Professional Sportsbetting

[mickeycrimm]

How do you do playing Poker on Bovada Mickey? Are you a winning player? I have never played a single hand of poker (excluding VP) online or in person.

I make a little money playing nl25 and Nl50. The nl50 zone poker is about equivalent to playing live nl200 as far as the amount of action one generates. Those games are soft. I like that on Bovada and Ignition (I’m also on Ignition) one is anonymous at the poker table. They can’t use the poker trackers on you. You can’t bum hunt or be the bum hunted.

I play the 6-handed zone poker where I’m looking at 200 hands per hour while playing just one table. The pace keeps it interesting. I had to study 6 handed NL to get profitable. But it’s still not serious money. I haven’t made a deposit or withdrawal in over 10 years. I consider Bovada and Ignition to be savings accounts.

I might jump up to nl200 one of these days.

PS Party Poker paid interest for letting your money sit on the site. To bad they had to leave the market.

[tableplay]

30x roll D+B most people will lose everything.

Well, actually that didn't apply to me. In November, I received what amounted to a 10x promo. For that promo (which I have linked to below), you could choose a Free Rounds option (10x) instead of a Sports Betting option (which had the 30x requirement). So, for example if you deposited $50, you would get $150 worth (300%) of free rounds (if you chose the free rounds option, like I did). As shown below, you could use Nucleus (a gaming software company) American Blackjack on the 150 sticky chip rounds (somewhat disconcerting when you are dealt two Aces and when you try to split it tells you "not enough funds" since you only get a $1 equivalent sticky chip for each round and can't take another chip to use for the split on that round). After the Free Rounds are over, you must wager your winnings from the Free Rounds (say 90% of the $150 in free rounds) 10x on any casino game (LMFAO). So I bet come/don't come on Nucleus Craps to do the 10x turnover and retained close to 100% of that 90%. If I had been confident that I could get my withdrawals out without getting cheated, I would have done this promotion every day possible irrespective of how high the deposit requirement got (since it had to be the same as your last withdrawal amount plus the amount you kick in up to $500 for the next Free Rounds deposit bonus).
https://nitrobetting.eu/promotion-bl...300-cash-bonus

[tableplay]

Whose going to write the book, Bonus Whoring For Fun And Profit?

Hopefully it is not a lowly AP that writes it - what the heck do we know anyway ?

[mickeycrimm]

Whose going to write the book, Bonus Whoring For Fun And Profit?

Hopefully it is not a lowly AP that writes it - what the heck do we know anyway ?

Bonus whoring online poker was a big thing before Black Friday.

[tableplay]

Whose going to write the book, Bonus Whoring For Fun And Profit?

Hopefully it is not a lowly AP that writes it - what the heck do we know anyway ?

Bonus whoring online poker was a big thing before Black Friday.

Yes. Luckily with cryptocurrency, sweeps casinos, VPNs, decentralized casinos (No KYC), and so on, it would appear that enough workarounds are now in place to make it not too much more of a hassle than it was just after Black Friday.

[AxelWolf]

Hopefully it is not a lowly AP that writes it - what the heck do we know anyway ?

Bonus whoring online poker was a big thing before Black Friday.

Yes. Luckily with cryptocurrency, sweeps casinos, VPNs, decentralized casinos (No KYC), and so on, it would appear that enough workarounds are now in place to make it not too much more of a hassle than it was just after Black Friday.

I said it before and I will say it again... Bitcoin was the best thing to ever happen to online casinos.

Sure, there was a "golden age" of the low rollover bonus whoreing, but there were significantly fewer casinos and fewer options for depositing. I must admit, Neteller was the bomb when it came to just using your own accounts, but it was a pain in the ass for multi-accounting. You had to get creative and find different methods that were constantly changing. What may have worked one day may not work the next day.

I tested numerous prepaid gift cards that were rejected before I finally found the black INTERNATIONAL Visa gift cards that worked for some time. Even with that, you had to deal with trustworthy people who would hand you over a check for thousands of dollars, that's not always easy to find.

Yeah, I am sure there are people that were very proficient and found lots of different ways around all the hoops, but when you're also spending a significant amount of time in brick-and-mortar casinos you don't exactly have time to figure out every possibility.

Now with cryptocurrency and the invention of anonymous casinos, you could spend 24/7/365 working and still not even scratch the surface. Sky's the limit depending on your dedication and knowledge.

The times change and technology advances. You have to adapt and find new ways to beat the casinos.

Sure old methods may still work at a snail's pace.

Some people are arrogant and stubborn all while still using their old 1990s methods to handicap, play online, or whatever else they're doing to make money gambling. Meanwhile, some snot-nosed brat comes along with little or no experience and makes 10 times more than they ever have 10 times faster. I understand why guys like Red are infuriated with Advantage Players nowadays.

[kewlJ]

Whose going to write the book, Bonus Whoring For Fun And Profit?

Hopefully it is not a lowly AP that writes it - what the heck do we know anyway ?

There is a couple "funny" things about redietz's many comments and reactions about APs and sports betting.

We read him repeatedly belittle APs that they don't know what they are doing.
We read him say things like, you think I haven't been doing that for years/decades.

Ok, so some of us are doing things he has been doing, then we must know what we are doing.

And if we have no clue what we are doing, as he repeatedly claims, then what the fuck is he SO bothered about that he keeps coming with all the anti-AP statements?

Something about his angry reaction doesn't add up.

[MDawg]

I'll also say that it seems very important to you that people believe you.

You seem to descend into a much darker place when you battle with people on these forums.

KJ, why don’t you just stop with all the bitter angry crap.

[tableplay]

Neteller was the bomb

Yes, I often used Neteller back then. Another pre-Black Friday staple was Ecocard which was very good. And of course many of us on this forum used Western Union and Moneygram (and even now probably for some VCT members).

[accountinquestion]

The site above doesn't take btc but takes all the others??? Huh? I thought it was expected at casinos by now.

[redietz]

Whose going to write the book, Bonus Whoring For Fun And Profit?

Hopefully it is not a lowly AP that writes it - what the heck do we know anyway ?

There is a couple "funny" things about redietz's many comments and reactions about APs and sports betting.

We read him repeatedly belittle APs that they don't know what they are doing.
We read him say things like, you think I haven't been doing that for years/decades.

Ok, so some of us are doing things he has been doing, then we must know what we are doing.

And if we have no clue what we are doing, as he repeatedly claims, then what the fuck is he SO bothered about that he keeps coming with all the anti-AP statements?

Something about his angry reaction doesn't add up.

And if there's one thing coming back from the dead makes you expert in -- it's everything. Because, once you've been to hell and heaven, you know it all.

And again, no direct quotes from the Kewljs, because that won't work.

Let me be crystal clear -- my "belittling (kewlj's word)" of APs has to do with their presuming that "sports betting" is a thing as opposed to betting individual sports. And then having such "general practitioners," so to speak, decide they somehow know better than experts in particular sports. It's ridiculous. Anything APs do in specific sports can be done better by experts in those specific sports. And then you have the multi-account bonus attempts, and people shocked, shocked I tell you, when sports books figure them out and shut them down and occasionally keep their money. And let's not forget my disdain for people recruiting family and friends so those family/friends can provide charity sign-up bonuses for the "APs," which is a helluva way to treat family and friends. Here's a thought -- spend an hour showing people how to get their own sign-up bonuses. If you believe the "APs," no civilian can figure out how to do it, and all civilians are happy to allow others to take most of the money.

Yeah, nothing adds up like coming back from the dead, and arm-breaking adventures, and people giving you player dossiers for no good reason. Yeah, all of those things add up.

The kewlJs need a new schtick.

[kewlJ]

Hopefully it is not a lowly AP that writes it - what the heck do we know anyway ?

There is a couple "funny" things about redietz's many comments and reactions about APs and sports betting.

We read him repeatedly belittle APs that they don't know what they are doing.
We read him say things like, you think I haven't been doing that for years/decades.

Ok, so some of us are doing things he has been doing, then we must know what we are doing.

And if we have no clue what we are doing, as he repeatedly claims, then what the fuck is he SO bothered about that he keeps coming with all the anti-AP statements?

Something about his angry reaction doesn't add up.

And if there's one thing coming back from the dead makes you expert in -- it's everything. Because, once you've been to hell and heaven, you know it all.

And again, no direct quotes from the Kewljs, because that won't work.

Let me be crystal clear -- my "belittling (kewlj's word)" of APs has to do with their presuming that "sports betting" is a thing as opposed to betting individual sports. And then having such "general practitioners," so to speak, decide they somehow know better than experts in particular sports. It's ridiculous. Anything APs do in specific sports can be done better by experts in those specific sports. And then you have the multi-account bonus attempts, and people shocked, shocked I tell you, when sports books figure them out and shut them down and occasionally keep their money. And let's not forget my disdain for people recruiting family and friends so those family/friends can provide charity sign-up bonuses for the "APs," which is a helluva way to treat family and friends. Here's a thought -- spend an hour showing people how to get their own sign-up bonuses. If you believe the "APs," no civilian can figure out how to do it, and all civilians are happy to allow others to take most of the money.

Yeah, nothing adds up like coming back from the dead, and arm-breaking adventures, and people giving you player dossiers for no good reason. Yeah, all of those things add up.

The kewlJs need a new schtick.

Oh stop with the coming back from the dead, you bald headed fool.

I will re-ask the question I asked before and didn't get an answer to: Where has anyone said they know better than some expert single sport handicapper, if that is what you are? Where? Show me where one of us AP's said that?

Looks to me that you are just insecure that some AP's are able to make some monet doing anything with sports betting. It always comes down to someone on these forums being insecure.

It is cold in Vegas right now. Bring a damn hat so as not to freeze your bald head and what remaining brain cells you have left.

[MDawg]

No one with any sense cottons to outed compulsively lying sociopaths, making comments on anything, at all.

So, 'git, like you said you would. The End.

Is this like the 10th time you've announced you're leaving? Why are you still here?

[kewlJ]

When she was hijacking every thread, Tasha was thread and post restricted. When singer was re-instated after he was banned for bigoted/racist comments, he was supposedly limited to 1 thread. (Never enforced).

Shouldn't this sand nigger, who hijacks EVERY thread with his compulsive stalking at the very least be limited to a thread or two? He can never post anything on actual topic. Just KJ obsession. He really should be put in his own little box/cage. Let him have one thread for his obsessive stalking. Call it "fake lawyer's KJ obsession adventure".

[MisterV]

[QUOTE=kewlJ;187997]Shouldn't this sand nigger, who hijacks EVERY thread with his compulsive stalking at the very least be limited to a thread or two? /QUOTE]

Give him the axe, the axe, the axe.

[Keystone]

[QUOTE=MisterV;188005]

Shouldn't this sand nigger, who hijacks EVERY thread with his compulsive stalking at the very least be limited to a thread or two? /QUOTE]

Give him the axe, the axe, the axe.

Won’t matter. Habib posts at like 10 other forums all day long. Busy guy that he is

[tableplay]

The site above doesn't take btc but takes all the others??? Huh? I thought it was expected at casinos by now.

The post pertaining to the site above was meant as a nostalgic trip to the earlier days of internet casinos (which started in the late 90's) that Axelwolf was referring to - when Neteller was king and cryptocurrencies were known only to financial/economic theoreticians possibly. I received that e-mail over 19 years ago. Just one of the many internet casinos I joined back then that I usually used Neteller to deposit in or withdraw from. Before the FBI banned Neteller (the event that Mickey referred to as Black Friday - which obliterated the online gambling world for US citizens who lost access to massive amounts of money housed in their online gambling accounts which were frozen in the FBI crackdown forever as these sites shut down or closed US customer accounts) and other financial transaction companies from doing business with US citizens making it much harder for US Citizens to do internet gambling. As mentioned above, cryptocurrencies and No KYC casinos (aka cryptocasinos/decentralized casinos), make it virtually impossible for US regulators to prevent US citizens from exercising their right to gamble since funding and withdrawing from online casinos can be done with cryptocurrencies - completely circumventing the legacy banking system.

[MisterV]

I play far less often and will not play vp above dollars any more,

How did you "wean" yourself away from the higher betting figures, especially given your claim that you won $1.5M at VP a few years ago?

You should be rolling in dough.

I myself find my average bet amount creeps up over time, not down.

[accountinquestion]

Hopefully it is not a lowly AP that writes it - what the heck do we know anyway ?

There is a couple "funny" things about redietz's many comments and reactions about APs and sports betting.

We read him repeatedly belittle APs that they don't know what they are doing.
We read him say things like, you think I haven't been doing that for years/decades.

Ok, so some of us are doing things he has been doing, then we must know what we are doing.

And if we have no clue what we are doing, as he repeatedly claims, then what the fuck is he SO bothered about that he keeps coming with all the anti-AP statements?

Something about his angry reaction doesn't add up.

And if there's one thing coming back from the dead makes you expert in -- it's everything. Because, once you've been to hell and heaven, you know it all.

And again, no direct quotes from the Kewljs, because that won't work.

Let me be crystal clear -- my "belittling (kewlj's word)" of APs has to do with their presuming that "sports betting" is a thing as opposed to betting individual sports. And then having such "general practitioners," so to speak, decide they somehow know better than experts in particular sports. It's ridiculous. Anything APs do in specific sports can be done better by experts in those specific sports. And then you have the multi-account bonus attempts, and people shocked, shocked I tell you, when sports books figure them out and shut them down and occasionally keep their money. And let's not forget my disdain for people recruiting family and friends so those family/friends can provide charity sign-up bonuses for the "APs," which is a helluva way to treat family and friends. Here's a thought -- spend an hour showing people how to get their own sign-up bonuses. If you believe the "APs," no civilian can figure out how to do it, and all civilians are happy to allow others to take most of the money.

Yeah, nothing adds up like coming back from the dead, and arm-breaking adventures, and people giving you player dossiers for no good reason. Yeah, all of those things add up.

The kewlJs need a new schtick.

The best part of a redietz post is the mental gymnastics he goes through to show that NO he is not jealous of APs and is actually a superior person.

[accountinquestion]

The site above doesn't take btc but takes all the others??? Huh? I thought it was expected at casinos by now.

The post pertaining to the site above was meant as a nostalgic trip to the earlier days of internet casinos (which started in the late 90's) that Axelwolf was referring to - when Neteller was king and cryptocurrencies were known only to financial/economic theoreticians possibly. I received that e-mail over 19 years ago. Just one of the many internet casinos I joined back then that I usually used Neteller to deposit in or withdraw from. Before the FBI banned Neteller (the event that Mickey referred to as Black Friday - which obliterated the online gambling world for US citizens who lost access to massive amounts of money housed in their online gambling accounts which were frozen in the FBI crackdown forever as these sites shut down or closed US customer accounts) and other financial transaction companies from doing business with US citizens making it much harder for US Citizens to do internet gambling. As mentioned above, cryptocurrencies and No KYC casinos (aka cryptocasinos/decentralized casinos), make it virtually impossible for US regulators to prevent US citizens from exercising their right to gamble since funding and withdrawing from online casinos can be done with cryptocurrencies - completely circumventing the legacy banking system.

That makes sense..I wondered briefly about neteller but assumed it was another version of neteller.

Neteller was awesome. Back during the online poker boom. I could withdraw to netwller then take the debit card to 711 and get 1k in 100s in less than an hour. A young gamblers dream, really.