This Ain't No Poll

[kewlJ]

, you'd find that the first year I was in the Satellite Cable Handicap, televised out of Buffalo, I got off to a 17-2-1 ATS start. I had to slot people to call me, there were so many sign-ups. In other words, I had to have people call me in 10-minute brackets so everyone could get through.

Bob Dietz, how can I make you understand.... NOBODY CARES ABOUT SOME CHERRY-PICKED CONTEST IN BUFFALO OR ANYWHER ELSE THAT YOU DID WELL IN.

Kim Lee studied and went over all the publications for 40 years that you have mentioned. I don't know if he had all 40 years but he had enough that he was able to say, your win rate was 53% over all those years.

That you did well in a contest in buffalo or a year in 1983 doesn't change that. You are cherry picking specific situations. Kim Lee is talking overall. 40 years!!

[kewlJ]

For anyone interested, my late wife had a double doctorate and out-earned me most years. She was a subcontractor for the Army.

Ah, then as you're of retirement age you can opt to draw a benefit which would be one-half of what she'd have been eligible for, so long as you were married at least ten years before she passed and you haven't remarried.

For a double-doc with high earnings that could well be how you pull it off today, especially given what seems to be your spotty employment earnings history.

Just speculating, no offense intended.

I don't have too much time, but this may be useful information for Dietz that he did not know. A couple years ago at GF, he mentioned that he just started receiving social security. He may have just turned 67 at the time, not sure. So I casually asked him some questions about it. Not trying to catch him in anything as we were on good terms. He didn't seem to know how much he received or when he received it. said some stupid thing like he just notices that every month there is extra money in his account.

I found that extremely hard to believe. Who doesn't know how much social security they get or when. SS sends you a letter telling you each years!! Honestly made me think Red didn't even get SS. I kind of figured he never paid into so he wasn't getting it. And that was probably why he made those stupid comments about mickeycrimm and social security.

So if that is the case, maybe he is eligible for half his wifes and didn't know it. I almost hope so for his sake. then he could pay his tax bill.

[redietz]

For anyone interested, my late wife had a double doctorate and out-earned me most years. She was a subcontractor for the Army.

Ah, then as you're of retirement age you can opt to draw a benefit which would be one-half of what she'd have been eligible for, so long as you were married at least ten years before she passed and you haven't remarried.

For a double-doc with high earnings that could well be how you pull it off today, especially given what seems to be your spotty employment earnings history.

Just speculating, no offense intended.

Spotty employment earning history? LOL. I was processing credit cards for Integrity Sports. Banks tracked the majority of my income. There is no way around that. This ain't "APing." In addition, any income from my association with Playbook's national newsletter would have been assiduously reported. What exactly do you think I was doing? If you have no idea, why even comment?

This is weird. Blackjack players and slot players thinking what? You get to non-report income when people pay you with credit cards? That wouldn't work 40 years ago, or 20 years ago, or now.

And MrV has the one-half benefit thing wrong, to boot.

But keep swinging. Eventually somebody will get something right.

[kewlJ]

Dude!! That you processed credit card payments from those you scammed with your tout service, in no way proves anything about whether you paid into social security or not!

Are YOU that stupid or do you just think everyone else is that stupid.

And I have no idea if you paid in or are eligible to receive SS. All I am saying is a guy who says I don't know how much I get or when it comes, made me think he wasn't really getting SS.

[redietz]

For anyone interested, my late wife had a double doctorate and out-earned me most years. She was a subcontractor for the Army.

Ah, then as you're of retirement age you can opt to draw a benefit which would be one-half of what she'd have been eligible for, so long as you were married at least ten years before she passed and you haven't remarried.

For a double-doc with high earnings that could well be how you pull it off today, especially given what seems to be your spotty employment earnings history.

Just speculating, no offense intended.

I don't have too much time, but this may be useful information for Dietz that he did not know. A couple years ago at GF, he mentioned that he just started receiving social security. He may have just turned 67 at the time, not sure. So I casually asked him some questions about it. Not trying to catch him in anything as we were on good terms. He didn't seem to know how much he received or when he received it. said some stupid thing like he just notices that every month there is extra money in his account.

I found that extremely hard to believe. Who doesn't know how much social security they get or when. SS sends you a letter telling you each years!! Honestly made me think Red didn't even get SS. I kind of figured he never paid into so he wasn't getting it. And that was probably why he made those stupid comments about mickeycrimm and social security.

So if that is the case, maybe he is eligible for half his wifes and didn't know it. I almost hope so for his sake. then he could pay his tax bill.

In other words, this lying scumbag made shit up, as usual.

What else is new? The innocent act doesn't play well in Topeka. I never said I was paying into social security because everyone pays into social security. I also breathe occasionally and do a lot of pissing after drinking beer.

This is the old "KewlJ declaring when he knows nothing about anything" schtick.

He's disgusting. Declaring shit he knows absolutely nothing about and then retreating to asinine excuses for why he's disgusting.

[redietz]

Dude!! That you processed credit card payments from those you scammed with your tout service, in no way proves anything about whether you paid into social security or not!

Are YOU that stupid or do you just think everyone else is that stupid.

And I have no idea if you paid in or are eligible to receive SS. All I am saying is a guy who says I don't know how much I get or when it comes, made me think he wasn't really getting SS.

Stop the clown act.

[accountinquestion]

Dude!! That you processed credit card payments from those you scammed with your tout service, in no way proves anything about whether you paid into social security or not!

Are YOU that stupid or do you just think everyone else is that stupid.

And I have no idea if you paid in or are eligible to receive SS. All I am saying is a guy who says I don't know how much I get or when it comes, made me think he wasn't really getting SS.

Stop the clown act.

As usual I'm dreadfully confused. Is Kim Lee the
Other of kewl that we have been hearing about?

[kewlJ]

Stop the clown act.

Yes please do!

I gotta go but you mentioned I should call into the interview. there is NEVER going to be an interview and you KNOW it. You have declined Munchkin twice while telling us you were open to do it and now have been dragging your feet with Dan Druff for months.

And when Druff says he is still open to it or something, you then set up 10 more roadblocks with shit like you need to be in Las Vegas with certain people for a phone in interview for God sakes. NEVER going to happen.

[kewlJ]

As usual I'm dreadfully confused. Is Kim Lee the
Other of kewl that we have been hearing about?

Are you being serious or trying to be funny? Kim Lee is a longtime advantage player gambling mathematics expert., and now Professor at a university. Go back and read mickey's link to him. these guys, the 3 biggest trolls on this forum, Mdawg, coach belly and redietz are just trying to smear his name and reputation because he came to the same conclusion about Red's sports betting "career" as the rest of us.

I really only knew him as a blackjack Ap that did some cool out-of-the-box stuff. But apparently he is quite a serious gambling math guy, well published.

The only real significant of the Kim Lee ordeal is that he was Bob Dietz's witness. Dietz named Kim Lee as someone that knew about the sports handicapping business and all the contests. And then Kim Lee came here and said after looking at the numbers for all the years, he didn't think Dietz could have made any real money.

[MDawg]

But of course I'm just trolling you... and all the trolls deep down actually believe you, right? Total self-dilution. Have you ever considered you might be wrong about anything??

[coach belly]

I just heard from Kim Lee and he says he is done here.

Oh no...say it ain't so.

Does anybody think Kimchi won't ever post here again?

If he acts like a douche, and quacks like a douche...he's a douche.

So when Kimchi inevitably returns to this forum, that will definitively prove, once and for all, that he is a tewlj sock puppet douche.

[accountinquestion]

As usual I'm dreadfully confused. Is Kim Lee the
Other of kewl that we have been hearing about?

Are you being serious or trying to be funny? Kim Lee is a longtime advantage player gambling mathematics expert., and now Professor at a university. Go back and read mickey's link to him. these guys, the 3 biggest trolls on this forum, Mdawg, coach belly and redietz are just trying to smear his name and reputation because he came to the same conclusion about Red's sports betting "career" as the rest of us.

I really only knew him as a blackjack Ap that did some cool out-of-the-box stuff. But apparently he is quite a serious gambling math guy, well published.

The only real significant of the Kim Lee ordeal is that he was Bob Dietz's witness. Dietz named Kim Lee as someone that knew about the sports handicapping business and all the contests. And then Kim Lee came here and said after looking at the numbers for all the years, he didn't think Dietz could have made any real money.

I meant mother not other. Damn phone.

Regardless - I find it exceedingly unlikely Kim Lee is you or you're Kim Lee or anything else of that nature. Perhaps. THat'd be very wild. Of course Redietz never explains anything ever.

He just talks down to everyone but never produces anything. Ever. Fact.

[redietz]

As usual I'm dreadfully confused. Is Kim Lee the
Other of kewl that we have been hearing about?

Are you being serious or trying to be funny? Kim Lee is a longtime advantage player gambling mathematics expert., and now Professor at a university. Go back and read mickey's link to him. these guys, the 3 biggest trolls on this forum, Mdawg, coach belly and redietz are just trying to smear his name and reputation because he came to the same conclusion about Red's sports betting "career" as the rest of us.

I really only knew him as a blackjack Ap that did some cool out-of-the-box stuff. But apparently he is quite a serious gambling math guy, well published.

The only real significant of the Kim Lee ordeal is that he was Bob Dietz's witness. Dietz named Kim Lee as someone that knew about the sports handicapping business and all the contests. And then Kim Lee came here and said after looking at the numbers for all the years, he didn't think Dietz could have made any real money.

You completely fabricated this summary. Kim Lee evaluated a handful of years in the 1990's, which included my first year being monitored by Mike McCusker, where I was eight or nine games UNDER .500 for college football. I was bad and had terrible results that first year with McCusker. What Kim Lee and KewlJ DO NOT mention is that the year previous to that I had a weekly newspaper column in the Valley View Citizen-Standard where I was a documented 45 games OVER .500 in college football. In fact, the Shenandoah Evening Herald (now folded into the Pottsville Republican) featured me in a front page story to preview the Rams/Steelers Super Bowl that year BECAUSE of my ATS record in the Valley View column.

Now the reason I don't get bent out of shape at all regarding my first official year with McCusker is because of that previous year with my published column AND because the final five years of the McCusker Report (late '90's), I won the college football profit title three of those final five years.

In addition, Kim Lee didn't keep tabs on me after the McCusker Report stopped publishing, so what KewlJ wrote above is a complete fabrication. I was compiling the best or second best ATS record ongoing for the next 25 years in The Wise Guys Contest, featured on newsstands nationally. It required two ATS games a week every week of every football season. Literally tens of thousands of people read my selections every week.

In conclusion, what KewlJ wrote above is complete bullshit, as usual. He takes a lot of liberties with the truth, and he does it all the time. He declares things he knows nothing about. He lies consistently and constantly. The faking his death and faking his arm-breaking and all that -- these are not outliers. Almost all of his posting is a complete fabrication.

P.S. Here's an interesting situation. Let's say I describe KewlJ's wagering profile and location to management at Oddsmaker and YouWager, and (partly because he had nothing good to say about either) I'm able to extract some inside info on the boy's wagering at both YouWager and Oddsmaker. How much do any of you really think the boy is actually betting? LOL.

[accountinquestion]

P.S. Here's an interesting situation. Let's say I describe KewlJ's wagering profile and location to management at Oddsmaker and YouWager, and (partly because he had nothing good to say about either) I'm able to extract some inside info on the boy's wagering at both YouWager and Oddsmaker. How much do any of you really think the boy is actually betting? LOL.

And this folks is why no one wants to have anything to do with our ol boy Red. This is why he wants your name. He goes back to his same behavior.

Real gangsters would not have a thing to do with this comic book collecting dweeb snitchy ass.

I will say one thing about Redietz and that is he does seem to have a sense of being truthful. He really believes himself. There is a lot out there he doesn't understand but he doesn't lie by fabrication from anything I've ever seen.

I don't think you'd find one long term winning bettor on this site would let him be in charge of their money though. That isn't because you can't trust him - just that he is delusional as fuck and seems to not grasp some relatively simple concepts.

I appreciated Kim Lee's posting here. Maybe I am a big troll but I'm also resptectful of people who have things of value to talk about. This is much why I respect Mickey in some ways. Most everyone on here who isn't a bullshit artist will share bits and pieces of useful info.

[kewlJ]

P.S. Here's an interesting situation. Let's say I describe KewlJ's wagering profile and location to management at Oddsmaker and YouWager, and (partly because he had nothing good to say about either) I'm able to extract some inside info on the boy's wagering at both YouWager and Oddsmaker. How much do any of you really think the boy is actually betting? LOL.

And this folks is why no one wants to have anything to do with our ol boy Red. This is why he wants your name. He goes back to his same behavior.

Real gangsters would not have a thing to do with this comic book collecting dweeb snitchy ass.

Yeah, Redietz is growing crazier and crazier over time, and a fairly short time at that. Only 6-8 months ago he threatened to come to Las Vegas and find me. I forget his wording but it had something to do with a mob girlfriend and/or her family or something. I know he is angry that his story fell apart, but this is getting too crazy.

Maybe it is my fault, I don't know.

What I do know is this shit is happening more and more frequently. People doxing and threatening and threatening to rat people out. I mean seriously what is the benefit of being on this forum? Every day is further and further down Crazyville, which just happens to be the next town over from East Bum Fuck.

[mickeycrimm]

P.S. Here's an interesting situation. Let's say I describe KewlJ's wagering profile and location to management at Oddsmaker and YouWager, and (partly because he had nothing good to say about either) I'm able to extract some inside info on the boy's wagering at both YouWager and Oddsmaker. How much do any of you really think the boy is actually betting? LOL.

SNITCH

[mickeycrimm]

Who was the forensic scientist that went over KJ and Kim Lee posts? Would you list their credentials? And will you show the evidence that the forensic found.

My understanding is that multiple online plagiarism detectors were used for the analysis.

The different applications reported the same conclusion.

Here's how to view the evidence...

Use the process explained above to compare posts authored by tewlj & Kim Lee.

Then look at yourself in a mirror, and locate your nose.

The evidence is as plain as the nose on your face.

Who was the forensic scientist that went over the posts?

[AxelWolf]

How much do any of you really think the boy is actually betting? LOL.

Oh, I don't know, but whatever it is/was, at least I would know he could afford to bet his OWN money.

[AxelWolf]

After all, unlike some folks, I don't have Nersesian on speed dial.

I do have Bob's (Nersesian)personal number. But hey, you got Billy Walter's personal number, right?

[AxelWolf]

I guess you are in luck Redietz. I just heard from Kim Lee and he says he is done here. So I guess he won't be back to dispute your made up lies. Not that anyone can ever win with you trolls anyway.

During the course of the exchange, he did mention that Mdawg had emailed him. He didn't say, but let me guess. Dawg emailed him pestering him for details about me just like dawg did to Hunter Hill. Boy that is stalker-ish shit dawg. But then you really are a trollish stalker.

This got me thinking . Dawg likes to claim he met Wizard who witnessed one short session of his play, at much lower stakes than dawg claims online. One witness for what an hour, one short session, one time.

Well despite my strong desire to be and remain as anonymous as I can, I have had two people at WoV claim they met me and watched me play, MULTIPLE times. One I forget the handle he used, and am not going to say his real name, but a well known manager of a long running blackjack team.

The second Hunter Hill who made not one but 2 posts several years apart saying he had met me. (I actually had forgotten about his first post, because he didn't elaborate, just answer Billryan, that yes he had met me), The second post several years later he elaborated that he met me in Atlantic City 20 years ago and has seen me play several times since in Las Vegas.

Between the TWO guys, having seen me play multiple times, that is more than your one witness that watched you play, Dawg fairly low stakes for 45 minutes so you could win a free roll bet. Should I be running around claimed "verified"? BTW, I dont want to be verified. I work hard at remaining the opposite.

And really I suspect these guys are only the tip of the iceberg of who knows me and knows who I am. Kim Lee made a comment to Red that he has friends that moved to Las Vegas and made a lot of money (referencing me). I haven't met Kim Lee personally, but he would not have made that comment off the cuff, I don't think. I'll bet he knows people that know me or of me, enough to know I have made what I say.

A couple guys on this forum seem to know people and know people who know people. (that is the way this community works). I wouldn't be surprised if both know someone that knows me and could lead them right to me. I am speaking of mickeycrimm and Boz. I could be wrong, but I wouldn't be surprised. I also always thought that about Axelwolf, but I take him at his word that he doesn't. But maybe I can find him now (I already think I could have). What is his crew...the coin boys or something?

The problem is and it's not really a problem, but the situation is that Las Vegas despite 2 million people is a small community gambling-wise. people know one another and of one another ect. And that is both sides of the table, which is why I am super careful.

Anyway, Dawg I have 2 people at WoV that have seen me play multiple times. You have one guy that saw you play low limit once. How do you like those apples? Won't stop your lies I am sure. But you better stop this stalking activity of asking people for descriptions and information on me, or somebody might just get hurt. Take THAT to the bank.

That name was coined a long time ago by another AP who didn't know our names since we were new but coming on strong, he just knew that we were young and 2 of us had previously worked in the slot department and sold him change. The name stuck, at least untill we added more people to the team, most people were calling us somthing else at that point, other than a few OG's. At one point, we were a semi-merged team of 7 with employees. Pre-2010 people got into separate other things and other directions, like Poker, traveling, different careers, etc. I went back to being solo for some years.

After a health break and recovery, I decided I wanted to start up a new team.