View Poll Results: Who is the BIggest Bulls-shitter of all Times?

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Thread: Biggest Bulls-Shitter of All Times?

  1. #61
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    If you see someone posting pictures trying to prove anything important, chances are good, what they are trying to prove isn't real.

    And don't confuse that with someone like mickeycrimm posting pictures of the places on his travels.
    What about the before & after photos of his machine plays?

    How about monet's photos of his sports tickets?

    Then there's the links to tournament leader boards.

    Aren't they evidence of something important?
    I would accept most(no live play) online casino account history as proof of winning, but I would not accept B&M casino win/loss statements as proof of winning or losing since that is all too easy to manipulate wins and losses.

    Showing sports tickets pre-games seems legit to me.

    Before and after pictures may or may not tell the entire story it depends on the situation.

    Tournament leaderboards are good enough to show where you are placed, but that may not tell the entire story, it depends on the situation. For example, an unlimited entry sports or poker tourney/content might be meaningless if theres no way to provide proof as to how many entries one used.

    Evidence is important, but so is the math, angle, and logic that goes along with it.

    It really comes down to who's telling the story, whether it makes sense, is there historical evidence of similar things, and can the math and logic to back it up.
    And witnesses who can back up what you are saying.
    And this is why third-party verification of actual straight play won/loss records has been so important in the history of sports handicappers. There's Tipsters or Gypsters?, The Absolute Truth, Handicapper's Report Card, The Sports Monitor, and the simple publishing of weekly plays in newsletters like Playbook.

  2. #62
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post

    What about the before & after photos of his machine plays?

    How about monet's photos of his sports tickets?

    Then there's the links to tournament leader boards.

    Aren't they evidence of something important?
    I would accept most(no live play) online casino account history as proof of winning, but I would not accept B&M casino win/loss statements as proof of winning or losing since that is all too easy to manipulate wins and losses.

    Showing sports tickets pre-games seems legit to me.

    Before and after pictures may or may not tell the entire story it depends on the situation.

    Tournament leaderboards are good enough to show where you are placed, but that may not tell the entire story, it depends on the situation. For example, an unlimited entry sports or poker tourney/content might be meaningless if theres no way to provide proof as to how many entries one used.

    Evidence is important, but so is the math, angle, and logic that goes along with it.

    It really comes down to who's telling the story, whether it makes sense, is there historical evidence of similar things, and can the math and logic to back it up.
    And witnesses who can back up what you are saying.
    And this is why third-party verification of actual straight play won/loss records has been so important in the history of sports handicappers. There's Tipsters or Gypsters?, The Absolute Truth, Handicapper's Report Card, The Sports Monitor, and the simple publishing of weekly plays in newsletters like Playbook.

    You're not even talking about gambling. Do you not understand that?

  3. #63
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post

    What about the before & after photos of his machine plays?

    How about monet's photos of his sports tickets?

    Then there's the links to tournament leader boards.

    Aren't they evidence of something important?
    I would accept most(no live play) online casino account history as proof of winning, but I would not accept B&M casino win/loss statements as proof of winning or losing since that is all too easy to manipulate wins and losses.

    Showing sports tickets pre-games seems legit to me.

    Before and after pictures may or may not tell the entire story it depends on the situation.

    Tournament leaderboards are good enough to show where you are placed, but that may not tell the entire story, it depends on the situation. For example, an unlimited entry sports or poker tourney/content might be meaningless if theres no way to provide proof as to how many entries one used.

    Evidence is important, but so is the math, angle, and logic that goes along with it.

    It really comes down to who's telling the story, whether it makes sense, is there historical evidence of similar things, and can the math and logic to back it up.
    And witnesses who can back up what you are saying.
    And this is why third-party verification of actual straight play won/loss records has been so important in the history of sports handicappers. There's Tipsters or Gypsters?, The Absolute Truth, Handicapper's Report Card, The Sports Monitor, and the simple publishing of weekly plays in newsletters like Playbook.
    I don't know the answer to that. It should be, however, I would be skeptical about going back that far as there might be too many ambiguities. I don't even know how hard it would be to go back and verify everything, who would even be willing to do that?
    I don't know enough about those places or how they conducted their business and tracking or what their angle is, to even have an opinion one way or the other.

    I can't remember who it was, but I believe it might have been Lem Banker, it's very vague in my memory. I know he/or someone notable was claiming lines that were all but impossible to get which made a huge difference between a winning and losing record.

    I was asked to vouch/lie for Richard Radner so he could get in the world records as having the longest winning days in poker on record or some BS like that, I didn't want to hear the details because I was never going to do that. Richard Radner was very good at sports betting, but he fucked people at every turn.

    There are also situations where someone can beat sports for a very long time but as things change they don't necessarily change and they can no longer beat Sports.

    So you said before the reason why you won't post all your picks is because it's not fair to your clients. I believe there's multiple ways we could solve that problem. I'm fairly certain there's some kind of program in which you can pre-enter information that can't be changed/altered and we could view those after the fact. Problem solved. I would absolutely love to see how well you do. I do believe you have an advantage in sports betting but is that advantage above and beyond what you actually charge your clients?

  4. #64
    Notice how kew has been voted BY FAR to be the #1 bullshitter, so he thinks repeating the same old & tired lies about mdawg and myself will somehow magically make things be better for his lying ass.

    Again....wake up and smell the urine. MrV has.

  5. #65
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Evidence is important, but so is the math
    hey hey, but somebody claims that, since physical evidences can be faked, and witnesses corrupteds, then the maths is all that matters, and will prove everythings.

    I'm gonna try it myself.

    For the 10 years I've been a member here I've never disclosed my gaming experiences on this forum.

    Now I have a confession to make, I've supplemented my full-time coaching income with part-time advantage play since 1978. Lucky for me that assistant coaching gigs come with a lot of time off.

    I've mainly been card-counting Blackjack, playing with the thinnest of edges, just .5%.

    But I've run a total of $920 million through in action during that period, and have averaged a $100K profit each year. That's right...I'm up $4.6 million, and that's just one of my many AP revenue streams.

    I have records, receipts, returns, reports and photos to prove all of it, but I won't since no AP would post that stuff. And I won't discuss or explain any of my other plays on the forums, so you'll have to PM me and I'll decide if you are worthy. Maybe I'll even show you photos of my logs, if you are into that whole septic...I mean skeptic...thing. That will take some time, I'll need to figure out how to unwrap that damn package that nobody wanted to open.

    But I have shown the math to back me up, and prove that I know how things work, so THAT is what there is.

    I know none of you know me or ever met me, but if it's witnesses you need for proof, then of course I have many, some famous. Most of them read the forums, but never post. Instead they contact me privately to discuss what a bunch of asshole bullies you all are.

    Wow, it's an unexpected great relief to finally reveal the truth, and having done so I'm gonna beat this story to death from here on out.

    Where do I sign up for the 10x multiplier?

  6. #66
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    I would accept most(no live play) online casino account history as proof of winning, but I would not accept B&M casino win/loss statements as proof of winning or losing since that is all too easy to manipulate wins and losses.

    Showing sports tickets pre-games seems legit to me.

    Before and after pictures may or may not tell the entire story it depends on the situation.

    Tournament leaderboards are good enough to show where you are placed, but that may not tell the entire story, it depends on the situation. For example, an unlimited entry sports or poker tourney/content might be meaningless if theres no way to provide proof as to how many entries one used.

    Evidence is important, but so is the math, angle, and logic that goes along with it.

    It really comes down to who's telling the story, whether it makes sense, is there historical evidence of similar things, and can the math and logic to back it up.
    And witnesses who can back up what you are saying.
    And this is why third-party verification of actual straight play won/loss records has been so important in the history of sports handicappers. There's Tipsters or Gypsters?, The Absolute Truth, Handicapper's Report Card, The Sports Monitor, and the simple publishing of weekly plays in newsletters like Playbook.
    I don't know the answer to that. It should be, however, I would be skeptical about going back that far as there might be too many ambiguities. I don't even know how hard it would be to go back and verify everything, who would even be willing to do that?
    I don't know enough about those places or how they conducted their business and tracking or what their angle is, to even have an opinion one way or the other.

    I can't remember who it was, but I believe it might have been Lem Banker, it's very vague in my memory. I know he/or someone notable was claiming lines that were all but impossible to get which made a huge difference between a winning and losing record.

    I was asked to vouch/lie for Richard Radner so he could get in the world records as having the longest winning days in poker on record or some BS like that, I didn't want to hear the details because I was never going to do that. Richard Radner was very good at sports betting, but he fucked people at every turn.

    There are also situations where someone can beat sports for a very long time but as things change they don't necessarily change and they can no longer beat Sports.

    So you said before the reason why you won't post all your picks is because it's not fair to your clients. I believe there's multiple ways we could solve that problem. I'm fairly certain there's some kind of program in which you can pre-enter information that can't be changed/altered and we could view those after the fact. Problem solved. I would absolutely love to see how well you do. I do believe you have an advantage in sports betting but is that advantage above and beyond what you actually charge your clients?
    As I've been saying for the last decade(s), I worked (past tense, I'm technically retired) on percent of profit. Sliding scale.

    Everything, as with people trying to assign EV to "sports betting," should be restricted to past tense, because what's transpired may or may not predict what's to come.

    I need to correct you hard on one thing. There is no "sports betting." That presumes assuming a brain surgeon should be delivering children. Each sport is its own thing; very, very different things. As soon as you lump all of them together as "accessible to APing," you are lost. Bonus whoring is one thing. Arbitrage is another. They are independent of sport. But nothing else really is. Even something like shooting for middles has huge variance differences and different chances of success sport to sport.

    And things change in each individual sport so, as you say, past performance is no guarantee of future success. Sports can change dramatically with a simple, seemingly small rule change or two. Or they can collapse in a heap like college football now being entirely play-for-pay.

    Not that I'm bitching. From an aesthetic perspective, I hate it. But from a gambling perspective, things may be easier.

    And Axelwolf, I have clients who have kept records of my plays going back at least 15 years. Plus that Wise Guys Contest was two plays a week, every week of every football season, for 20+ years. It's no guarantee of anything (nothing is), but it was strongly suggestive of whether somebody knew what they were doing.

  7. #67
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    What's implied (actually, beyond implied) is that one should accept the anonymous word of someone NOT posting pictures because ... well, because that's kewlJ(s)!
    So now you are going to tell us what is implied? What each of us think?

    Give me a break dude. One thing Singer had right, is you are weird. And getting weirder and weirder.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  8. #68
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Notice how kew has been voted BY FAR to be the #1 bullshitter,
    Again....wake up and smell the urine. MrV has.
    Almost all the expected (troll patrol) has now weighed in. What is your point? Nothing not expected.

    And the only urine you are smelling is coming from your diaper.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  9. #69
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post

    hey hey, but somebody claims that, since physical evidences can be faked, and witnesses corrupteds, then the maths is all that matters, and will prove everythings.

    I'm gonna try it myself.

    For the 10 years I've been a member here I've never disclosed my gaming experiences on this forum.

    Now I have a confession to make, I've supplemented my full-time coaching income with part-time advantage play since 1978. Lucky for me that assistant coaching gigs come with a lot of time off.

    I've mainly been card-counting Blackjack, playing with the thinnest of edges, just .5%.

    But I've run a total of $920 million through in action during that period, and have averaged a $100K profit each year. That's right...I'm up $4.6 million, and that's just one of my many AP revenue streams.

    I have records, receipts, returns, reports and photos to prove all of it, but I won't since no AP would post that stuff. And I won't discuss or explain any of my other plays on the forums, so you'll have to PM me and I'll decide if you are worthy. Maybe I'll even show you photos of my logs, if you are into that whole septic...I mean skeptic...thing. That will take some time, I'll need to figure out how to unwrap that damn package that nobody wanted to open.

    But I have shown the math to back me up, and prove that I know how things work, so THAT is what there is.

    I know none of you know me or ever met me, but if it's witnesses you need for proof, then of course I have many, some famous. Most of them read the forums, but never post. Instead they contact me privately to discuss what a bunch of asshole bullies you all are.

    Wow, it's an unexpected great relief to finally reveal the truth, and having done so I'm gonna beat this story to death from here on out.

    Where do I sign up for the 10x multiplier?
    Now I have saved Belly's nonsense for last because I have a football game to watch.

    Boys Jr High assistant coach belly, the math from your story works. Congratulation. I don't believe you! How dare I?

    Did I really say if the math works you have to believe someone? Could you link to where I said that please?

    Or did I say, the math has to be a starting point. At MINIMUM or the very least, the math has to work. Think hard now which was it I have said many times.

    So the math to your fun little story works. You are over that first smallest hurdle. But you tripped over the rest of them, like demonstrating you know what you are talking about. You have tripped over THAT hurdle many, many times. So no I still wouldn't believe you.

    Now that said, if you were a newer poster that I wasn't familiar with, I probably would not come out and say I didn't believe you. because the math works I would say nothing at least until you proved beyond any doubt that you didn't know what you were talking about.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  10. #70
    Interesting that Red and belly, seem to be doing this Martian type thing of making up things that I said, when it isn't what I said. Or telling us how they "interpreted" what I said, or what was implied, by their way of thinking.

    Stick to the facts, guys. Stick to what was really said.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  11. #71
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    You have tripped over THAT hurdle many, many times.
    Oh no you don't everything I've posted checks out 100%, which is 90% more than can be said about you.

    And now with me revealing that the math is in my favor, I'm over 100%.

    And THAT is how you win in the casinos, THAT and quitting while ahead.

    And by "you" I don't mean you (tewlj) win, I mean me.

  12. #72
    Quitting while ahead is one of those hurdles you didn't get over.
    Quitting while ahead (stop limits) is one of those areas (gambling voodoo) that would prove without a doubt that you DIDN'T know what you were talking about.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  13. #73
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Quitting while ahead is one of those hurdles you didn't get over.
    You obviously know nothing about winning. If you don't quit while ahead then you cannot possible be ahead, you will either have lost or be even.

    You are so dumb, there's no way you got into Villanova with a GED from some swamp HS in Glades county. There's no math taught in Florida, you can barely count to two...and I don't mean two tables, I mean count to two.

  14. #74
    Interesting question with plenty of legitimate candidates among others:

    You've got the old school bullshitters: You've got Rob Singer, obviosuly. You've got Red, the rodney dangerfield of Sports handicapping and journalism, he can't get no respect around here. And you've got crimmdog millionaire.

    The M-Dog doesn't do a whole lot of bullshitting on THIS forum, he mostly sticks to relentlessly harassing and attacking the kewlj here.

    I'm going with Tasha: all the sock bullshitting, the axl rose stuff stuff is all bullshitting, she's a serial bullshitter.

  15. #75
    Originally Posted by mcap View Post
    Interesting question with plenty of legitimate candidates among others:

    You've got the old school bullshitters: You've got Rob Singer, obviosuly. You've got Red, the rodney dangerfield of Sports handicapping and journalism, he can't get no respect around here. And you've got crimmdog millionaire.

    The M-Dog doesn't do a whole lot of bullshitting on THIS forum, he mostly sticks to relentlessly harassing and attacking the kewlj here.

    I'm going with Tasha: all the sock bullshitting, the axl rose stuff stuff is all bullshitting, she's a serial bullshitter.
    But only one is a serial public shitter. She may have struck again!

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  16. #76
    In any case, “As long as UNKewlJ remembers who's wearing the trousers" - around here, and it ain't UNKewlJ!



    Originally Posted by jdog View Post
    Gentlemen, at this point I'm starting to think kewl is bipolar. When these people are in a manic state they are often delusional.
    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.

    MDawg Adventures carry on at: https://www.truepassage.com/forums/f.../46-IPlayVegas

  17. #77
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Quitting while ahead is one of those hurdles you didn't get over.
    You obviously know nothing about winning. If you don't quit while ahead then you cannot possible be ahead, you will either have lost or be even.

    You are so dumb, there's no way you got into Villanova with a GED from some swamp HS in Glades county. There's no math taught in Florida, you can barely count to two...and I don't mean two tables, I mean count to two.

    Villanova costs a small fortune. More than 60K a year NOT counting room and board.

    Draw your own conclusions. Next we'll get the tale of the magic scholarship.

    KewlJ should have chosen some obscure liberal arts school with about 500 students in Rhode Island for his story.

    Can you imagine some relative saying, "Yeah, let's pour 400K into kewlJ's college education at Villanova?"

    I know this stuff because I played hoops with Bob Foley, Villanova grad and college hoops coach. We guarded each other about 200 times.

    https://www.providencejournal.com/st...y/73528404007/
    Last edited by redietz; 12-06-2024 at 09:51 AM.

  18. #78
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    In any case, “As long as UNKewlJ remembers who's wearing the trousers" - around here, and it ain't UNKewlJ!



    Originally Posted by jdog View Post
    Gentlemen, at this point I'm starting to think kewl is bipolar. When these people are in a manic state they are often delusional.
    Lame as usual…..I told you before, stick to dispensing out Hamas Hand Jobs instead of comedy….you're a hack

  19. #79
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Mdawg claims, but they are so ridiculous, no one believes them.
    Keep saying that to yourself UNKewlJ, trying to convince yourself. If it's true, why do you need to repeat 1000 times?

    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    If I have to be honest here, at this point MDawg actually has way more credibility than you. He's actually met up with the wizard, played Baccarat at a medium level, and won.
    Originally Posted by jdog View Post
    since kewl has never (and never will) provided proof of anything, MDawg has to be considered the more credible between the two.
    Originally Posted by mission146
    In fairness to MDawg, he has definitely proven more about himself than I understand you to have done.
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    Every now and then you get a new piece to the MDawg puzzle. Maybe one day it will be solved. But for now he has 10x more credibility than you. People know him, people have seen him play, he's actually profited from a non-believer, and has had no one step up to claim supposed free money if they don't believe a story told about a session or whatever.

    Meanwhile you have absolutely nothing substantiated....RIP
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    If MDawg was recycling pics and other evidence he has supplied supporting these sessions then he would have been called out on it. Also he has his challenge available for any session that is in dispute. Really for forums it doesn't get anymore stand up than that.
    AxelWolf:



    DarkOz:



    cwwbjr:
    https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gamb...51/#post855094
    “My money is on MDawg.”


    SooPoo supports MDawg:


    Sodawater


    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    MDawg is Number 1 in your minds and Number 1 in my heart!!
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    But no one has taken control of the forums and members like MDawg has. For that you have to give him credit whether you like him or not. He has made a fool out of everyone that challenged him.
    Originally Posted by monet View Post

    MDawg is taken more serious than anyone on here currently.
    He is taken so seriously that DarkOz gave him 2,000 dollars.
    That wasn't good enough so he tipped the Wizard 500 dollars.
    I'd say that MDawg is taken very seriously to some members.
    DarkOz for starters.
    Originally Posted by MaxPen
    I'm pretty sure you don't have a clue to the possibilities of what he is really doing. All you've done is spent years trying to discredit the guy without providing one ounce of proof beyond the obvious as to what is really going on.
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post

    MDawg is another story, he invited scrutiny and witnesses...and how did that turn out?

    Wise up.

    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post

    I tend to publicly stay out of things when I don't exactly know what's going on. You should try it sometime. I may have expressed a paragraph or so on what MDawg's deal may be. Frankly I don't care.

    At a minimum one person I know has met the guy and says he is a decent person. That gives him 10x more credibility than you have.

    Most people reading this site just show up to watch the FraudJ trainwreck.
    Originally Posted by soxfan View Post
    Bbbwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh so the wizard give the mdawg his seal of approvals and the kewlj gonna short circuit and wobble out of control, hey hey.
    Last edited by MDawg; 12-06-2024 at 10:23 AM.
    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.

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  20. #80
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    AccountinQuestion, I am not posting this to troll you. It is a serious question. Aren't you the least bit embarrassed to have voted the way you did?

    But look who has not voted that way (or at all). Dan Druff
    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.

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