Recent Vegas blackjack experience

[accountinquestion]

The largest business case for skill-based gaming is likely machines designed to skirt local laws on gambling. I remember seeing some machines where you had to 'nudge' the reels in a certain direction to get the payout. Of course it was very obvious which direction to nudge them but this was called 'skill'.

I subscribed to some used slot facebook groups out of curiosity. There was a vendor today that posted selling 'skill based games' that were supposedly legal. I was going to post the link but i couldn't tell if my FB account was somehow embedded in the URL it gave me so I didn't.

In my part of the world low-end bars are being taken over by these slots. I stopped at one recently because I thought it was an old bar that opened up. Was with my dad and wanted to have a couple of beers with him. Go inside to find out you can't buy beers but you get them free if you buyin to the machines. I should have just done that but instead we went down the road to a real bar.. which also had a dozen modern looking slot machines lining the walls. Go into the city proper and the municipal police crack down on these things.

[AxelWolf]

Some kind of heads up or 4,,6,8 way contest that bros could battle over.

Do those guys have the money and dedicated attention that it would take to put any significant coin in? They had games exactly like that, but they never lasted.

[DGenBen]

Skill based slots were doomed to fail because from a gambler’s standpoint the whole purpose of a slot machine is to zone out and mindlessly try to get lucky and win.

People interested in something more engaging that they could control were already going to be playing poker, black jack, video poker etc.

I guess sort of an analogy would be a brothel that adds a skill component to spending time with it’s ladies.

You still have to pay, but you would have to throw game on them too & win their approval & pick them up prior to doing the deed.

[AxelWolf]

Skill based slots were doomed to fail because from a gambler’s standpoint the whole purpose of a slot machine is to zone out and mindlessly try to get lucky and win.

People interested in something more engaging that they could control were already going to be playing poker, black jack, video poker etc.

I guess sort of an analogy would be a brothel that adds a skill component to spending time with it’s ladies.

You still have to pay, but you would have to throw game on them too & win their approval & pick them up prior to doing the deed.

I think you're absolutely right.

[Dan Druff]

Skill based slots were doomed to fail because from a gambler’s standpoint the whole purpose of a slot machine is to zone out and mindlessly try to get lucky and win.

People interested in something more engaging that they could control were already going to be playing poker, black jack, video poker etc.

I guess sort of an analogy would be a brothel that adds a skill component to spending time with it’s ladies.

You still have to pay, but you would have to throw game on them too & win their approval & pick them up prior to doing the deed.

Bingo

Plus, the "skill" was something that people would develop via practice, and the casual Vegas visitor ain't puttin' in the time for that shit.

The "skill slot machine" 2010s fantasy was one cooked up by gaming execs who thought they understood millennials.

[DGenBen]

Skill based slots were doomed to fail because from a gambler’s standpoint the whole purpose of a slot machine is to zone out and mindlessly try to get lucky and win.

People interested in something more engaging that they could control were already going to be playing poker, black jack, video poker etc.

I guess sort of an analogy would be a brothel that adds a skill component to spending time with it’s ladies.

You still have to pay, but you would have to throw game on them too & win their approval & pick them up prior to doing the deed.

Bingo

Plus, the "skill" was something that people would develop via practice, and the casual Vegas visitor ain't puttin' in the time for that shit.

The "skill slot machine" 2010s fantasy was one cooked up by gaming execs who thought they understood millennials.

Exactly.

Although it is a bit different I see cashless gaming as a similar fantasy.

Casinos are pushing it they say primarily to attract younger customers.

It is a big benefit to casinos as it both reduces expenses and encourages more play, but your average degenerate or recreational player young or old knows it’s probably not a good idea to be playing slot machines with your bank account linked directly to the slot machine.

Right now it will be a niche market although its probably inevitable that sometime in the future it will be widely used.

But the industry has been overly optimistic on customer response to cashless gaming in the short term.

[MisterV]

Which leads to a question about "morality:" Should we Americans continue to allow corporations to market and induce people to pay for their addictive products, be it alcohol, tobacco or gambling?

What is the benefit to society, other than profit for the corporation?

[MDawg]

Money talks, B.S. walks.

Quit your incessant soft whine and go for the MDawg Challenge

[DGenBen]

Which leads to a question about "morality:" Should we Americans continue to allow corporations to market and induce people to pay for their addictive products, be it alcohol, tobacco or gambling?

What is the benefit to society, other than profit for the corporation?

Well Prohibition worked out well didn’t it?

So did the war on drugs?

I thought you were a Libertarian?

[Don Perignom]

I thought you were a Libertarian?

I don't pay much attention to what the Libertarian platform provides, I mainly vote that way to be contrarian, to discharge my "civic duty" of voting so that I can later bitch and whine about things with a clear conscience.

[MisterV]

Which leads to a question about "morality:" Should we Americans continue to allow corporations to market and induce people to pay for their addictive products, be it alcohol, tobacco or gambling?

What is the benefit to society, other than profit for the corporation?

Well Prohibition worked out well didn’t it?

So did the war on drugs?

I thought you were a Libertarian?

My beliefs aren't the issue, the issue is morality, which we judge individually.

[DGenBen]

Which leads to a question about "morality:" Should we Americans continue to allow corporations to market and induce people to pay for their addictive products, be it alcohol, tobacco or gambling?

What is the benefit to society, other than profit for the corporation?

Well Prohibition worked out well didn’t it?

So did the war on drugs?

I thought you were a Libertarian?

My beliefs aren't the issue, the issue is morality, which we judge individually.

It would be a perfect world if everyone worried about their own morality instead of trying to police the morality of what third parties do.