The Official CET Cheapness Thread

[mickeycrimm]

I don't know if you are aware of this but Brad is now a cadaver.

Yes, I saw where Brad succumbed.

He cashed in his chips.

He drew out for the last time.

[mickeycrimm]

Part 2

Jean Scott

4:18 PM (6 hours ago)

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Before I talk about coping with casino problems, which I promised to do in my last post, I want to share some casino news that might be helpful to some of you value-seeking players here. Unfortunately, some of it is bad news, but that kind of information helps players know what they will need to avoid or adjust to. The Eldorado casino in Reno has doubled the amount of coin-in to earn a tier credit on their VP machines that offer the best schedules. That will cross them off my list of good casinos to put in major daily play to earn bonuses to help me get to higher CZR tier levels. I won’t have the energy to play such long hours that this would require.
However, fortunately I have some possible good news that might be helpful for some of you. The Palms has changed ALL of their BJ tables to 3:2 blackjack payoffs. Gone are those pocket-emptying 6:5s!! Also welcome news for you Atlantic City players, the Golden Nugget has brought back free parking.

This next is a maybe good-news item. The Vegas Virgin Casino-Hotel (formerly the Hard Rock) is under new management and bringing out a new players club program this month called Cherry Rewards. They are saying it will be “one of the most transparent and easily understandable,” with “simpler ways to earn points and level up faster.” If you have followed my writings down through the years, you know how skeptical I am about casino announcements that say they have good news for players. So, the jury is out on whether this is good or bad news for the wise player!!

Okay, now for the casino snag I faced when I got home from that Reno trip I described in my last post. My goal had been to play enough to reach Diamond Elite which I had done – I thought. I had verified it at the players club before I left. However, when I got home and checked my account, I saw I was about 500 credits short. The world wasn’t going to end if I didn’t get Elite for 2025 but it was November and I wasn’t going to be at another CZR property the rest of year. I guess I could have sent a friend my card and had him/her put on those points for me but I really didn’t want to bother anyone and I really really don’t like to do things like that which are in a gray area even though I feel I deserved to rectify a casino mistake.

The problem was caused because for some unknown and certainly player-unfriendly reason the casino had changed their card readers. On every machine in the casino, I don’t know? I couldn’t check after I had gone home. But on the ones I played these readers no longer gave you any accounting of how many points you were or had been accumulating. I knew how many points I had to get in order to earn the daily bonuses and get to the 75,000 I needed for Elite but I had to continually check at the players club desk to check my balances. This meant for 5 days of play I would have to stop and leave my machine many times a day to check on my balance. And then at the end, the players club had given me my wrong final balance.

I knew there were some other ways to earn credits online but they were complicated and I wasn’t sure there was time to implement any of those options. I was just about to cry Uncle when I was rescued by an unexpected hero, a recreational gambler who I never could convince to leave the slots and play video poker. It was my much-loved son-in-law – Steve the tough Army Ranger. He had just recently been gambling more when visiting his mom who lived near the Cherokee casinos in North Carolina. He still hadn’t switched to VP but he was learning a lot about how to use players club benefits to his advantage. He told me how he applied for a CZR credit card that gave him enough bonus credits to reach his goal to get a Diamond players card and would save him paying resort fees as well as give him other valuable benefits.

I really didn’t need or want another credit card, but applied anyway and received and used it quickly enough to earn the 500+ bonus tier credits to get to Elite before Dec. 31. An example of just another way to help you get extra value for your casino play: Talk to other players. And if you can’t do it in person, there are many forums online with many players willing to share information. I have recently been going online a lot to get up-to-date information for my upcoming Vegas trip. Much has changed since I moved away from Vegas and could check a lot in person.

Speaking of Vegas, I’m still planning to be there March 6-13 and hoping it works out that some of you all might be able to be at the Frugalite Meet-Up at the Horseshoe food court on Sunday, March 9th from 1pm until around 2 or a bit later. It is so great to chat with fellow players!!

[mcap]

I don't drink and four, one liter bottles of Fiji per day would be great by me, but typically they don't even give those up all you find as far as still water at Caesars Vegas is 591 ml Aquafina at the food outlets like Buddy V's Pizzeria or Pronto by Giada.

In Tahoe they will give you four free Fijis but they are not one liter, more like 500ml, if that.

You can blow a lot of money on water. Hell, it's at least $2 a bottle at every convenience store. I buy the 40 packs of 16.9 oz. bottled water at Walmart for $5.36 and keep it in the vehicle. That's less than 14 cents a bottle. 4 bottles a night go to the hotel rooms with me.

Why don’t you just re-fill two gallon ones for 0.25-0.50 you plastic wasting son of a bitch

[DGenBen]

Part 2

Jean Scott

4:18 PM (6 hours ago)

to vpfree-archives

Before I talk about coping with casino problems, which I promised to do in my last post, I want to share some casino news that might be helpful to some of you value-seeking players here. Unfortunately, some of it is bad news, but that kind of information helps players know what they will need to avoid or adjust to. The Eldorado casino in Reno has doubled the amount of coin-in to earn a tier credit on their VP machines that offer the best schedules. That will cross them off my list of good casinos to put in major daily play to earn bonuses to help me get to higher CZR tier levels. I won’t have the energy to play such long hours that this would require.
However, fortunately I have some possible good news that might be helpful for some of you. The Palms has changed ALL of their BJ tables to 3:2 blackjack payoffs. Gone are those pocket-emptying 6:5s!! Also welcome news for you Atlantic City players, the Golden Nugget has brought back free parking.

This next is a maybe good-news item. The Vegas Virgin Casino-Hotel (formerly the Hard Rock) is under new management and bringing out a new players club program this month called Cherry Rewards. They are saying it will be “one of the most transparent and easily understandable,” with “simpler ways to earn points and level up faster.” If you have followed my writings down through the years, you know how skeptical I am about casino announcements that say they have good news for players. So, the jury is out on whether this is good or bad news for the wise player!!

Okay, now for the casino snag I faced when I got home from that Reno trip I described in my last post. My goal had been to play enough to reach Diamond Elite which I had done – I thought. I had verified it at the players club before I left. However, when I got home and checked my account, I saw I was about 500 credits short. The world wasn’t going to end if I didn’t get Elite for 2025 but it was November and I wasn’t going to be at another CZR property the rest of year. I guess I could have sent a friend my card and had him/her put on those points for me but I really didn’t want to bother anyone and I really really don’t like to do things like that which are in a gray area even though I feel I deserved to rectify a casino mistake.

The problem was caused because for some unknown and certainly player-unfriendly reason the casino had changed their card readers. On every machine in the casino, I don’t know? I couldn’t check after I had gone home. But on the ones I played these readers no longer gave you any accounting of how many points you were or had been accumulating. I knew how many points I had to get in order to earn the daily bonuses and get to the 75,000 I needed for Elite but I had to continually check at the players club desk to check my balances. This meant for 5 days of play I would have to stop and leave my machine many times a day to check on my balance. And then at the end, the players club had given me my wrong final balance.

I knew there were some other ways to earn credits online but they were complicated and I wasn’t sure there was time to implement any of those options. I was just about to cry Uncle when I was rescued by an unexpected hero, a recreational gambler who I never could convince to leave the slots and play video poker. It was my much-loved son-in-law – Steve the tough Army Ranger. He had just recently been gambling more when visiting his mom who lived near the Cherokee casinos in North Carolina. He still hadn’t switched to VP but he was learning a lot about how to use players club benefits to his advantage. He told me how he applied for a CZR credit card that gave him enough bonus credits to reach his goal to get a Diamond players card and would save him paying resort fees as well as give him other valuable benefits.

I really didn’t need or want another credit card, but applied anyway and received and used it quickly enough to earn the 500+ bonus tier credits to get to Elite before Dec. 31. An example of just another way to help you get extra value for your casino play: Talk to other players. And if you can’t do it in person, there are many forums online with many players willing to share information. I have recently been going online a lot to get up-to-date information for my upcoming Vegas trip. Much has changed since I moved away from Vegas and could check a lot in person.

Speaking of Vegas, I’m still planning to be there March 6-13 and hoping it works out that some of you all might be able to be at the Frugalite Meet-Up at the Horseshoe food court on Sunday, March 9th from 1pm until around 2 or a bit later. It is so great to chat with fellow players!!

Thanks for posting Mickey.

There is a work around for the problem she describes of the new card readers not displaying earned points.

They don’t but they do have the option right on the screen to convert RCs to freeplay. When you use that option you can just look at the available amount of freeplay that can be converted from your RCs without actually converting it and then back out.

So when you start playing you look at this amount, then whenever you want to see how many points you’ve earned up to that point, you look at it again and see what the difference is and by seeing the new value of freeplay you have available to convert from RCs you can figure out exactly how many points you’ve earned up to that point.

You might have to pull your card out and reinsert it to update the points from your current session.

Not as easy as before when it just displayed total RCs earned for the day, but much easier then getting up and going to the players card desk several times.

Some properties also limit the amount of freeplay that can be converted from rewards to $500 or $1000 a day so once you hit that amount this method may no longer work.

[Don Perignom]

Not as easy as before when it just displayed total RCs earned for the day, but much easier then getting up and going to the players card desk several times.

Clever. But I don't get why she went to the desk. Any kiosk would have displayed her balances.

I just use the Caesars Rewards app. Some casino apps are laggy, but Caesars is pretty much perfectly real-time, in my experience. Just may need to pull and reinsert your card, as you noted.

[DGenBen]

Not as easy as before when it just displayed total RCs earned for the day, but much easier then getting up and going to the players card desk several times.

Clever. But I don't get why she went to the desk. Any kiosk would have displayed her balances.

I just use the Caesars Rewards app. Some casino apps are laggy, but Caesars is pretty much perfectly real-time, in my experience. Just may need to pull and reinsert your card, as you noted.

Good point.

After I wrote this I was trying to recall if Caesars displayed this on their kiosks or app in real time, & I couldn’t recall since I don’t play there much anymore since it’s so godawful.

As to why she went to the desk I can totally understand.

She is of the generation where you wouldn’t even think of the online app or kiosks. Not that I’m knocking that. I am at the cutoff of that generation too where sometimes I remember online apps, kiosks, etc. and sometimes I forget & go out and buy stamps to mail in my bills.

[Don Perignom]

She is of the generation where you wouldn’t even think of the online app or kiosks.

She has to be older than Rob, so yes, although advantage play is all about creative problem solving.

I just don't like interacting with the booth. Good chance the employee is wearing a mask, and I'll have to ask twice to repeat what was said, then I'll give up and walk away.

He drew out for the last time.

He checked in to the Motel Deep Six.

[DGenBen]

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[Don Perignom]

An outdated, poorly maintained, free of charge dump (excluding weekends).



edit: Which worst casino are we talking about?

[mickeycrimm]

I don't drink and four, one liter bottles of Fiji per day would be great by me, but typically they don't even give those up all you find as far as still water at Caesars Vegas is 591 ml Aquafina at the food outlets like Buddy V's Pizzeria or Pronto by Giada.

In Tahoe they will give you four free Fijis but they are not one liter, more like 500ml, if that.

You can blow a lot of money on water. Hell, it's at least $2 a bottle at every convenience store. I buy the 40 packs of 16.9 oz. bottled water at Walmart for $5.36 and keep it in the vehicle. That's less than 14 cents a bottle. 4 bottles a night go to the hotel rooms with me.

Why don’t you just re-fill two gallon ones for 0.25-0.50 you plastic wasting son of a bitch

Get your mama to tote 8 pound jugs of water you posey sniffing swine.

[mickeycrimm]

Thanks for posting Mickey.

There is a work around for the problem she describes of the new card readers not displaying earned points.

They don’t but they do have the option right on the screen to convert RCs to freeplay. When you use that option you can just look at the available amount of freeplay that can be converted from your RCs without actually converting it and then back out.

So when you start playing you look at this amount, then whenever you want to see how many points you’ve earned up to that point, you look at it again and see what the difference is and by seeing the new value of freeplay you have available to convert from RCs you can figure out exactly how many points you’ve earned up to that point.

You might have to pull your card out and reinsert it to update the points from your current session.

Not as easy as before when it just displayed total RCs earned for the day, but much easier then getting up and going to the players card desk several times.

Some properties also limit the amount of freeplay that can be converted from rewards to $500 or $1000 a day so once you hit that amount this method may no longer work.

I sent Jean your workaround. Thanx.

[Rob.Singer]

I don't drink and four, one liter bottles of Fiji per day would be great by me, but typically they don't even give those up all you find as far as still water at Caesars Vegas is 591 ml Aquafina at the food outlets like Buddy V's Pizzeria or Pronto by Giada.

In Tahoe they will give you four free Fijis but they are not one liter, more like 500ml, if that.

You can blow a lot of money on water. Hell, it's at least $2 a bottle at every convenience store. I buy the 40 packs of 16.9 oz. bottled water at Walmart for $5.36 and keep it in the vehicle. That's less than 14 cents a bottle. 4 bottles a night go to the hotel rooms with me.

If there's one key to a healthy/healthier life, it's water. Doctors recommend drinking at least 64oz. per day. I try to drink twice that and I always have. It's amazing how drinking a bottle or two when you start feeling "off" will quickly help you recover. The only downside? Lots of trips to the rest rooms when we're on the road--which is often.

[jpfromla]

Update on Caesars LV Cheapness....
Vista still would not give me a water back, however the Monte Cristo Cigar Lounge did, with no problems.
And twice this week, only one elevator was working from the garage.

[Rob.Singer]

The fact that Jean has not yet learned that playing for slot club status, especially at Caesar's properties of all places, is what losing players regularly do, is a mystery to behold.

My books, my articles, my posts and my media appearances throughout my vp-playing career have always stated that YOU SHOULD ALWAYS AND ONLY PLAY TO WIN MONEY. Playing for slot club points, status, and making yourself feel good by claiming your casino host actually cares about you and is your "friend" at your "home away from home" equate to nothing more than giving a player justification for losing.

Winning players play to win something called MONEY. And whatever points and slot club status they earn from doing so is what it is. Using status etc. as a means to an end is very, very foolish.

I used to rail against Alan for believing his CP casino host cared about him and was his new best friend. All those people are trained to do is help you drain your wallet, then assist you in getting more cash from any means possible and transferring it from your bank accounts to the casino's.

Winning players do not want or need casino hosts. Losing players do, mainly to help make them feel better about their losses, and to make them believe they had a good time accumulating those losses.

[Don Perignom]

YOU SHOULD ALWAYS AND ONLY PLAY TO WIN MONEY.

Using status etc. as a means to an end is very, very foolish.

Winning players do not want or need casino hosts.

I think that's good advice for your audience, Rob.