I think you asked a fair question, even though you are trying to be silly, arrogant and combative:

Originally Posted by redietz View Post
So Alan and Dan, if 8/5 JoB were the most common variant of video poker, would you be referring to it as "full pay?"
No, it's not. We all know that "full pay JOB" is 9/6 and we know that the casinos have downgraded their paytables. 8/5 Jacks would never be called "full pay" because it is now the dominant game at casinos such as Rincon.

Originally Posted by redietz View Post
I feel it's my job to remind people that there was a time, an era, longer than the present era, when "full pay" meant "full pay" -- not "most common variant."
Your job? Since when are you the video poker authority? I thought you sold sports betting tips? I also thought you rarely play video poker? Again, I think you should be raising these questions and making these statements over on The Wizard's forum.

Originally Posted by redietz View Post
It's also my job to remind people that 6/5 blackjack is a latecomer freak game that did not exist for the majority of casino existence in this country. At one time, there were "good gambles" -- as Binion used to say -- in Las Vegas casinos that were superior to what is available today. Without these comparisons, newcomers to the gambling scene would think that today's odds were yesterday's odds, and that today's comp systems were yesterday's comp systems, which is not the case. And this "not the case" is to the detriment of the players. What 50 years ago would have been considered playing the customer for a fool is now the widely accepted status quo both in terms of odds and comps.

The dominant monopolies, CET and MGM/Mandalay, have lowered the floor for gambling odds in Las Vegas. They, especially CET, have driven the changes in gambling odds.
I think you're coming late to the party redietz. You're not telling us anything new.