Originally Posted by
redietz
Originally Posted by
AxelWolf
I would accept most(no live play) online casino account history as proof of winning, but I would not accept B&M casino win/loss statements as proof of winning or losing since that is all too easy to manipulate wins and losses.
Showing sports tickets pre-games seems legit to me.
Before and after pictures may or may not tell the entire story it depends on the situation.
Tournament leaderboards are good enough to show where you are placed, but that may not tell the entire story, it depends on the situation. For example, an unlimited entry sports or poker tourney/content might be meaningless if theres no way to provide proof as to how many entries one used.
Evidence is important, but so is the math, angle, and logic that goes along with it.
It really comes down to who's telling the story, whether it makes sense, is there historical evidence of similar things, and can the math and logic to back it up.
And witnesses who can back up what you are saying.
And this is why third-party verification of actual straight play won/loss records has been so important in the history of sports handicappers. There's Tipsters or Gypsters?, The Absolute Truth, Handicapper's Report Card, The Sports Monitor, and the simple publishing of weekly plays in newsletters like Playbook.
I don't know the answer to that. It should be, however, I would be skeptical about going back that far as there might be too many ambiguities. I don't even know how hard it would be to go back and verify everything, who would even be willing to do that?
I don't know enough about those places or how they conducted their business and tracking or what their angle is, to even have an opinion one way or the other.
I can't remember who it was, but I believe it might have been Lem Banker, it's very vague in my memory. I know he/or someone notable was claiming lines that were all but impossible to get which made a huge difference between a winning and losing record.
I was asked to vouch/lie for Richard Radner so he could get in the world records as having the longest winning days in poker on record or some BS like that, I didn't want to hear the details because I was never going to do that. Richard Radner was very good at sports betting, but he fucked people at every turn.
There are also situations where someone can beat sports for a very long time but as things change they don't necessarily change and they can no longer beat Sports.
So you said before the reason why you won't post all your picks is because it's not fair to your clients. I believe there's multiple ways we could solve that problem. I'm fairly certain there's some kind of program in which you can pre-enter information that can't be changed/altered and we could view those after the fact. Problem solved. I would absolutely love to see how well you do. I do believe you have an advantage in sports betting but is that advantage above and beyond what you actually charge your clients?