I am sick of the racist posts on here. :/

[kewlJ]

I will say this, there were no eggs at Sprouts Las Vegas today, and we wanted some. Is that due to Grump?

Do you not watch any news? Eggs are in short supply and very expensive when you can find them because of bird flu.

Be careful. It would be a shame to lose a valuable member of the forum and gambling community like you.

[MDawg]

It doesn't matter how many times any posts or comments or any facts are explained. After kew uses his sick, psychotic, one-track mind to twist & spin the meaning or truth of any issue into something more comfortable so that he can live with himself another miserable day, he will forever repeat those lies and claim everyone else has been similarly convinced.

He does this of course to make up for his self-loathing and extreme feeling of inferiority--and especially compared to mdawg for being successful in life and his reporting of winning at gambling, and because I had him publicly pegged as a fabrication-crazed phony right from the moment I read his first post. His relentless pursuit of attention and relevance in the virtual world combined with his having to live a real life of misery and failure brought on by weakness, being gay, serial lying, and a lack of education and street smarts, has all had a part in the creation of this bona fide forum laughing stock and whipping post.

I hope everyone enjoys the fool's demise and torment as much as me!

[DGenBen]

I will say this, there were no eggs at Sprouts Las Vegas today, and we wanted some. Is that due to Grump?

If I use logic on par right with the right then yes it is Trump's fault but also DEI.

Once these DEI people are gone then their positions will be auto-filled with teams of Trump voters, full of intelligence and critical thinking. All those white guys looking for a job sortin' eggs. Line-em up let dem boys finally make some money.

Hey .. Look at this Noem woman. She actually met the North Korean leader. Stared him right down.

Wait - no she didn't. She actually knew the people who would buy her book wouldn't question it.. but she wasn't smart enough to realize everyone else with have a clue would be on to her. Like she has no real idea how the real world worked. Amazing stuff. Our new leadership.

So yea.. Trump and DEI. We're in a clownworld and I'm in for the ride.

Actually the clownworld part isn’t so much the election of Trump as it is the candidates the Democrats have been running against him for the past 12 years.

[DGenBen]

Tasha……is this you that wrote this on Quora?

“ Mine is not fiction, and is one of many that I have liked. Over the last few years, I have come to enjoy going to the grocery (some already know this). There are several stores I like to go to. I had heard that Walmart was a favorite among those that do these things. I wanted to try it.

I was kinda full, but not holding hard, which told me that it was likely pretty firm. Once in the store, I surveyed the situation. I decided the place to be was in the automotive section, which is pretty far from the bathroom. You see, I know that, once my panties are full, I should dump it, and leave the store. By being far away, it would allow a long walk to the bathroom, with my poop in my panties, which I do like to do.

There I was, looking at engine oil or something. I stood there and began to relax, knowing that, at any moment, it would begin to slide out of me. I also knew it would take some pushing to get it started, so I began a gentle push. Time-wise, it took about a minute to get started, and two more before I could stop pushing. Another, and it was all the way out. I waited for a moment to relish in the sensations, then began my trek to the bathroom. On the way, I realized that this one was particularly firm, like a rod, and had dropped to one side, touching my thigh. It seemed to be about 7 or 8″ long, and felt particularly awesome walking like that. I did not dare try to touch it - someone would see and suspect what I had done… so I had no idea what it was REALLY like.

it seems like an eternity reaching the bathroom, to empty my panties, and I pushed on the door. It didn’t seem to open - guess it is stuck, so I pushed harder. It still didn’t open! What was going on??? Then I saw the sign — something about maintenance or some such and sorry and inconvenience…

Now what was I gonna do?? Here I am, in a huge Walmart store, standing at the door of a bathroom, with my panties absolutely full of poop!!! Inconvenient??? it sure is!! I went into a panic; what can I do?? Once calm a little, I thought sensibly. There is another bathroom - that one cannot be closed; I think it would be against the law to close both. But this one is all the way across this big store, not a short walk, and with customers and associates all over the place. I had this huge poop in my panties. My thinking went from ‘yes’ you must do it’ to ‘no, I can’t possibly; I would be caught literally with my panties full’. I pondered for a time, and came to realized that the only way was to take the other long walk to that bathroom. I stirred my courage, stood there for another moment, to relish in the feel of this bulge, and set out.

I think that must have been the longest walk I ever took to a bathroom! It seemed to take forever, while dodging customers in one isle, and workers in another. In spite of everything, I enjoyed every step of the length of that store…

Did I make it?? Yea, she did; wondering all the way if someone was gonna tap her on the shoulder.

Yes, she made it. The relief of just opening that door was tremendous.

Fortunately, my poop was very firm (as expected) and not messy, even after that extra long walk. I dumped it, flushed to make sure it disappeared. I was home free, and safe….”

That is a very entertaining story. I was curios if it was really from Quora so I did a search but could not locate it.

However while searching for it, this story popped up in Reddit which is also similarly entertaining:

“ I worked at Walmart about 20 years ago, being the manager of the photo lab before digital took over. So my department was right next to the electronics department. I'm chatting with the manager of the electronics department, and all of a sudden we hear a woman yell "here it comes!"

We then see a middle aged woman frantically scuttling down the aisle, holding her shorts near the back. She ran to the restroom, leaving a trail of liquid shit behind her. It looked like when a dog is sick and you're trying to get them out the door before they make a mess all over your carpet, and they keep stopping to shit every few seconds.

An employee went in with a pair of pants off the shelf to help out. She put them on and made a beeline toward the exit without paying for them, leaving her soiled shorts in the stall on the floor.”

It’s definitely one way to get free pants!

I’ve heard too that if you are ever about to get arrested and the crime is relatively minor, one last ditch effort to avoid arrest is to drop a load in your pants so that the officer decides to just cite and release you rather than transporting you in their car.

However I’ve also heard this is a myth so who knows?

[accountinquestion]

I will say this, there were no eggs at Sprouts Las Vegas today, and we wanted some. Is that due to Grump?

If I use logic on par right with the right then yes it is Trump's fault but also DEI.

Once these DEI people are gone then their positions will be auto-filled with teams of Trump voters, full of intelligence and critical thinking. All those white guys looking for a job sortin' eggs. Line-em up let dem boys finally make some money.

Hey .. Look at this Noem woman. She actually met the North Korean leader. Stared him right down.

Wait - no she didn't. She actually knew the people who would buy her book wouldn't question it.. but she wasn't smart enough to realize everyone else with have a clue would be on to her. Like she has no real idea how the real world worked. Amazing stuff. Our new leadership.

So yea.. Trump and DEI. We're in a clownworld and I'm in for the ride.

Actually the clownworld part isn’t so much the election of Trump as it is the candidates the Democrats have been running against him for the past 12 years.

Meh. They were competent at least. Biden needed to die though. I hated Hillary but at least she'd be competent.

I kinda like what RFK may accomplish if he wasn't such a weirdo. Some say the mercury for the brain worm treatments did it. Maybe the heroin? But the dude just loves attention. We'll see.

This Kash guy. All this stuff is payoff for being a party supporter and Dems do it too but I read about the backgrounds of these people.

That pretty woman who comes from the cult. She just does whatever to stay elected. The level of flip-flopping. She is far too simple to be tasked with the job she was given. She's another one of those whose family speaks out against her. They know what she is really about. Go look at the flimsy ass reasons she gave for moving over to Republicans. It is just pandering speak with no real substance. Just playing an audience or she was just too begin with to know any better?

Most Democrats at least had real jobs managing real things - these Trump people never even bothered with it and spent their time kissing as to the top and nothing. Given that is all Trump looks for - that is all we're getting. It is a real shame.

[DGenBen]

If I use logic on par right with the right then yes it is Trump's fault but also DEI.

Once these DEI people are gone then their positions will be auto-filled with teams of Trump voters, full of intelligence and critical thinking. All those white guys looking for a job sortin' eggs. Line-em up let dem boys finally make some money.

Hey .. Look at this Noem woman. She actually met the North Korean leader. Stared him right down.

Wait - no she didn't. She actually knew the people who would buy her book wouldn't question it.. but she wasn't smart enough to realize everyone else with have a clue would be on to her. Like she has no real idea how the real world worked. Amazing stuff. Our new leadership.

So yea.. Trump and DEI. We're in a clownworld and I'm in for the ride.

Actually the clownworld part isn’t so much the election of Trump as it is the candidates the Democrats have been running against him for the past 12 years.

Meh. They were competent at least. Biden needed to die though. I hated Hillary but at least she'd be competent.

I kinda like what RFK may accomplish if he wasn't such a weirdo. Some say the mercury for the brain worm treatments did it. Maybe the heroin? But the dude just loves attention. We'll see.

This Kash guy. All this stuff is payoff for being a party supporter and Dems do it too but I read about the backgrounds of these people.

That pretty woman who comes from the cult. She just does whatever to stay elected. The level of flip-flopping. She is far too simple to be tasked with the job she was given. She's another one of those whose family speaks out against her. They know what she is really about. Go look at the flimsy ass reasons she gave for moving over to Republicans. It is just pandering speak with no real substance. Just playing an audience or she was just too begin with to know any better?

Most Democrats at least had real jobs managing real things - these Trump people never even bothered with it and spent their time kissing as to the top and nothing. Given that is all Trump looks for - that is all we're getting. It is a real shame.

That is an interesting statement that most Democrats had real jobs managing real things.

Trump managed real businesses. Kamala - A life time politician & career prosecutor. Biden - a lifetime politician. Hillary - a lifetime politician & attorney & author & First Lady.

[accountinquestion]

Actually the clownworld part isn’t so much the election of Trump as it is the candidates the Democrats have been running against him for the past 12 years.

Meh. They were competent at least. Biden needed to die though. I hated Hillary but at least she'd be competent.

I kinda like what RFK may accomplish if he wasn't such a weirdo. Some say the mercury for the brain worm treatments did it. Maybe the heroin? But the dude just loves attention. We'll see.

This Kash guy. All this stuff is payoff for being a party supporter and Dems do it too but I read about the backgrounds of these people.

That pretty woman who comes from the cult. She just does whatever to stay elected. The level of flip-flopping. She is far too simple to be tasked with the job she was given. She's another one of those whose family speaks out against her. They know what she is really about. Go look at the flimsy ass reasons she gave for moving over to Republicans. It is just pandering speak with no real substance. Just playing an audience or she was just too begin with to know any better?

Most Democrats at least had real jobs managing real things - these Trump people never even bothered with it and spent their time kissing as to the top and nothing. Given that is all Trump looks for - that is all we're getting. It is a real shame.

That is an interesting statement that most Democrats had real jobs managing real things.

Trump managed real businesses. Kamala - A life time politician & career prosecutor. Biden - a lifetime politician. Hillary - a lifetime politician & attorney & author & First Lady.

I was talking more about appointees. I didnt defend biden or hillary directly.
Trump has had multiple bankruptcies and trump uni was predatory crap. He was handed a fortune to start with. Bondi got off the prosecution bandwagon of that one when trump gave her $$$$.

This idea Trump looks out for anything but himself and maintaining power is a bit lol but his followers will believe anything.

[accountinquestion]

All I know is if I was to make a business selling trinkets of some sort - the Trump supporter mailing list would be a solid start.

[DGenBen]

Meh. They were competent at least. Biden needed to die though. I hated Hillary but at least she'd be competent.

I kinda like what RFK may accomplish if he wasn't such a weirdo. Some say the mercury for the brain worm treatments did it. Maybe the heroin? But the dude just loves attention. We'll see.

This Kash guy. All this stuff is payoff for being a party supporter and Dems do it too but I read about the backgrounds of these people.

That pretty woman who comes from the cult. She just does whatever to stay elected. The level of flip-flopping. She is far too simple to be tasked with the job she was given. She's another one of those whose family speaks out against her. They know what she is really about. Go look at the flimsy ass reasons she gave for moving over to Republicans. It is just pandering speak with no real substance. Just playing an audience or she was just too begin with to know any better?

Most Democrats at least had real jobs managing real things - these Trump people never even bothered with it and spent their time kissing as to the top and nothing. Given that is all Trump looks for - that is all we're getting. It is a real shame.

That is an interesting statement that most Democrats had real jobs managing real things.

Trump managed real businesses. Kamala - A life time politician & career prosecutor. Biden - a lifetime politician. Hillary - a lifetime politician & attorney & author & First Lady.

I was talking more about appointees. I didnt defend biden or hillary directly.
Trump has had multiple bankruptcies and trump uni was predatory crap. He was handed a fortune to start with. Bondi got off the prosecution bandwagon of that one when trump gave her $$$$.

This idea Trump looks out for anything but himself and maintaining power is a bit lol but his followers will believe anything.

I get it, to be honest both parties & both candidates were / are shit.

But looking at the big picture and forgetting about just lobbing shit at the party you don’t like:

I like that Trump is antiwar and anti-foreign entanglements. Hope he keeps that up. Shaking up the Federal Bureaucracy is not a bad thing at this point whether he does it for himself or not.

Three letter agencies & government bureaucracy is / are out of control and who’s going to fix that? Dems? Hahahaha.

If he’s offensive and full of bullshit I don’t care just on these two issues alone.

Democrats are inoffensive, politically correct, & talk a good game about being for the little guy, but what policies do they actually enact? Endless wars (along with the neocons) endless regulation & government overreach, moving us towards becoming a police state (As do many Republicans)?

No one cares anymore about what politicians say or how they come off. They care about the tangible things like no more endless wars, reduced government spending, lower prices etc. etc.

At this point he could wear a swastika, grow a Charlie Chaplin mustache and just speak solely in four letter curse words and racial epithets but if he gets the major tangibles moving in the right direction he will continue to have majority support,

[Rob.Singer]

All you're doing is causing a major flare-up of TDS.

And it's a beautiful thing!

[accountinquestion]

All you're doing is causing a major flare-up of TDS.

And it's a beautiful thing!

If that's what you wish to tell yourself but I think if you look at deranged and read your posts an outside observer would say you have TDS.

[accountinquestion]

That is an interesting statement that most Democrats had real jobs managing real things.

Trump managed real businesses. Kamala - A life time politician & career prosecutor. Biden - a lifetime politician. Hillary - a lifetime politician & attorney & author & First Lady.

I was talking more about appointees. I didnt defend biden or hillary directly.
Trump has had multiple bankruptcies and trump uni was predatory crap. He was handed a fortune to start with. Bondi got off the prosecution bandwagon of that one when trump gave her $$$$.

This idea Trump looks out for anything but himself and maintaining power is a bit lol but his followers will believe anything.

I get it, to be honest both parties & both candidates were / are shit.

But looking at the big picture and forgetting about just lobbing shit at the party you don’t like:

I like that Trump is antiwar and anti-foreign entanglements. Hope he keeps that up. Shaking up the Federal Bureaucracy is not a bad thing at this point whether he does it for himself or not.

Three letter agencies & government bureaucracy is / are out of control and who’s going to fix that? Dems? Hahahaha.

If he’s offensive and full of bullshit I don’t care just on these two issues alone.

Democrats are inoffensive, politically correct, & talk a good game about being for the little guy, but what policies do they actually enact? Endless wars (along with the neocons) endless regulation & government overreach, moving us towards becoming a police state (As do many Republicans)?

No one cares anymore about what politicians say or how they come off. They care about the tangible things like no more endless wars, reduced government spending, lower prices etc. etc.

At this point he could wear a swastika, grow a Charlie Chaplin mustache and just speak solely in four letter curse words and racial epithets but if he gets the major tangibles moving in the right direction he will continue to have majority support,

I agree about Trump being anti-war but I don't know if that's the right move with Putin. With Israel it clearly was. The problem with Putin is you have no clear idea where it will stop. Fucked if you do and fucked if you don't. Israel has dug their own grave IMO.

The shaking up federal bureaucracy is something I tend to believe he can also do.

Endless regulation. I tend to believe the regulation is good but big business has a huge interest in sending the message of its evil because it slows down their accumulation of wealth. (It also keeps smaller players from getting in... that's also quite bad) Moving us towards a police state - I'd say Republicans are more about that. The weird shit where you rat on your neighbor if they had an abortion and can get paid when you had nothing to do with it???? Republicans look aside but thats as hardcore police state as anything in my lifetime. All the get the cops off people's backs are pretty much liberal cities. (Very often to their detriment). I feel you have that one completely wrong and don't think we'd agree at all. There isn't that much protecting people or the Earth itself from being poisoned. Or any of the numerous ways the monied can fuck the non-monied.

The problem with lowering prices is that tariffs are mostly going to go in the opposite direction. So instead of a normal war, you have a trade war. A trade war tends to impact the lower classes. It literally becomes a backdoor tax on the lower classes. Couple that with Trump wanting to lower taxes for wealthy. Thats the biggest problem - we hear about reduced government spending but never increasing taxes on wealthy. Due to basic math, the rich have a discretionary income that is far far larger than working class people. They simply don't/can't spend what they make. Then given compound interest the accumulate a larger portion of the wealth which they in then have to invest it. Well they run out of shit to invest in. And what they can invest in has to maintain returns which in late stage capitalism almost always means taking value away from the consumer. There aren't many advances left. So they sit around and think about how they can provide less and charge more. All the ENDLESS stories about how private equity makes things shitty for everyone. Of course the rich can ignore these issues through various means.

Then you have the standard Trump support who as Steinbeck said, 'the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires'. So true.

The effect is that it rigs the game so lower classes can't even buy homes anymore. They work their knuckles bloody trying to get ahead. You can still do it in this country but it is so hard. It wont' get any better under someone like Trump. We have to have an income tax that is far more top heavy or a wealth tax for the very wealthy. Otherwise this shit will keep happening. The game becomes increasingly rigged. The media as it is just works to make working class people hate each other. It is crazy to me that so much of the thought is based on entitlement. Once you go down the path of the left or right you just see endless senses of entitlement all through differently tinted glasses.

Trump will not fix this. He's won by blaming the brown man. They aren't totally wrong. We have to stop immigration too. Too many trashy people setting up here. Or people who don't have our values. Although Trump followers seem to often be anti-education but somehow think we can compete globally without it. Contrast this with China or asian countries. Our time at the top is rapidly winding down.

Anyway Trump is the opposite of the solution for this. Immigration , shaking up bureaucracy, and forcing NATO to pay more seem to be things I can kinda get behind. I'm just not sure the bureaucracy is such a bad thing. That's what keeps planes from crashing and shit like that. Trump doesn't even want to pay for basic infrastructure.

And this isn't even touching on the 'drill baby drill' shit. 2 years back to back global heating records. I called how bad it was about to get 2-3 years ago and was mocked by the weird with the dick fetish and Crimm. That alone makes it very hard to get behind. Trump doesn't like windmills because they make his property look bad. He isn't looking out for anyone. He's a completely petty wannabe tyrant. Those who still worship him - well good for you but it has become quite apparent what sort of person you are in various ways. Not really worth attacking Trump directly. Everyone knows who he is by now except for a few... as you see witnessing this forum.

Ultimately hes just too corrupt to do the job.

I have a friend who applied at Tesla. They said 60-70 hour weeks if you work here bub. Thats because they have a ton of immigrants on those h2b visas (or whatever the name). Thats why Elon loves it so much. I guess we get cheaper cars but they also just had a huge margin. But anyway, this goes to show you how Elon runs business but hes now in charge of our government.

Good game.

[MisterV]

The solution to the energy issue, at least til cold fusion is mastered, has to be nuclear power.

There have been many advancements in technology since the early days, and engineers learn by mistake.

BUT (it's a big but) there needs to be a permanent, designated depository for all spent nuclear fuel to make it viable.

In a perfect world they could build only a few massive nuclear power plants, one for each region of the country, but without superconducting wires (not developed yet) too much electricity would be lost if transmitted long distance on the current grid.

[accountinquestion]

Now we have people coming up who see such a bleak world they're like fuck this. Why work hard anymore? Look at what these assholes have given me. Look at how hard I have to work to have a place to live. Trump isn't doing anything to help that. Ok, lower bureacracy.. but ultimately to whose advantage? So banks can make more money through various means?

People not wanting to work so hard makes sense. You'll need to spend 60 hours a week working for Elon or whatever. why bother? Enjoy your life. I sure don't blame them.

Why have children? I have friends on the right who feel so entitled and they're angry about it. Too many non-whites. But hey if you get math+trends and see drill baby drill then the writing is on the wall. It is just fucked. You'll always be able to find a room somewhere. Why bother with the stress of a mortgage? Why would you ever want to have kids? This is going to screw the future because our whole system has relied on growth so that those now get to spend the $ of the future generations. There are so many reasons we're screwed and I'm a doomer. People just do not have the capacity to care for others or behave in a collective manner. Always me me. So much entitlement. They expect the future generations to keep moving along but whats the incentive with such bleakness?

[DGenBen]

I was talking more about appointees. I didnt defend biden or hillary directly.
Trump has had multiple bankruptcies and trump uni was predatory crap. He was handed a fortune to start with. Bondi got off the prosecution bandwagon of that one when trump gave her $$$$.

This idea Trump looks out for anything but himself and maintaining power is a bit lol but his followers will believe anything.

I get it, to be honest both parties & both candidates were / are shit.

But looking at the big picture and forgetting about just lobbing shit at the party you don’t like:

I like that Trump is antiwar and anti-foreign entanglements. Hope he keeps that up. Shaking up the Federal Bureaucracy is not a bad thing at this point whether he does it for himself or not.

Three letter agencies & government bureaucracy is / are out of control and who’s going to fix that? Dems? Hahahaha.

If he’s offensive and full of bullshit I don’t care just on these two issues alone.

Democrats are inoffensive, politically correct, & talk a good game about being for the little guy, but what policies do they actually enact? Endless wars (along with the neocons) endless regulation & government overreach, moving us towards becoming a police state (As do many Republicans)?

No one cares anymore about what politicians say or how they come off. They care about the tangible things like no more endless wars, reduced government spending, lower prices etc. etc.

At this point he could wear a swastika, grow a Charlie Chaplin mustache and just speak solely in four letter curse words and racial epithets but if he gets the major tangibles moving in the right direction he will continue to have majority support,

I agree about Trump being anti-war but I don't know if that's the right move with Putin. With Israel it clearly was. The problem with Putin is you have no clear idea where it will stop. Fucked if you do and fucked if you don't. Israel has dug their own grave IMO.

The shaking up federal bureaucracy is something I tend to believe he can also do.

Endless regulation. I tend to believe the regulation is good but big business has a huge interest in sending the message of its evil because it slows down their accumulation of wealth. (It also keeps smaller players from getting in... that's also quite bad) Moving us towards a police state - I'd say Republicans are more about that. The weird shit where you rat on your neighbor if they had an abortion and can get paid when you had nothing to do with it???? Republicans look aside but thats as hardcore police state as anything in my lifetime. All the get the cops off people's backs are pretty much liberal cities. (Very often to their detriment). I feel you have that one completely wrong and don't think we'd agree at all. There isn't that much protecting people or the Earth itself from being poisoned. Or any of the numerous ways the monied can fuck the non-monied.

The problem with lowering prices is that tariffs are mostly going to go in the opposite direction. So instead of a normal war, you have a trade war. A trade war tends to impact the lower classes. It literally becomes a backdoor tax on the lower classes. Couple that with Trump wanting to lower taxes for wealthy. Thats the biggest problem - we hear about reduced government spending but never increasing taxes on wealthy. Due to basic math, the rich have a discretionary income that is far far larger than working class people. They simply don't/can't spend what they make. Then given compound interest the accumulate a larger portion of the wealth which they in then have to invest it. Well they run out of shit to invest in. And what they can invest in has to maintain returns which in late stage capitalism almost always means taking value away from the consumer. There aren't many advances left. So they sit around and think about how they can provide less and charge more. All the ENDLESS stories about how private equity makes things shitty for everyone. Of course the rich can ignore these issues through various means.

Then you have the standard Trump support who as Steinbeck said, 'the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires'. So true.

The effect is that it rigs the game so lower classes can't even buy homes anymore. They work their knuckles bloody trying to get ahead. You can still do it in this country but it is so hard. It wont' get any better under someone like Trump. We have to have an income tax that is far more top heavy or a wealth tax for the very wealthy. Otherwise this shit will keep happening. The game becomes increasingly rigged. The media as it is just works to make working class people hate each other. It is crazy to me that so much of the thought is based on entitlement. Once you go down the path of the left or right you just see endless senses of entitlement all through differently tinted glasses.

Trump will not fix this. He's won by blaming the brown man. They aren't totally wrong. We have to stop immigration too. Too many trashy people setting up here. Or people who don't have our values. Although Trump followers seem to often be anti-education but somehow think we can compete globally without it. Contrast this with China or asian countries. Our time at the top is rapidly winding down.

Anyway Trump is the opposite of the solution for this. Immigration , shaking up bureaucracy, and forcing NATO to pay more seem to be things I can kinda get behind. I'm just not sure the bureaucracy is such a bad thing. That's what keeps planes from crashing and shit like that. Trump doesn't even want to pay for basic infrastructure.

And this isn't even touching on the 'drill baby drill' shit. 2 years back to back global heating records. I called how bad it was about to get 2-3 years ago and was mocked by the weird with the dick fetish and Crimm. That alone makes it very hard to get behind. Trump doesn't like windmills because they make his property look bad. He isn't looking out for anyone. He's a completely petty wannabe tyrant. Those who still worship him - well good for you but it has become quite apparent what sort of person you are in various ways. Not really worth attacking Trump directly. Everyone knows who he is by now except for a few... as you see witnessing this forum.

Ultimately hes just too corrupt to do the job.

I have a friend who applied at Tesla. They said 60-70 hour weeks if you work here bub. Thats because they have a ton of immigrants on those h2b visas (or whatever the name). Thats why Elon loves it so much. I guess we get cheaper cars but they also just had a huge margin. But anyway, this goes to show you how Elon runs business but hes now in charge of our government.

Good game.

Part of the problem is that people still talk in terms of Democrats, Republicans, liberals, conservatives, & Trump.

They all have some overlapping & some totally different philosophies & lines between all are blurred.

This is why it’s best now to focus on specific outcomes & policies that people want, ie lower prices etc.

Because talking in terms of Trump this and liberals that etc. is essentially starting to become meaningless.

[accountinquestion]

I get it, to be honest both parties & both candidates were / are shit.

But looking at the big picture and forgetting about just lobbing shit at the party you don’t like:

I like that Trump is antiwar and anti-foreign entanglements. Hope he keeps that up. Shaking up the Federal Bureaucracy is not a bad thing at this point whether he does it for himself or not.

Three letter agencies & government bureaucracy is / are out of control and who’s going to fix that? Dems? Hahahaha.

If he’s offensive and full of bullshit I don’t care just on these two issues alone.

Democrats are inoffensive, politically correct, & talk a good game about being for the little guy, but what policies do they actually enact? Endless wars (along with the neocons) endless regulation & government overreach, moving us towards becoming a police state (As do many Republicans)?

No one cares anymore about what politicians say or how they come off. They care about the tangible things like no more endless wars, reduced government spending, lower prices etc. etc.

At this point he could wear a swastika, grow a Charlie Chaplin mustache and just speak solely in four letter curse words and racial epithets but if he gets the major tangibles moving in the right direction he will continue to have majority support,

I agree about Trump being anti-war but I don't know if that's the right move with Putin. With Israel it clearly was. The problem with Putin is you have no clear idea where it will stop. Fucked if you do and fucked if you don't. Israel has dug their own grave IMO.

The shaking up federal bureaucracy is something I tend to believe he can also do.

Endless regulation. I tend to believe the regulation is good but big business has a huge interest in sending the message of its evil because it slows down their accumulation of wealth. (It also keeps smaller players from getting in... that's also quite bad) Moving us towards a police state - I'd say Republicans are more about that. The weird shit where you rat on your neighbor if they had an abortion and can get paid when you had nothing to do with it???? Republicans look aside but thats as hardcore police state as anything in my lifetime. All the get the cops off people's backs are pretty much liberal cities. (Very often to their detriment). I feel you have that one completely wrong and don't think we'd agree at all. There isn't that much protecting people or the Earth itself from being poisoned. Or any of the numerous ways the monied can fuck the non-monied.

The problem with lowering prices is that tariffs are mostly going to go in the opposite direction. So instead of a normal war, you have a trade war. A trade war tends to impact the lower classes. It literally becomes a backdoor tax on the lower classes. Couple that with Trump wanting to lower taxes for wealthy. Thats the biggest problem - we hear about reduced government spending but never increasing taxes on wealthy. Due to basic math, the rich have a discretionary income that is far far larger than working class people. They simply don't/can't spend what they make. Then given compound interest the accumulate a larger portion of the wealth which they in then have to invest it. Well they run out of shit to invest in. And what they can invest in has to maintain returns which in late stage capitalism almost always means taking value away from the consumer. There aren't many advances left. So they sit around and think about how they can provide less and charge more. All the ENDLESS stories about how private equity makes things shitty for everyone. Of course the rich can ignore these issues through various means.

Then you have the standard Trump support who as Steinbeck said, 'the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires'. So true.

The effect is that it rigs the game so lower classes can't even buy homes anymore. They work their knuckles bloody trying to get ahead. You can still do it in this country but it is so hard. It wont' get any better under someone like Trump. We have to have an income tax that is far more top heavy or a wealth tax for the very wealthy. Otherwise this shit will keep happening. The game becomes increasingly rigged. The media as it is just works to make working class people hate each other. It is crazy to me that so much of the thought is based on entitlement. Once you go down the path of the left or right you just see endless senses of entitlement all through differently tinted glasses.

Trump will not fix this. He's won by blaming the brown man. They aren't totally wrong. We have to stop immigration too. Too many trashy people setting up here. Or people who don't have our values. Although Trump followers seem to often be anti-education but somehow think we can compete globally without it. Contrast this with China or asian countries. Our time at the top is rapidly winding down.

Anyway Trump is the opposite of the solution for this. Immigration , shaking up bureaucracy, and forcing NATO to pay more seem to be things I can kinda get behind. I'm just not sure the bureaucracy is such a bad thing. That's what keeps planes from crashing and shit like that. Trump doesn't even want to pay for basic infrastructure.

And this isn't even touching on the 'drill baby drill' shit. 2 years back to back global heating records. I called how bad it was about to get 2-3 years ago and was mocked by the weird with the dick fetish and Crimm. That alone makes it very hard to get behind. Trump doesn't like windmills because they make his property look bad. He isn't looking out for anyone. He's a completely petty wannabe tyrant. Those who still worship him - well good for you but it has become quite apparent what sort of person you are in various ways. Not really worth attacking Trump directly. Everyone knows who he is by now except for a few... as you see witnessing this forum.

Ultimately hes just too corrupt to do the job.

I have a friend who applied at Tesla. They said 60-70 hour weeks if you work here bub. Thats because they have a ton of immigrants on those h2b visas (or whatever the name). Thats why Elon loves it so much. I guess we get cheaper cars but they also just had a huge margin. But anyway, this goes to show you how Elon runs business but hes now in charge of our government.

Good game.

Part of the problem is that people still talk in terms of Democrats, Republicans, liberals, conservatives, & Trump.

They all have some overlapping & some totally different philosophies & lines between all are blurred.

This is why it’s best now to focus on specific outcomes & policies that people want, ie lower prices etc.

Because talking in terms of Trump this and liberals that etc. is essentially starting to become meaningless.

I sorta agree but I still think Trump is totally worth a distinction. It isn't worth it to say oh orange man bad or whatever, but yea, the distinctions need to be pointed out ,..

Like ... and he appointed this person because why? Ohhhhh they apologized for calling him Hitler and now call him the greatest... I see.

There is a huge distinction. He's going down the path of oligarches and totally giving up on the american dream. Ok, we bring back manufacturing jobs but that is just as much to shore up our country for the wealthy as it is to help the working class. They still will have a hard time affording anything. Private Equity will still come through and destroy every positive aspect of anything they get their hands on so they can deliver the bare minimum.

[kewlJ]

he will continue to have majority support,

At no time has Trump EVER had the majority support of Americans.

[MisterV]

he will continue to have majority support,

At no time has Trump EVER had the majority support of Americans.

Depends how you define the term: he DID win the popular vote.

[Rob.Singer]

I was talking more about appointees. I didnt defend biden or hillary directly.
Trump has had multiple bankruptcies and trump uni was predatory crap. He was handed a fortune to start with. Bondi got off the prosecution bandwagon of that one when trump gave her $$$$.

This idea Trump looks out for anything but himself and maintaining power is a bit lol but his followers will believe anything.

I get it, to be honest both parties & both candidates were / are shit.

But looking at the big picture and forgetting about just lobbing shit at the party you don’t like:

I like that Trump is antiwar and anti-foreign entanglements. Hope he keeps that up. Shaking up the Federal Bureaucracy is not a bad thing at this point whether he does it for himself or not.

Three letter agencies & government bureaucracy is / are out of control and who’s going to fix that? Dems? Hahahaha.

If he’s offensive and full of bullshit I don’t care just on these two issues alone.

Democrats are inoffensive, politically correct, & talk a good game about being for the little guy, but what policies do they actually enact? Endless wars (along with the neocons) endless regulation & government overreach, moving us towards becoming a police state (As do many Republicans)?

No one cares anymore about what politicians say or how they come off. They care about the tangible things like no more endless wars, reduced government spending, lower prices etc. etc.

At this point he could wear a swastika, grow a Charlie Chaplin mustache and just speak solely in four letter curse words and racial epithets but if he gets the major tangibles moving in the right direction he will continue to have majority support,

I agree about Trump being anti-war but I don't know if that's the right move with Putin. With Israel it clearly was. The problem with Putin is you have no clear idea where it will stop. Fucked if you do and fucked if you don't. Israel has dug their own grave IMO.

The shaking up federal bureaucracy is something I tend to believe he can also do.

Endless regulation. I tend to believe the regulation is good but big business has a huge interest in sending the message of its evil because it slows down their accumulation of wealth. (It also keeps smaller players from getting in... that's also quite bad) Moving us towards a police state - I'd say Republicans are more about that. The weird shit where you rat on your neighbor if they had an abortion and can get paid when you had nothing to do with it???? Republicans look aside but thats as hardcore police state as anything in my lifetime. All the get the cops off people's backs are pretty much liberal cities. (Very often to their detriment). I feel you have that one completely wrong and don't think we'd agree at all. There isn't that much protecting people or the Earth itself from being poisoned. Or any of the numerous ways the monied can fuck the non-monied.

The problem with lowering prices is that tariffs are mostly going to go in the opposite direction. So instead of a normal war, you have a trade war. A trade war tends to impact the lower classes. It literally becomes a backdoor tax on the lower classes. Couple that with Trump wanting to lower taxes for wealthy. Thats the biggest problem - we hear about reduced government spending but never increasing taxes on wealthy. Due to basic math, the rich have a discretionary income that is far far larger than working class people. They simply don't/can't spend what they make. Then given compound interest the accumulate a larger portion of the wealth which they in then have to invest it. Well they run out of shit to invest in. And what they can invest in has to maintain returns which in late stage capitalism almost always means taking value away from the consumer. There aren't many advances left. So they sit around and think about how they can provide less and charge more. All the ENDLESS stories about how private equity makes things shitty for everyone. Of course the rich can ignore these issues through various means.

Then you have the standard Trump support who as Steinbeck said, 'the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires'. So true.

The effect is that it rigs the game so lower classes can't even buy homes anymore. They work their knuckles bloody trying to get ahead. You can still do it in this country but it is so hard. It wont' get any better under someone like Trump. We have to have an income tax that is far more top heavy or a wealth tax for the very wealthy. Otherwise this shit will keep happening. The game becomes increasingly rigged. The media as it is just works to make working class people hate each other. It is crazy to me that so much of the thought is based on entitlement. Once you go down the path of the left or right you just see endless senses of entitlement all through differently tinted glasses.

Trump will not fix this. He's won by blaming the brown man. They aren't totally wrong. We have to stop immigration too. Too many trashy people setting up here. Or people who don't have our values. Although Trump followers seem to often be anti-education but somehow think we can compete globally without it. Contrast this with China or asian countries. Our time at the top is rapidly winding down.

Anyway Trump is the opposite of the solution for this. Immigration , shaking up bureaucracy, and forcing NATO to pay more seem to be things I can kinda get behind. I'm just not sure the bureaucracy is such a bad thing. That's what keeps planes from crashing and shit like that. Trump doesn't even want to pay for basic infrastructure.

And this isn't even touching on the 'drill baby drill' shit. 2 years back to back global heating records. I called how bad it was about to get 2-3 years ago and was mocked by the weird with the dick fetish and Crimm. That alone makes it very hard to get behind. Trump doesn't like windmills because they make his property look bad. He isn't looking out for anyone. He's a completely petty wannabe tyrant. Those who still worship him - well good for you but it has become quite apparent what sort of person you are in various ways. Not really worth attacking Trump directly. Everyone knows who he is by now except for a few... as you see witnessing this forum.

Ultimately hes just too corrupt to do the job.

I have a friend who applied at Tesla. They said 60-70 hour weeks if you work here bub. Thats because they have a ton of immigrants on those h2b visas (or whatever the name). Thats why Elon loves it so much. I guess we get cheaper cars but they also just had a huge margin. But anyway, this goes to show you how Elon runs business but hes now in charge of our government.

Good game.

You just told us in far too many words how little you know about people and world, likely because of an inadequate education along with never having been anywhere.

Not unlike most alarmist greenies, really, and a carbon copy of those horrified by the way Trump is going about saving our nation and putting a sense of reason back into our government.

And I KNOW you're liking it.

[kewlJ]

he will continue to have majority support,

At no time has Trump EVER had the majority support of Americans.

Depends how you define the term: he DID win the popular vote.

That is a plurality. A majority is 50%+1. He did come close, but it remains that at no time, has he won a majority. And I know our republican friends will disagree because of the current situation, but I think it is very problematic for a minority of voters to continually be able to win elections an wield power. And the same would be true if the democrats were able to do so.