My Casino back-rooming.

[kewlJ]

I don't believe any part of your backroom story and I'm skeptical about 75% of everything else.

I am sure I can find a similar quote from Axelwolf (and most other AP's and real players) about you.

What do you think you repeating shit like this proves? That you are a mental patient repeating themselves like someone with dementia?

[redietz]

or the playing of 50 ATS games a day trying to stay under the radar while working off a bonus for serious money (and making a profit), and then doing it again for serious money at the same site, and then doing it again. The KewlJ(s) have a sports betting profile as under-the-radar as Jimmy Durante's nose (or Pinocchio's).

Would placing 50 bets a day at the same site be something that would not be tolerated? I don't know. You are the expert so thanks for clearing that up.

Now as for me, I don't place 50 wagers a day at one site. I have 5 that I use. So, Mr Expert, would a player making 10 wagers a day be something that is frowned upon?

A couple of these sportsbooks, I have used for many years before I began doing this bonus play. So if they look back at my history, they STILL will see 5,6,7 losing years before the single winning (with bonus money) year, last year. How is THAT going to play?

There may come a time that the books I am using all cut me off. One already did. I just added a couple new ones. And when that time comes, which I fully expect, I will then decide whether to add new books that I am not as familiar with and confident that I will be paid, or maybe use a new account and name at the ones I am using (the horrors according to redietz) or both. Or maybe I will be done with this play, at least at the level I am currently doing it.

But until that time comes, STFU. You saying stupid shit like a sportsbook is going to flag a player making 10 wagers a day, who has had 5 out of 6 losing years, makes me doubt anything you say or have ever said.

You are so freaking obsessed with a couple players that call or consider themselves APs and not sports bettors, doing something involving sports at an advantage. GET THE FUCK OVER IT! You do not have a monopoly on sports betting. It is probably the fastest growing form of gambling and advantage player over the last 5 years.

Call me old-fashioned, but I'm a guy who thinks "full pay" video poker returns 100% and "advantage play" means you win money.

You do realize you contradict yourself on details all the time? And you give very few details. It's actually, and I hate to quote Singer here but I will, "entertaining."

[kewlJ]

You do realize you contradict yourself on details all the time? And you give very few details.

So you are a college educated dude, educated at The Farmers' High School of Pennsylvania (which later became Penn State)

So you tell us all why advantage players just might only give few details (maybe none) about what they do or if the give some details might omit or change some details along the way? Come on, you are a smart dude with your genius I.Q. and perfect SAT scores from 50 years ago. You can figure this out.

And oh yeah....you are old fashioned. And living in yesteryear. 1984 I presume.

[kewlJ]

Red, here is what you and the other trolls don't and have never understood. I share what I want to share. Sometimes that is bits and pieces of what I do and have done. Sometimes details omitted or slightly altered. If you think I would come on public gambling forums and just reveal everything I have done....as I do it, for years, more than a decade now, well I don't know what to tell you. But that high I.Q. isn't working.

I am going to throw you trolls a bone today (feed the trolls). It is a big one. Back when I revealed the tracking multiple tables, I said it was one of several things that I did that really increase earning and/or increase longevity. Some of these things are minor, some much more major.

So here is another that I have never revealed or talked about. I don't use it much anymore with the way I currently play and my brother has never used it. So I will reveal it. I probably can go back to it again at a later point if I desire.

So here is the disclaimer: Shouldn't even need to state this disclaimer, but I will. When conditions are right.

The technique: Using two very different bet spreads and corresponding max bets at the same table/game. I will explain using examples.

So lets say you are spreading $50-$300 at a 6 deck game. That is a modest 1-6 spread. depending on the place, that alone will probably be tolerated for at least a little while. But if you play through a number of shoes, eventually that spread will be noticed. And one of the big "tells" is when you go from a large Max Bet back to the smaller wager at the shuffle. That is why I routinely make that one of my exit points instead of showing that information.

But lets say, you are playing a really good game, good rules, deep penetration. Maybe far to the western side of Vegas, near the reddish canyon. Very good penetration. So you want to play on rather than exit, but don't want to show the huge "tell" of reverting back to smaller wager.

So this is when the second bet spread ramp kicks in. After finishing the shoe betting your max bet of $300, instead of reverting back to $50, you start an entirely new bet spread spreading $200-$800 or $200-$1000. $1000 max bet is really pushing at the place mentioned so lets go $200-$800.

So, if anyone had any interest in your play because of the initial spread shown, $50-$300, as soon as they see your new "small bet" of $200 to start the new shoe, they will have dismissed that concern. I mean $300 to $200 is pretty much flat betting. I might even make that first hand of the new shoe $300 before reverting back to $200 to really make it look like I am flat betting.

So then you go on playing your new spread $200-$800, which still is only 1-4 spread, but the $800 will draw attention. And once you play that $800 max bet, even once, you exit at the next shuffle.

Now you have gotten 2 cycles at that table (a cycle is showing your spread from minimum to max bet) instead of 1 cycle. And the amounts of the two spreads, averaged together are double your original $50-$300 spread. Twice the cycles at twice the wagers amounts. That is quite the increase in EV.

So there you have it. Your welcome to the trolls for the bone. Can't wait to hear all these non-APs and AP haters, who don't even play blackjack and most know little about blackjack, respond with their trolling.

[monet]

Call me old-fashioned, but I'm a guy who thinks "full pay" video poker returns 100% and "advantage play" means you win money.

A lot of video poker full pay only pays back high 99%
Even Bonus Poker at 99.1% payback is considered Full Pay.
It's semantics.
Doesn't matter.
Lots of other things to consider like points, promotions, mailers, comp... etc. etc.
You can even play 97% payback games if the conditions, like progressives, are at the right numbers.
Whatever.
You're not playing Video Poker on a serious note anyways.

[MDawg]

One thing you can tell, when UNKewlJ makes with the all bold sentences one after another something has really gotten to him. You can practically see the hand cocked onto his side, the bent elbow and the high pitched whiny voice complaining, "Now wayyyyt a minute, Misterrrrr."

This dude is a fraud. He just tries to piece together things that he imagines goes on based on a culmination of bits and pieces of stories he pulls from the Internet. Clown world.

[kewlJ]

A couple thoughts about this "dawg" person. And isn't "Mdawg" such a cool, hip handle.

When this guy claims to be in Las Vegas he posts 24/7 trolling people on gambling forums.
When this guy claims to be in California working as an attorney, he posts 24/7 on gambling forums trolling people.

I am just one of those people he trolls, although more of his trolling is directed at me. He trolls and attacks and tries to discredit every single person, AP's and real players, here an at WoV, that ever doubted his stupid fairytale story.

Now the thing about posting 24/7 from Las Vegas. I live in Vegas, so I post (way too much) in my free time. But how many people on visits to Las Vegas post non-stop trolling like this guy does. Some post 'trip reports' in real times, which I actually enjoy. But No one and I mean No one visiting Las Vegas posts 24/7 trolling shit like this. I will leave that to each of you to figure out why.

[monet]

A couple thoughts about this "dawg" person. And isn't "Mdawg" such a cool, hip handle.

When this guy claims to be in Las Vegas he posts 24/7 trolling people on gambling forums.
When this guy claims to be in California working as an attorney, he posts 24/7 on gambling forums trolling people.

I am just one of those people he trolls, although more of his trolling is directed at me. He trolls and attacks and tries to discredit every single person, AP's and real players, here an at WoV, that ever doubted his stupid fairytale story.

Now the thing about posting 24/7 from Las Vegas. I live in Vegas, so I post (way too much) in my free time. But how many people on visits to Las Vegas post non-stop trolling like this guy does. Some post 'trip reports' in real times, which I actually enjoy. But No one and I mean No one visiting Las Vegas posts 24/7 trolling shit like this. I will leave that to each of you to figure out why.

If you don't read his posts, he doesn't exist.

[MDawg]

Nothing you post is 100% true.
From faking your own death to using multiple sockpuppets.
Like Coach said... you are constantly lying to the forums and you have admitted to it time and time again.