Professional Sportsbetting

[accountinquestion]

I want to mention that I rolled over much, much more than the required amount for the bonus.

I recently started out cashing out my weekly limit and everything was okay the first few times I cashed out, but as I kept cashing out the time in between cashouts got longer and longer, almost 2 weeks for one cashout. Now suddenly they have limited my cashout limits by about 65%.

This is my favorite form of gambling because (the way I do it) it's very low-stress, without any of the annoyances encountered in a b&m sportsbook or casino. Probably not realistic, but I would like to peacefully coexist with the sportsbooks to ensure durable relationships. I'm trying to employ heavy cover, but I don't know what's effective. I give double the rollover if not more. I mostly avoid certain types of bets that may be associated with smart players. I'm cautious about exploiting sudden line movements. I never bet outright mistakes. Ultimately though, I can't hide my account balance.

Here is some email content I have gotten from a top online sports book manager so you can see what they are thinking a bit when it comes to this stuff.
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"Keep in mind that we are a book for recreational players. Recreational players are welcome to play and win and cash out as much as they want. However, we are not interested in bonusing professional gamblers.

Being a professional gambler has nothing to do with winning or losing. It has to do with what you are playing. If you are playing all line moves and stale lines in obscure sports with week lines, we will pay you but not bonus your transactions.



I get that being from Vegas does make you a pro gambler. But most of our professional gamblers come in from Vegas and they generally come in for a couple to a few thousand dollars and always in crypto. So when I see those 3 things I like to be upfront."
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FYI they are worse than me when it comes to writing, LOL.
I will no longer play there due to those comments.

Redietz ridiculed me for using weak in reference to lines.

[Don Perignom]

Here is some email content I have gotten from a top online sports book manager so you can see what they are thinking a bit when it comes to this stuff.
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"Keep in mind that we are a book for recreational players. Recreational players are welcome to play and win and cash out as much as they want. However, we are not interested in bonusing professional gamblers.

Being a professional gambler has nothing to do with winning or losing. It has to do with what you are playing. If you are playing all line moves and stale lines in obscure sports with week lines, we will pay you but not bonus your transactions.

I get that being from Vegas does make you a pro gambler. But most of our professional gamblers come in from Vegas and they generally come in for a couple to a few thousand dollars and always in crypto. So when I see those 3 things I like to be upfront."

That's fascinating. I play a lot of partial game bets -- 1st half, 1st period, 1st quarter.

My residence address is not in Vegas. I can understand the suspicion of Vegas residents, but I would have thought most sports pros are residing in wide-open legal states rather than Nevada.

I do use crypto because what else can you do? But if it helps, I hate it. This was my last withdrawal:



On podcasts, they always talk about pros having good CLV - closing line value. But I've never tried to gauge my own CLV.

[Tasha]

Kamil Rudomina(K. Rudomina), a Table Tennis Player is the Player in question that I was referring to when I said he often wins and was the LONGSHOT and I STILL picked him knowing he often wins and he WON.

In fact, here is a website that talks about some of Rudomina matches.

https://m.aiscore.com/head-to-head/t...kamil-rudomina

[Don Perignom]

Kamil Rudomina(K. Rudomina), a Table Tennis Player is the Player in question that I was referring to when I said he often wins and was the LONGSHOT and I STILL picked him knowing he often wins and he WON.

Is it possible you registered at the Chinese sportsbook by mistake?

[Tasha]

Kamil Rudomina(K. Rudomina), a Table Tennis Player is the Player in question that I was referring to when I said he often wins and was the LONGSHOT and I STILL picked him knowing he often wins and he WON.

Is it possible you registered at the Chinese sportsbook by mistake?

No, I registered with the Florida part of Hard Rock Bet.

I just edited my post to include a website that talks about Rudomina matches.

[Don Perignom]

I feel very conspicuous

Probably not realistic, but I would like to peacefully coexist with the sportsbooks to ensure durable relationships.

Here is some email content I have gotten from a top online sports book manager

"Being a professional gambler has nothing to do with winning or losing."

On the other hand, I just got promo-banned at a book where I was ridiculously lucky on my first several thousand of wagers.



It appears they also un-loyalty clubbed and limited me. I'm now seeing max bets of $100 on dogs, and max win of $100 on cats (favorites). I can adapt to that, assuming they don't tighten me down further. I was not at all playing a "bust the bonus" strategy. I don't think I had any bets above $200.

They just don't want to be my friend.

[Tasha]

Hmm. According to the Rudomina link I posted, Rudomina has an 80 percent chance of winning, no wonder I get so lucky when I bet on Rudomina!

[Don Perignom]

no wonder I get so lucky when I bet on Rudomina!

Rudomina is rudiculous .

[Tasha]

no wonder I get so lucky when I bet on Rudomina!

Rudomina is rudiculous .

Ridiculously a HUGE winning player!

[MisterV]

Who knew that an obscure, previously unknown ping pong player would be a ticket out of the ghetto?

Today ping pong...tomrorrow, the world!

[MDawg]

Money talks, B.S. walks.

Quit your incessant soft whine and go for the MDawg Challenge

[MisterV]

Assume that someone said "OK, let's dance..." and accepted the challenge.

Exactly what type of probative evidence would you be able to come up with to "prove" that the amounts you claim to have won in a particular session actully are based in reality?

Pics of chips mean bullshit.

The casino will not release the tape of a session upon request, would they? i'd think not, but if they did I'd suspect collusion between them and you, given your claim that they love you.

Your "notes" or "log" would also be non-probative: GI,GO.

So tell me: what would you, what could you offer as proof?

No, I think the BETTER challenge would be for you and the challenger to agree on a neutral CPA, one who understands the ins and out of casino gambling, and give him / her complete access to your tax returns and records for the past five years.

Allow the CPA to request info about you from the IRS as part of the investigation, including THE IRS's summary of your returns, mailed to the CPA by the IRS on their letterhead.

You report that you've won millions over the recent years: surely a responsible attorney such as you portray yourself as being would have reported these winnings as gambling income on your return, and THAT is what I'd focus on as being probative.

Note that I said you'd have "reported these winnings as gambling income on your return:" that doesn't mean you paid tax on all of the winnings as you might have offsetting deductions, but if you had a profit at the end of the year it should, BY LAW, have been reported on your returns.

THAT would be of value; your "challenge" as currently structured is a sham, an exercise in futility...as is your ongoing posting of bogus gambling success.

[MDawg]

What you're saying is that I would not report winnings unless I won. I agree! But at the end of the day, table game wins as far as the IRS is concerned are all self reported the casinos do not report anything to the government.

The casinos do, however, keep a very precise log of win/loss at the tables, which for someone like me who plays alone at a private table is absolute (the rack is counted before and after my session). That record is enough to verify to the dollar what I won at any given session. Anyone who knows anything about this would understand that that is the way to undertake The MDawg Challenge and anyone who claims otherwise, doesn't know much about casinos or table games.

[MisterV]

Woud these "rack records" be available for review over a five year period?

That might be useful.

Oh, I admit that I don't know much about how this shit works...but I understand the human heart and the need of some folks to pretend to be something they are not.

[Don Perignom]

As a reminder, this thread is for casual players looking to add more excitement to the events and games they love.

If you aren't a casual player, please move along.

[coach belly]

I'd suspect collusion between them and you

Of course you would, because a conspiracy theory is all you have to cling to should you face verifiable evidence.

Why do you assume that MD would provide any evidence that could win his challenge?

That's far less likely than whatever collusion you'd suspect.

Why not offer to witness sessions? How many times can he win on demand?

[AxelWolf]

Here is some email content I have gotten from a top online sports book manager so you can see what they are thinking a bit when it comes to this stuff.
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"Keep in mind that we are a book for recreational players. Recreational players are welcome to play and win and cash out as much as they want. However, we are not interested in bonusing professional gamblers.

Being a professional gambler has nothing to do with winning or losing. It has to do with what you are playing. If you are playing all line moves and stale lines in obscure sports with week lines, we will pay you but not bonus your transactions.

I get that being from Vegas does make you a pro gambler. But most of our professional gamblers come in from Vegas and they generally come in for a couple to a few thousand dollars and always in crypto. So when I see those 3 things I like to be upfront."

That's fascinating. I play a lot of partial game bets -- 1st half, 1st period, 1st quarter.

My residence address is not in Vegas. I can understand the suspicion of Vegas residents, but I would have thought most sports pros are residing in wide-open legal states rather than Nevada.

I do use crypto because what else can you do? But if it helps, I hate it. This was my last withdrawal:



On podcasts, they always talk about pros having good CLV - closing line value. But I've never tried to gauge my own CLV.

Hey, I feel your pain. I don't convert to cash that often, but it kinda sucks when I make large deposits into online casinos and suddenly BTC goes way up then when I cash out it goes down. Confirmation bias of course as I dont really notice when the opposite is happening. Nowadays I do not even think about it as it is what it is.

Use Thether when possible if you don't want the fluctuation.

[MisterV]

Why not offer to witness sessions? How many times can he win on demand?

That would require me to travel to LV, which I have no desire to do.

Note: I am not obligated to prove a negative; he makes the bold claim, let him prove it.

I know he's lying, and that's good enough for me.

[MDawg]

Both UNKewlJ and V handed pussy tickets they declined to pick up:

UNKewlJ turned down the chance to win $300,000. cash! that seedvalue was willing to drop off with Dan Druff, the first post of this thread.
https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...l=1#post164057
He didn't even call seedvalue's bluff, because UNKewLyingJ knew he had nothing to offer in the way of proof of ever having received a nickel for his fictional backrooming fable.

And he turned this down this Challenge too, which I offered to both V and UNKewlJ:

The problem is, UNKewlJ has no pots to piss in. Whereas I have all sorts and sizes and different shapes to piss in. So engaging with that irritant for a wager is apparently a waste of time. I tried to propose a simple bet where the only thing at stake was self banning from these forums, and he couldn't even pick that up.

So, let's say I bet...something more substantial, with someone who evidently at least has some pots to piss in. With MisterV. V, I can come up with any figure we agree on, against, that:

any entire year you pick of my session results will be corroborated within shall we say 10% of what the casinos have reported. Obviously for a bet like that my providing WIN statements will not be enough, we'd have to go to Vegas together and ask for them together directly from the casinos. And obviously we are not going to do that for a mere pittance.

And I will add, to make it airtight, that if you determine that I have played at any casino other than the ones I have provided access to for WIN statements, that forfeits the entire bet in your favor. If you recall, I once bet AxelWolf six figures that he could not find a single casino at which I had played other than the ones reported in my WIN statements.

I'd want an NDA signed with a liquidated damages clause as to protecting my identity (and yours too, if you like), but obviously you will be free to post the results publicly, after you pay me for the wager.

But keep in mind before you decide on how much you're willing to lose that the WIN statements I posted were not pieces of paper, they were actual live video of me logged into my player accounts, navigating pages.

I'll leave this offer, like the UNKewl one he declined, on the table for 24 hours too. Let me know.

This is a serious wager for what appears to be a serious person.

[coach belly]

I am not obligated to prove a negative; he makes the bold claim, let him prove it.

darkoz didn't travel to LV.

MD already proved that he can win on demand, and is willing to prove that he's been truthful.

Your bold claim is that he is lying...so how about you prove that?