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    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
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    FYI it was Fankie who started the show and brought on Dancer.

    Take this for what it's worth since it is hearsay.

    Several of Fanky's confidants were very angry with Bob and they claimed Bob pushed Franki out and took over the show.
    Yes, I know. I talked to Frank over the phone about it when it happened.

    Here's a thought, mickey. Actually read what Dancer has written in his own blog. Rather than say "I heard."

    Unger dumped money on live poker? Not if he wasn't gooned up to the gills. Where did you "hear" that? You must have a private library with that info. I've read most of what has been written (not on forums) vis-a-vis Unger. And I know someone who came up with him in the Catskills when they were both playing cards with the wealthy while working at the resorts. I sat next to the guy and his wife in the Imperial Palace sports book on Sundays for years. They had a booth. I was at the table immediately above and adjacent to them. The wife was wealthy.

    But I'm sure Mickey knows better, having "heard" it.

    Anything else you "hear," mickey? You sure you're not "hearing things?"

    Munchkin knows very well how I feel about "Leonardo Da AP" stuff. His raison d'etre seems to be to speculate if he thinks he has an edge that has not been historically established. My raison d'etre is to wager lunch money or less until something has been established, with an eye to understanding that sports betting is transience-in-motion and anything "established" today could be completely ephemeral. I understand Munchkin's perspective in that his family/"family" has had money and he's always had a hefty safety net. My better half was in the same situation, if you get my drift.

    But being from a working class family and never having had financial back-up myself, I have always taken a "bet what you know you can win at" approach. I'm not into labeling "my opinion" as "EV." Doing so is arrogant beyond belief. And completely subjective. And reeks of imprecision, which is the opposite of what using a term like "EV" should be.
    I read Dancer's blog every week. Do you? There's a paywall there these days.

    As for Unger. You really know how to step in it, dude. The guy that wrote the book on Unger, Nolan Dalla, well, ahem, ahem, ahem, I talked to him frequently. We were very friendly. We played in the same poker games. I could have dropped his name a long time ago but I'm not like you. I don't pulll that worthless name dropping shit.

    Very common knowledge that Unger wasn't a great cash game player. Archie Karras chopped Unger up at 7 Stud until Unger was broke. When Unger sat down in a short handed game the table filled up. Ask Billy Baxter. Do you really think Unger dried out to play cash games? LOL! Unger was good at tournament poker and gin rummy. That was it. He was a sucker at every thing else.

    You don't know the difference between tournament and cash poker. It's easy to tell. Tournament poker is about maneuvering under pressure. A set amount of chips against rising blinds. Pressure to make a move, all that type of stuff. Unger excelled at it, but not in cash games. In the cash games as they are structured in Las Vegas there's no pressure. The blinds are so low you can sit there forever, not play anything, and not lose that much.

    Ditz, when you find yourself in a hole....quit digging.
    Last edited by mickeycrimm; 02-02-2025 at 05:57 PM.
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