Risky gambling bets you made that paid off? :)

[accountinquestion]

Mickey, it wasn't me winning all those times. It was The Riddler. Surely you can take solace in being upstaged by a supervillain as opposed to me.

And you're kind of missing the point. Since you read Mr. Walters' book so carefully, let me know on what pages he says he did any programming himself. I'll wait.

See, if Mr. Walters didn't do any programming himself, but he won using computers, as you say, then why is there something wrong with me using programs but not doing the programming?

You want to go on a podcast and not answer questions? Well, I don't blame you. If I were you, on a podcast with me, I wouldn't want to answer questions, either. I give you credit.

The programming Walters did back then was retarded. He just used it to simplify things. Anything you could readily do in a spreadsheet today.

Funny you 2 talking about programming as if it is some magic thing. The world is full of 100 IQ programmers these days and back then all they were doing was tallying up stats they read out of a paper or possibly stuff someone called in. It really is not something you 2 should 1 up each other over. They weren't writing complicated things. Just automation of basic calculation but then of course I could be totally off base but doubtful.

[Half Smoke]

Was it 1984?

my claim to fame - 70s

I played basketball for a small college - partial scholarship - I was very, very good for a h.s. player - 18 p.p.g. my junior year - but I wasn't great - in college I did okay against some very tough competition

my school, 2400 students, believe it or not played Pitt - 20,000 students - I don't know about now but back then this was pretty common - I guess Pitt saw it as scrimmage

Pitt only beat us by 13

anyway - I had a 3 point play on Billy Knight who was an All American and later an NBA & ABA All Star

the funny thing is - he didn't foul me - just came close - but the ref called it

Billy Knight was so great that the Pitt Panthers retired his no. 34 jersey when he graduated

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[mickeycrimm]

[QUOTE=redietz;191064]Mickey, it wasn't me winning all those times. It was The Riddler. Surely you can take solace in being upstaged by a supervillain as opposed to me.

SEEK PSYCHIATRIC HELP FOR YOUR RIDDLER FANTASIES.

And you're kind of missing the point. Since you read Mr. Walters' book so carefully, let me know on what pages he says he did any programming himself. I'll wait.

WHILE WRITING ABOUT MICHAEL KENT, WALTERS SAID HE BECAME PART OF THE GROUP AS THE MONEY MOVER. WALTERS HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE LOGISTICS GUY, NOT THE HANDICAPPER. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A HANDICAPPER TO USE COMPUTER NUMBERS. BUT I KNEW THAT YEARS BEFORE FROM KONIK'S BOOK ON WALTERS PUBLISHED IN 2006. THE "GOTCHA" BULLSHIT AIN'T WORKING FOR YOU, DITZ. DID YOU READ KONIK'S BOOK?

See, if Mr. Walters didn't do any programming himself, but he won using computers, as you say, then why is there something wrong with me using programs but not doing the programming?

THERE WOULD BE NOTHING WRONG WITH YOU USING THE COMPUTER MODELS OF OTHERS. IT'S WHAT MUNCHKIN IS NOW DOING. BUT YOUR WHOLE SCHTICK IS YOUR PICKS ARE JUST OPINIONS. ARE YOU NOW SAYING YOU USE COMPUTER MODELS TO MAKE YOUR PICKS? YOU'VE DONE AN AWFUL LOT OF BASHING OF IT TO NOW MAKE THAT CLAIM.

You want to go on a podcast and not answer questions? Well, I don't blame you. If I were you, on a podcast with me, I wouldn't want to answer questions, either. I give you credit.

I'M NOT THE ONE CLAIMING TO BE A SPORTS GAMBLING EXPERT. YOU ARE THE ONE MAKING THAT CLAIM. ONLY THE SO CALLED "EXPERTS" SHOULD BE ANSWERING QUESTIONS. SO WE CAN COMPARE THEIR ANSWERS TO THE ANSWERS OF OTHER "EXPERTS."

THERE ARE A HOST OF NOTED SPORTS BETTORS FOUND ON THE INTERNET AND AT PUBLIC EVENTS. THEIR ANSWERS APPEAR TO BE SOMEWHAT DIFFERENT THAN YOURS. THEY EMBRACE COMPUTER MODELS. YOU DON'T. AND THEY ALSO DON'T INSULT THE PEOPLE ASKING QUESTIONS. THAT'S A CHARACTER FLAW YOU NEED TO WORK ON.

[redietz]

I've said it before, but I'll say it again. Computer programming can work great for something like college basketball. Not so much for something like college football. And roughly 85% of my wagering is college football.

The two best years the Computer Group had (percentage-wise) were in college football (oh, did I mention something not in the book -- LOL -- why do you think Mr. Walters doesn't give you specific numbers in the book?), and they overlapped two of my best years. Now, I wasn't quite as swashbuckling as the Computer Group those years, but I was in the vicinity. And we had many of the same plays. So was what I was doing radically different from what they were doing? I guess it wasn't.

You're kind of missing reality here -- human heuristics and computer modeling aren't two completely different processes. The heuristics relies on statistics. The modeling relies on human definitions of statistics and what should be quantified how.

All of this is obvious and Handicapping 101 stuff. The way AI will blow by human heuristics is tricky to see but also pretty obvious. I, however, am not giving it away. Well, I'll give you another hint (I already gave you one, whether you realize it or not). Some of Elon Musk's tech will be a key. That was actually a pretty big hint, but hopefully nobody will figure it out.

I ain't, after all, The Riddler.

[accountinquestion]

I've said it before, but I'll say it again. Computer programming can work great for something like college basketball. Not so much for something like college football. And roughly 85% of my wagering is college football.

The two best years the Computer Group had (percentage-wise) were in college football (oh, did I mention something not in the book -- LOL -- why do you think Mr. Walters doesn't give you specific numbers in the book?), and they overlapped two of my best years. Now, I wasn't quite as swashbuckling as the Computer Group those years, but I was in the vicinity. And we had many of the same plays. So was what I was doing radically different from what they were doing? I guess it wasn't.

You're kind of missing reality here -- human heuristics and computer modeling aren't two completely different processes. The heuristics relies on statistics. The modeling relies on human definitions of statistics and what should be quantified how.

All of this is obvious and Handicapping 101 stuff. The way AI will blow by human heuristics is tricky to see but also pretty obvious. I, however, am not giving it away. Well, I'll give you another hint (I already gave you one, whether you realize it or not). Some of Elon Musk's tech will be a key. That was actually a pretty big hint, but hopefully nobody will figure it out.

I ain't, after all, The Riddler.

Such bullshit.

How many times can one person allude to some belief that they know something others don't?

You don't know shit about computer programming and you know even less about AI.

[redietz]

I've said it before, but I'll say it again. Computer programming can work great for something like college basketball. Not so much for something like college football. And roughly 85% of my wagering is college football.

The two best years the Computer Group had (percentage-wise) were in college football (oh, did I mention something not in the book -- LOL -- why do you think Mr. Walters doesn't give you specific numbers in the book?), and they overlapped two of my best years. Now, I wasn't quite as swashbuckling as the Computer Group those years, but I was in the vicinity. And we had many of the same plays. So was what I was doing radically different from what they were doing? I guess it wasn't.

You're kind of missing reality here -- human heuristics and computer modeling aren't two completely different processes. The heuristics relies on statistics. The modeling relies on human definitions of statistics and what should be quantified how.

All of this is obvious and Handicapping 101 stuff. The way AI will blow by human heuristics is tricky to see but also pretty obvious. I, however, am not giving it away. Well, I'll give you another hint (I already gave you one, whether you realize it or not). Some of Elon Musk's tech will be a key. That was actually a pretty big hint, but hopefully nobody will figure it out.

I ain't, after all, The Riddler.

Such bullshit.

How many times can one person allude to some belief that they know something others don't?

You don't know shit about computer programming and you know even less about AI.

I don't program at all. I did, however, write a detailed response to this, but I erased it. One of the people who appears on this forum with me programs a lot, had some historical experience with a Chinese LV programming sports-betting team, and actually wrote a program for me that did some stuff from a mechanical perspective that gave me a betting edge.

But you know what? I'll save the stories for the podcast. Don't forget to call in.

Other than all that, you are spot on, account. LOL. What do you do, really? Play $20 parlay cards with your parents' money? No, no wait, let me guess. You count cards for $50 a hand.

Out of respect for mickey, I'll pass this along. That Chinese programming team bet college basketball. Sides and totals. As I said previously, it seems that college hoops lends itself to programming. My best guess is that it has to do with the large number of possessions in each game, the fact that each possession is time-limited, and the large number of games. Also the fact that, unlike the NBA, every game matters. Even incremental performance differences matter at the end of the year, so teams tend to not quit regardless of score most games. And also unlike the NBA, key personnel don't sit out games for no good reason.

But what do I know? I don't program. I just do things like this, which is what this thread was supposed to be about, until the anonymous pretend gamblers hijacked it:

https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...t=Rams+tickets

[mickeycrimm]

redietz will save the stories for the podcast? ROTFLMAO!!!! In other words, he's never going to tell those stories because he will never show up for a podcast. He's long been exposed on the issue so he should quit embarrassing himself by pretending he's going to do a podcast.

[accountinquestion]

But you know what? I'll save the stories for the podcast. Don't forget to call in.

Other than all that, you are spot on, account. LOL. What do you do, really? Play $20 parlay cards with your parents' money? No, no wait, let me guess. You count cards for $50 a hand.

I offered to put up $1k for a simple sports betting contest. You couldn't do it and requested other nonsense you knew I wouldn't go along with. I made it reasonable because it was a sincere and fun offer. The amount was low enough. But not for you ....

You've been doing the same thing for 40 years and still need investors to stay in action.

You had an outstanding tax on your house last time anyone checked.

lol redietz. go find another acquaintance to make vague references to in an attempt to try and impress someone out there that you are in fact not just a huge loser.

[accountinquestion]

redietz will save the stories for the podcast? ROTFLMAO!!!! In other words, he's never going to tell those stories because he will never show up for a podcast. He's long been exposed on the issue so he should quit embarrassing himself by pretending he's going to do a podcast.

He is such a clown of the highest order. I almost think he has come to believe his own bullshit over the years. That seems to be the case with a lot of these types. Singer too.

[kewlJ]

No, no wait, let me guess. You count cards for $50 a hand.

Red, do yourself a favor and don't talk about shit you don't have a clue about. Card counting involves a bet "spread", not an amount bet per hand. Even the most novice, only slightly informed player knows this.

You are already proving you know little about how many different players are winning involving sports betting in 2025. Who knows what you knew in 1984? Don't compound it by talking shit about another subject you have proven you know NOTHING about.

[MDawg]

UNKewlJ can't post what he doesn't have. Which includes about everything he has ever talked about other than some red or green chips.

[coach belly]

No, no wait, let me guess. You count cards for $50 a hand.

Red, do yourself a favor and don't talk about shit you don't have a clue about. Card counting involves a bet "spread", not an amount bet per hand. Even the most novice, only slightly informed player knows this.

Dietz's dig went right over your head.

You're such a moron.

[Tasha]

I made a three bet Longshot parlay and won. https://photos.app.goo.gl/cCfajijn9ApUguci7

[The Boz]

I made a three bet Longshot parlay and won. https://photos.app.goo.gl/cCfajijn9ApUguci7

Congratulations, almost 10-1! Did you research these guys or just guess?

Either way a win is a win.

What’s the old saying? Winner winner chicken dinner!

[The Boz]

I made a three bet Longshot parlay and won. https://photos.app.goo.gl/cCfajijn9ApUguci7

Wait, so I looked closer and you bet the losers also below it in a 2 teamer.

Nevermind on the congratulations, but doing this is only good if you are going in the sports tout business, and then you don’t show the losing tickets.

[Rob.Singer]

I made a three bet Longshot parlay and won. https://photos.app.goo.gl/cCfajijn9ApUguci7

Wait, so I looked closer and you bet the losers also below it in a 2 teamer.

Nevermind on the congratulations, but doing this is only good if you are going in the sports tout business, and then you don’t show the losing tickets.

I don't think she understood a word you said. If you were discussing cleaning shit off of floors and made a comment about how stupid Walgreens clerks are, then you're talking her language.

[pinchingyourballs]

I don't think she understood a word you said. If you were discussing cleaning shit off of floors and made a comment about how stupid Walgreens clerks are, then you're talking her language.

She doesn't need to understand any of it. She is only here to get sexual stimulation from being insulted, so as long as she registers "retard" and "Mammie" and whatnot she's all good.