Caesars has massively downgraded the "4 free drink" benefit for all Diamond levels in the Vegas market

[Dan Druff]

Anything past base Diamond isn't worth it.

Look at the benefits for Diamond Plus (now basically useless, except for the markets which still have lounges), Diamond Elite, and Seven Stars, and you'll see that the spend required to get there dwarfs what realistic benefits you'll get.

Most people erroneously believe that higher tier status equals better offers, but of course that isn't true at all. Offers have nothing to do with tier status.

Base Diamond gets you no resort fees (huge), the priority lines/registration, and also inherits the free parking benefit from Platinum. That's really all you need.

[coach belly]

Look at the benefits for Diamond Plus (now basically useless, except for the markets which still have lounges)

Harrahs AC recently changed the name of their Diamond Lounge to the Harbor Club, and brought back their hot & cold buffet...but did not rehire any servers.

The talk is that they changed the name to be able to claim that the room is a new venue, and therefore not contractually obligated to rehire the servers laid off when they discontinued the buffet.

They also changed the entry requirements, such that Diamond Plus requires 1000 RCs each for the cardholder and one guest. Previously, Diamond Plus status awarded the cardholder and one guest free entry.

Diamond Elite & Seven Stars are still free entry.

Another notable change, is that they installed GameKing multis into the HC's bartop. My understanding was that this was illegal, since all gaming was required to be available to the public, not exclusive to "VIPs" or whatever.

[DGenBen]

Look at the benefits for Diamond Plus (now basically useless, except for the markets which still have lounges)

Another notable change, is that they installed GameKing multis into the HC's bartop. My understanding was that this was illegal, since all gaming was required to be available to the public, not exclusive to "VIPs" or whatever.

If they do as good of job of maintaining legal compliance as they do with maintaining their properties it might be.

[pinchingyourballs]

I worry that casino executives will soon run out of superlative words in English in their pursuit of ever more out of reach rewards tiers and non stop re-branding. This will force them to mine words from more obscure languages, such as Tok Pisin, the lingua franca of Papua New Guinea. There the locals will teach them the word "pinis" which sort of means "ultimate" but unfortunately sounds a lot like penis.

[DGenBen]

I worry that casino executives will soon run out of superlative words in English in their pursuit of ever more out of reach rewards tiers and non stop re-branding. This will force them to mine words from more obscure languages, such as Tok Pisin, the lingua franca of Papua New Guinea. There the locals will teach them the word "pinis" which sort of means "ultimate" but unfortunately sounds a lot like penis.

If they run out of superlative words they can just invent new ones like Hypercelestial

But then their lowest tiers would have to be something lower like Unfathomablex

[MDawg]

BTW one thing I noticed when it comes to food and beverage comps at Caesars, no matter how much you have played and earned in theo, on check out they seem to tap your rewards points first! and then the host comps off the rest. They don't seem to do this against the room comp but yes against the food and beverage. That sucks if you were planning to use the points for something while not staying at the resort, just for little food purchases when you don't want to bother with a slip comp.

On a stay with a lot of food and beverage this may wipe out all your rewards points.

[DGenBen]

BTW one thing I noticed when it comes to food and beverage comps at Caesars, no matter how much you have played and earned in theo, on check out they seem to tap your rewards points first! and then the host comps off the rest. They don't seem to do this against the room comp but yes against the food and beverage. That sucks if you were planning to use the points for something while not staying at the resort, just for little food purchases when you don't want to bother with a slip comp.

On a stay with a lot of food and beverage this may wipe out all your rewards points.

Yup.

My host there told me they were not even allowed to comp anything until after you used all your rewards credits first.

[jpfromla]

BTW one thing I noticed when it comes to food and beverage comps at Caesars, no matter how much you have played and earned in theo, on check out they seem to tap your rewards points first! and then the host comps off the rest. They don't seem to do this against the room comp but yes against the food and beverage. That sucks if you were planning to use the points for something while not staying at the resort, just for little food purchases when you don't want to bother with a slip comp.

On a stay with a lot of food and beverage this may wipe out all your rewards points.

Yup.

My host there told me they were not even allowed to comp anything until after you used all your rewards credits first.

On-going for many years. Visit the gift shop, before you visit your host.

[Dan Druff]

BTW one thing I noticed when it comes to food and beverage comps at Caesars, no matter how much you have played and earned in theo, on check out they seem to tap your rewards points first! and then the host comps off the rest. They don't seem to do this against the room comp but yes against the food and beverage. That sucks if you were planning to use the points for something while not staying at the resort, just for little food purchases when you don't want to bother with a slip comp.

On a stay with a lot of food and beverage this may wipe out all your rewards points.

Yeah this goes back over a decade. Occasionally you could get a host to make an exception to it in the past, but I think even that stopped.

There used to be a trick where you could use up your RCs booking a non-Caesars hotel at lolbad rates, then get your host to comp you stuff because you now have 0 RCs, and then at the end of the trip, you cancel the reservation and get all the RCs back. But that partnership ended because nobody used it, since it was a terrible deal otherwise.

To take it one step further form what jpinla said, it's possible you can buy something expensive in gift shop with RCs, don't open it, and then return it after the host comps off your bill, and get the RCs back. But make sure beforehand that they accept returns and can refund the RCs in the case you do. Make sure you specify that you will return the item untouched/unopened. For example, you can say, "I'm buying this bag for my girlfriend but I'm not sure if she will show up this trip, so if she doesn't can I return this and get my RCs back, provided it's still in new condition and untouched?"