VINDICATION for KJ

[terapinedtheskeptic]

decorum

I see you added a post-script.

You must have read your original post back, and the word limp made you think of the WOV gang.

Nope
Limp is the exact word I would use to describe your replies including the last few.
I'm surprised I'm not getting the typical VCT uncensored treatment.
Come on, entertain the lurkers

[MisterV]

Terapined, you'll soon learn that coach belly isn't your "typical" troll; oh sure, he'll insult on occasion but mostly he likes to question the basis for your opinion and to find you lacking.

He'd have been the perfect judge at the Salem Witch Trials.

Not that he gives a shit about any of the issues here: like me he simply likes to stir the pot.

I'd say "he means well" but that would be a lie.

[coach belly]

I'd say "he means well" but that would be a lie.

I woke up to find out that I am the eyes of the world.

[terapinedtheskeptic]

Terapined, you'll soon learn that coach belly isn't your "typical" troll; oh sure, he'll insult on occasion but mostly he likes to question the basis for your opinion and to find you lacking.

He'd have been the perfect judge at the Salem Witch Trials.

Not that he gives a shit about any of the issues here: like me he simply likes to stir the pot.

I'd say "he means well" but that would be a lie.

Appreciate your advice and support. Yes I'm aware of Coach. Mdawg generally takes a bombastic approach or he just repeats his own quote or just quotes others with nothing original.
Coach kind of acts like Mdawgs dad. Kind of condescending in that not believing his sons tremendous accomplishments is unreasonable and uncalled for. I seriously doubt they are related but you never know

Im gonna lay off on the lyin stuff regarding the dog
I think I made my point to the point of irritation lol
That is if Mdawg can contain himself with this false accusation. If not, game on

[MDawg]

This is from a conversation I had with all admin.

The end result of the below conversation well I can't disclose that because it would be disclosing the other side of the conversation but let's say that all agreed on whatever it was we all agreed on.

I think Terapined’s anti- anyone who posts about Baccarat or winning in general was before I came on the scene (I arrived in Fall 2018, and the below post is from 2014):

B9 is a total troll.

Personal insult -- three-day suspension.

Terapined, I like you, but the rules apply to everybody. Remember that the Goddess of Justice wears a blindfold.

When I first noticed Terapined, I tried to relate to him with a post about the Grateful Dead, mentioning that I like the Dead too, but he ignored me. Since then, I have mentioned more than once that there is room at WOV for both his thread and mine, including in the below two posts (there were others like it that I made, where I complimented his thread):

His thread is fine, I don't have a problem with it

I like your thread it has its place just like many other threads at this forum.

But, these extensions of olive branches never worked with him, he always reverted to being a total jerk off, didn’t even acknowledge my friendly posts.

From what I have been told, “Terapined cannot relate to anyone who has ever made over $50K a year” (those were the exact words), and that he doesn’t like anyone to whom he cannot relate. One of the persons who said that to me explained that this is why he doesn’t like you – because he can’t relate to you.

Obviously, he’s also stubborn, inflexible and not capable of changing his thoughts or perceptions about anything.

Terapined posted this:

“No way Mdawg allows anybody to see the impossible
Because
Its impossible
I read the wizard strategy on baccarat
Play banker
Any other strategy would be flushing down more money down the toilet
No way Mdawg allows us to see him flushing lol”

before I was seen playing by the Wizard – and that sort of thing simply represents the way he thinks. Intractable.


MarcusClark66 pretty much summed it all up here:

First of two disclosures please.

1. I read this whole thread.

2. Not meant to be humiliating or insulting, just simple thoughts and factual interpretations and all in my opinion.

Here goes:

Why do you feel the need to indirectly pay homage to the Fantastic and Great MDawg with every single post you make? You seem to be thinking about him every time you post? The first few words at the beginning of EVERY SINGLE POST you make are supposed to be directed at him, no?

Also, why do you post things like

I love life outdoors be it the country or city
I couldn't spend a vacation indoors at a casino and hotel room
To me its not really living. Some love to take pics of food and money and chips.
Boring.

Does MDawg ever come into your thread and say that what you are posting is boring? Has MDawg ever even posted a word in your thread at all? <<<<PLEASE ANSWER!!

Which, by the way, why is your thread even in the Gambling section / Trip Reports. What does it have to do with Gambling or Trip Reports, when the forum states that Trip Reports should be about Gambling:

GAMBLING
Discussions about gambling


Trip Reports
Describe your gambling trip here, and read trip reports posted by others.

This should be in OFF TOPIC section, no?

Have fun. Get the Great MDawg out of your thoughts unless you have something nice to say, I doubt he thinks about you much.

Thank you for reading what I had to say.

Marcus Clark

And Terapined’s the one who has MDawg on the brain, moreso than I have Terapined on my mind, even accused MarcusClark of being MDawg the moment MarcusClark posted in his thread, and alluded to CoachBelly as being MDawg-like just because he mentioned him in a post:

Don't forget to forward the selfies.

Are you trolling me?
Is this Mdawg?

Terapined if you don’t mind my asking - why do you mention or allude to MDawg so often in your posts. I don’t think he ever talks about you at all unless you post in his thread and even then I don’t think he does

And Terapined’s gone out of his way to insult me many times, including:

MDAWG SUCKS
I Believe he's ruined the forum for a variety of reasons
I would bet money that he's sent more PM's to Mods complaining then any other member
Suspend me
I don't care. I barely post here or DT
I only stopped by out of curiosity to check out a Wizard Burning Man update

I've communicated with terapined outside the forum, asking him if I may interpret his post as an indefinite resignation. He had no problem with that, so that's what I'm doing. As a reminder, he may apply to return anytime after 30 days. The request may or not may accepted, depending on whether he can contribute in a manner other than trolling.

Why is that LIAR Mdawg protected
His whole thread is a total lie
His fan club are all liars and trolls.
All mdawg sock puppets.
His whole liar life is this board.
He actually needs help
Talk about a board addict....
I'm not addicted to this board like that LIAR mdawg and his lieing minions

Nobody cares you lying Board addict
Wise up
Get a real life
There is no doubt you are the biggest snitch on this forum demanding suspensions

Considering other recent suspensions -- 30 days.

I used to post a lot of photos
Not anymore
This forum has really gone downhill
Liars are protected
Members no longer allowed to truthfully confront the liars
Why is that LIAR Mdawg protected
His whole thread is a total lie
His fan club are all liars and trolls.
All mdawg sock puppets.
His whole liar life is this board.
He actually needs help
Talk about a board addict.
Yet
The admins protect the liars and trolls and constantly suspend members that add real content to the discussions.
This place has become a cesspool of liars and trolls and admins here actively protect the liars and trolls.
I posted a ton of interesting pics here
Not any more
No way will I post more pics in this cesspool of a forum.
Go ahead and suspend
Its meaningless
I'm not addicted to this board like that LIAR mdawg and his lieing minions
Have not posted here in a week.
Suspensions are meaningless

Note, emphasis added by me.

Okay, I will. Given a long history of prior offenses, we'll do two months this time.

As a reminder to the forum -- if you don't like somebody's trip reports, let me offer a radical suggestion -- don't read them.

Bottom line is that I have tried to defuse things with him, relate to him, but he’s not having any of it! so as far as I am concerned, f. (forget) him.

As long as he minds his own business the way Wizard has advised him to on innumerable occasions, you won’t hear about him from me. If he continues to troll me, you will.

[terapinedtheskeptic]

Wow. How much time did you spend on this. You got a file on me? This is how serious you take these forums.
Wow
Am I living in your head rent free or what

[kewlJ]

10x multiplier post. Hell the above post by Mdawg is at least a 20x multiplier post. woof woof.

[MisterV]

His poor clients...

"Why the fuck doesn\'t that jackass answer my calls?"

His poor wife.

"WTF dude, you're obsessed with a GAY man, not me."

And of course the Wizard:

"Hey motherfucker, the check bounced."

[MDawg]

If you notice I don’t really respond to T.Pined much lately so you’re wrong when you say I’m obsessed with a gay man.

[pinchingyourballs]

When I first noticed Terapined, I tried to relate to him with a post about the Grateful Dead, mentioning that I like the Dead too, but he ignored me.

But, these extensions of olive branches never worked with him, he always reverted to being a total jerk off, didn’t even acknowledge my friendly posts.

Ultimate Tasha-posting. Tasha, if MDawg is your sock, you are a legend.

[AxelWolf]

When I first noticed Terapined, I tried to relate to him with a post about the Grateful Dead, mentioning that I like the Dead too, but he ignored me.

But, these extensions of olive branches never worked with him, he always reverted to being a total jerk off, didn’t even acknowledge my friendly posts.

Ultimate Tasha-posting. Tasha, if MDawg is your sock, you are a legend.

You do know that at least one person has met Tasha, and she posted a video?

[Dan Druff]

I can't confirm anything about KJ 100%.
I think it's pretty obvious he knows enough about card counting whereas I believe he's a card counter. I haven't any idea what limits he plays or if he 100% supports himself solely on that, but to be honest I don't really care.
There have been some things that he said that make me take great pause and I just find them hard to believe.

This is pretty much my opinion about kewlJ.

Card counting is actually the easiest form of +EV gambling to learn and get fairly good at quickly. Something like poker takes a lot of experience and hours at the table. Machine APing requires a lot of experience, connections, and trial-and-error, as well as a lot of time/travel in some cases.

In 2000, I developed an interest in learning how to count cards. As embarrassing as it is to admit, I was a ploppy -EV gambler up until then, despite being old enough to gamble since the early '90s. (In my defense, I only played low limits, and only gambled once every few months, so I didn't lose much.)

Anyway, I read a text file on the internet about how to card count, spent a short time running hands through a free simulator, and voila, I was a +EV BJ player. Was way harder and more time consuming to get good at poker, which I attempted the following year.

My point is that if kewlJ wanted to learn how to become a profitable BJ player, it wouldn't have been hard for him to learn. So anyone believing he's a BJ ploppy spinning a phony tale about being a counter is just speaking from a place of hatred.

At the same time, kewlJ has also been caught in a lot of lies over time, both on this forum and elsewhere. Therefore, it is unclear if he really makes much (or anything) playing blackjack these days, especially given the increasingly difficult environment to count cards and get away with it. I don't even bother anymore, except at casinos where I don't care about getting banned.

kewlJ is basically the Boy Who Cried Wolf of these AP forums. He has lied so many times that it's impossible to believe any stories he tells, which means that even when he's telling the truth, we think he's lying. That's entirely his fault.

Regarding him possibly being Asian, who cares? It doesn't matter at all what race he is. That has no bearing on anything else. I don't understand why his race is such a big talking point, aside from people trying to figure out who he is in real life.

[tableplay]

[MDawg]

Regarding him possibly being Asian, who cares? It doesn't matter at all what race he is. That has no bearing on anything else. I don't understand why his race is such a big talking point, aside from people trying to figure out who he is in real life.

Exactly.

Wrong

You're black hair tanned Asian looking fella. Pac Islander fits very well. Do you honestly think people would believe you are describing yourself after all you have supposedly done to protect your identity. You can't make this shit up....lol

There's no doubt I have the right guy. Like I said, "I can pick you out of a police line up"

Additionally, that he keeps trying to deny that he is Asian proves he's talking out of both sides of his mouth as far as desiring anonymity. Any true AP desiring anonymity would welcome or at worst let mostly slide any misidentifications. Not jump up and down

screaming like a toddler who just got his baba taken away by a big bad bully

every time someone says he is Asiatic, unless of course, he really is.

[MDawg]

kewlJ has also been caught in a lot of lies over time, both on this forum and elsewhere. Therefore, it is unclear if he really makes much (or anything) playing blackjack these days.

kewlJ is basically the Boy Who Cried Wolf of these AP forums. He has lied so many times that it's impossible to believe any stories he tells, which means that even when he's telling the truth, we think he's lying. That's entirely his fault.

I predict many manic 10X Multipliers trying to address this one, notwithstanding that

I really don't care what people think about me.

[Keystone]

This is from a conversation I had with all admin.

The end result of the below conversation well I can't disclose that because it would be disclosing the other side of the conversation but let's say that all agreed on whatever it was we all agreed on.

I think Terapined’s anti- anyone who posts about Baccarat or winning in general was before I came on the scene (I arrived in Fall 2018, and the below post is from 2014):



When I first noticed Terapined, I tried to relate to him with a post about the Grateful Dead, mentioning that I like the Dead too, but he ignored me. Since then, I have mentioned more than once that there is room at WOV for both his thread and mine, including in the below two posts (there were others like it that I made, where I complimented his thread):

His thread is fine, I don't have a problem with it

I like your thread it has its place just like many other threads at this forum.

But, these extensions of olive branches never worked with him, he always reverted to being a total jerk off, didn’t even acknowledge my friendly posts.

From what I have been told, “Terapined cannot relate to anyone who has ever made over $50K a year” (those were the exact words), and that he doesn’t like anyone to whom he cannot relate. One of the persons who said that to me explained that this is why he doesn’t like you – because he can’t relate to you.

Obviously, he’s also stubborn, inflexible and not capable of changing his thoughts or perceptions about anything.

Terapined posted this:

“No way Mdawg allows anybody to see the impossible
Because
Its impossible
I read the wizard strategy on baccarat
Play banker
Any other strategy would be flushing down more money down the toilet
No way Mdawg allows us to see him flushing lol”

before I was seen playing by the Wizard – and that sort of thing simply represents the way he thinks. Intractable.


MarcusClark66 pretty much summed it all up here:

First of two disclosures please.

1. I read this whole thread.

2. Not meant to be humiliating or insulting, just simple thoughts and factual interpretations and all in my opinion.

Here goes:

Why do you feel the need to indirectly pay homage to the Fantastic and Great MDawg with every single post you make? You seem to be thinking about him every time you post? The first few words at the beginning of EVERY SINGLE POST you make are supposed to be directed at him, no?

Also, why do you post things like

I love life outdoors be it the country or city
I couldn't spend a vacation indoors at a casino and hotel room
To me its not really living. Some love to take pics of food and money and chips.
Boring.

Does MDawg ever come into your thread and say that what you are posting is boring? Has MDawg ever even posted a word in your thread at all? <<<<PLEASE ANSWER!!

Which, by the way, why is your thread even in the Gambling section / Trip Reports. What does it have to do with Gambling or Trip Reports, when the forum states that Trip Reports should be about Gambling:

GAMBLING
Discussions about gambling


Trip Reports
Describe your gambling trip here, and read trip reports posted by others.

This should be in OFF TOPIC section, no?

Have fun. Get the Great MDawg out of your thoughts unless you have something nice to say, I doubt he thinks about you much.

Thank you for reading what I had to say.

Marcus Clark

And Terapined’s the one who has MDawg on the brain, moreso than I have Terapined on my mind, even accused MarcusClark of being MDawg the moment MarcusClark posted in his thread, and alluded to CoachBelly as being MDawg-like just because he mentioned him in a post:

Don't forget to forward the selfies.

Are you trolling me?
Is this Mdawg?

Terapined if you don’t mind my asking - why do you mention or allude to MDawg so often in your posts. I don’t think he ever talks about you at all unless you post in his thread and even then I don’t think he does

And Terapined’s gone out of his way to insult me many times, including:

MDAWG SUCKS
I Believe he's ruined the forum for a variety of reasons
I would bet money that he's sent more PM's to Mods complaining then any other member
Suspend me
I don't care. I barely post here or DT
I only stopped by out of curiosity to check out a Wizard Burning Man update

I've communicated with terapined outside the forum, asking him if I may interpret his post as an indefinite resignation. He had no problem with that, so that's what I'm doing. As a reminder, he may apply to return anytime after 30 days. The request may or not may accepted, depending on whether he can contribute in a manner other than trolling.

Why is that LIAR Mdawg protected
His whole thread is a total lie
His fan club are all liars and trolls.
All mdawg sock puppets.
His whole liar life is this board.
He actually needs help
Talk about a board addict....
I'm not addicted to this board like that LIAR mdawg and his lieing minions

Nobody cares you lying Board addict
Wise up
Get a real life
There is no doubt you are the biggest snitch on this forum demanding suspensions

Considering other recent suspensions -- 30 days.

I used to post a lot of photos
Not anymore
This forum has really gone downhill
Liars are protected
Members no longer allowed to truthfully confront the liars
Why is that LIAR Mdawg protected
His whole thread is a total lie
His fan club are all liars and trolls.
All mdawg sock puppets.
His whole liar life is this board.
He actually needs help
Talk about a board addict.
Yet
The admins protect the liars and trolls and constantly suspend members that add real content to the discussions.
This place has become a cesspool of liars and trolls and admins here actively protect the liars and trolls.
I posted a ton of interesting pics here
Not any more
No way will I post more pics in this cesspool of a forum.
Go ahead and suspend
Its meaningless
I'm not addicted to this board like that LIAR mdawg and his lieing minions
Have not posted here in a week.
Suspensions are meaningless

Note, emphasis added by me.

Okay, I will. Given a long history of prior offenses, we'll do two months this time.

As a reminder to the forum -- if you don't like somebody's trip reports, let me offer a radical suggestion -- don't read them.

Bottom line is that I have tried to defuse things with him, relate to him, but he’s not having any of it! so as far as I am concerned, f. (forget) him.

As long as he minds his own business the way Wizard has advised him to on innumerable occasions, you won’t hear about him from me. If he continues to troll me, you will.

Imagine caring so much about a stranger or actually taking the time to write this all out….what a fuckin loser

[jdaewoo]

There are several mental illnesses that would cause an individual to behave in such a bizarre and obsessive manner.

Or he could just be retarded.

[Keystone]

There are several mental illnesses that would cause an individual to behave in such a bizarre and obsessive manner.

Or he could just be retarded.

I’ll go with Door #2

[MisterV]

The Wicked Wizard suspended Chump Change for two months.

Inter alia, the offensive post began: "You, MDawg, had a multi-year thread where almost everybody got suspended several times to the point of them leaving this forum for good. Fortunately you can see some of them at the other forum that shall not be named because naming it draws a suspension."

To call the hound a disruptor would be an understatement.

Since he started squattng and shitting out his bullshit at WoV many long time posters have left in disgust, myself included: I mean, who wants to stay in a room that smells like the rotting corpse of a dead whale?

In Oregon we know how to deal with dead whales:

*not a death threat; just a metaphor...hello, nuke*

[terapinedtheskeptic]

The Wicked Wizard suspended Chump Change for two months.

Inter alia, the offensive post began: "You, MDawg, had a multi-year thread where almost everybody got suspended several times to the point of them leaving this forum for good. Fortunately you can see some of them at the other forum that shall not be named because naming it draws a suspension."

To call the hound a disruptor would be an understatement.

Since he started squattng and shitting out his bullshit at WoV many long time posters have left in disgust, myself included: I mean, who wants to stay in a room that smells like the rotting corpse of a dead whale?

In Oregon we know how to deal with dead whales:

*not a death threat; just a metaphor*

Wow
I see he is in red
But can't find the post
Thanks for posting it here
This forum is actually a good place to stay up on WOV
So many nonsense threads such as what did you eat
Thanks V
Seems the Wizard is overreacting again
This is what happens when you let a literal trolling dog run rampant on his forum
No doubt a lot of WOV members lurking here including mods
I think that long long long long Mdawg post about me were for the lurkers . Mdawg trying to make him self act as Mr Kumbyah