for them together directly from the casinos. And obviously we are not going to do that for a mere pittance.

And I will add, to make it airtight, that if you determine that I have played at any casino other than the ones I have provided access to for WIN statements, that forfeits the entire bet in your favor. If you recall, I once bet AxelWolf six figures that he could not find a single casino at which I had played other than the ones reported in my WIN statements.

I'd want an NDA signed with a liquidated damages clause as to protecting my identity (and yours too, if you like), but obviously you will be free to post the results publicly, after you pay me for the wager.

But keep in mind before you decide on how much you're willing to lose that the WIN statements I posted were not pieces of paper, they were actual live video of me logged into my player accounts, navigating pages.

I'll leave this offer, like the UNKewl one he declined, on the table for 24 hours too. Let me know.

This is a serious wager for what appears to be a serious person.

But coming in here and saying, ohhh maybe this guy did see me, maybe he didn't, but there are others who have never stepped forward who might have something to say, that's just talking out of both sides of your mouth.

And the REASON he's making with the doubletalk is he isn't sure who HunterHill is, and is worried that if the guy really did spot him, that the true story of that he's just a small time player making cover for male prostitution, would come out - which it already has!

It would be like my asking Wizard to be the witness at my gaming session, and then turning around and badmouthing him saying he's half blind.

[MisterV]

Of course I declined to accept your challenge: I do not do any such challenges or make bets with gambling forum members.

I gotta say though that the challenge you proffer is complicated and would take a lot of time and effort to complete: :c'mon counselor, there's a better, easier way and you know it.

Simply provide actual tax returns, with corroboration that they're real.

If in fact you win pretty much all the time and are not a losing gambler then voila', this "fact" should be evident on your return.

You'd probably itemize so just compare the gambling income reported on 1040 against the gambling losses reported on schedule C.

Piece of cake: if you won as you said then you'll have reported the profit and paid tax on it; if not, i.e. if you're just a loser then your losses will equal your wins with no profit and no tax due.

Oh, I am not challenging you to do this, I'm simply saying it would be easier and more definitive.

[MDawg]

Tax returns are going to include a lot of information on them not related to gaming that someone might not want disclosed in the context of a wager over gaming. Plus, you're a slots player where every win you book over a certain amount is reported to the government - table game wins aren't even reported to the government, so if someone didn't report a win or had deductions against the win that reduced it does that mean it didn't happen? And what is a tax return anyway? It could be fabricated.

What I describe above could not be faked.

Look, there was also the wager I presented UNKewlJ where SeedValue stepped up and volunteered to drop off a few hundred thousand dollars cash with Dan Druff to back it up
https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...oming-incident
- at that point when UNKewlJ waffled on even that it was obvious he was lying utterly about any "settlement" for that fictional backrooming incident.

Here we have a situation where some guy posts, yeah I saw UNKewlJ, and still UNKewlJ waffles about what it means - for obvious reasons I already mentioned, more than once, in this thread.

[jdog]

Typical page out of the kewl playbook. Refuses to corroborate anything, that way if anything surfaces he doesn't like he can just say: I never said I knew that guy.

[smurgerburger]

KJ I swear that you said multiple times that you weren't into hole carding and various other forms of Blackjack Advantage Play.
What were you doing with the well-known whole carding team?

I didn't see the reference to a hole-carding team but yes, he has said this, and also quite ludicrously declared his opinion that hole-carding is illegal.

Incidentally (or not) it's much harder to fake hole-carding experience than counting so I don't think we'll see that from him.

[coach belly]

I'm still curious why

Is that right, Mr. Curious...you are still curious?

You are a very curious little fella, aren't you.

But why are you so curious about that?

How do you find the time to spend worrying about how somebody else has enough time to do whatever they are doing?

You must not have a lot going on in your life.

Aren't there other more worthwhile things for you to always be so curious about?

[MDawg]

HunterHill might just be fucking with us - and by us I mean all of us, including UNKewlJ.

H.Hill already pulled the devious asshole move of disclosing the contents of a PM I sent him, without having the guts to state right out that MDawg is the one who PM'ed me. Maybe next thing you know he's going to try to clean that up, in Chapter 3 of this drama.

Chapter 2 was - that he went and disclosed some other shit privately that conflicts with his high and mighty stance he made in public (which is already suspect anyway, in that H.Hill plays the game of disclosing private messages).

[kewlJ]

KJ I swear that you said multiple times that you weren't into hole carding and various other forms of Blackjack Advantage Play.
What were you doing with the well-known whole carding team?

I did say multiple times that I don't care for hole-carding. Never said it is illegal (as someone else claimed). Never said I didn't do some of it, especially earlier in my career. As a matter of fact I have relayed a story of my first year or so in Vegas, following a specific dealer around (from Circus Circus). Getting up at 3am to hit his shifts. And I never said that was my first go round with hole carding. Not verifying or denying anything specific. Just not.

But again, I don't like to talk about anything I have done with other APs. I don't think that is my place to do so. If I decide to share something I have done solo, and I say the wrong thing, or say too much, I am only hurting myself. I try not talk about anything I have done teaming or partnering with others, although I did mention the play my brother and I did earlier this year.

I have at various times mentioned a number of things besides card counting though. Card counting was always the biggest part of what I have done since moving to Vegas, and now even that has changed.

[smurgerburger]

Do I really have to dig up where you said it was illegal?

[MDawg]

Oh we haven't heard the last of UNKewlJ's soft whining, if he had anything definitive to say, he would have said it by now.

Instead, thousands of words (and as usual) without saying a thing.

[kewlJ]

Do I really have to dig up where you said it was illegal?

Can't swear I didn't say something like that. I would have to see the context. But it is not illegal. How can it be? Unless the player is colluding with the dealer. That would be another story. Maybe cheating. You are getting info that you aren't supposed to have. But definitely not illegal. there is a difference.

I think I may have said "gray area", but that is not gray area of being illegal. It is gray are of my comfort level with the play. And why would I have such a strong opinion, if I hadn't done some of it?

Are you sure you are not confusing comments I made about the double up bug? I think that was illegal.

[MDawg]

This UNKewl post alone from 9/23/2022, contradicts directly HunterHill's claim that he saw UNKewlJ hole carding "working with a well known hole card team" before he even arrived in Vegas.

I even showed him one of our flashing dealers which we still destroy to this day!

Since, YOU brought up hole carding and flashing dealers, and playing against the same flashing dealers over and over. I have a question for you JBJB.

My experience with HCing is very limited. I did it one summer 2-3 years after I moved to Vegas. Even set my alarm for 3am so I could play one guys 4am-noon shift. Eventually decided I didn't care for that part of it. So anyway, I feel like certain plays are really going to make you stand out.

Besides the contradiction in the timeline, "working with a well known hole card team" sounds like it would have warranted something other than a disclaimer about having "very limited experience" with it, especially from someone with such a big mouth.