Bob Dietz' Coming Appeararance On PokerFraudAlert Radio

[kewlJ]

Kew, read the posted facts....quotes and posts by others who see and know you as a misguided lowlife loser, who can do nothing but lie.

Rob, your "facts" are only facts in your Rob Singer land of delusion and make believe.

You want a fact? Here is one for you. When you post, do you know what every member of this forum sees? The Dale Gribble looking character, who climbed up in an RV he didn't own, pretending he did. Much like an 8 year old that is allowed to sit behind the wheel of a firetruck at the local fire station. THAT is who Rob Singer is to people here.

I know you are upset with (and jealous of) me. But I didn't do that. YOU did that!

Much the same as your buddy MDog with the oh so cool spelling. He is pissed at me. I am not the one who for 7 straight months posted that I won everyday totaling several million dollars only to be forced to admit I lied and was about even over that period. I didn't do that. HE did that.

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But you clowns do what you gotta do to make yourselves feel better. Not going to change any "facts" though. I am a winning advantage player, who has supported myself (fairly comfortably) from blackjack card counting/advantage play for 22 years now. While you BOTH are losing degenerate players telling stories that defy the math and reality.

And nothing either of you can do or say changes those fact. None of the trolling, attacks, lies, contacting people off forum and begging them....none of it can change what really is. And I love that!!!

Last night I had a pretty bad night playing blackjack on the strip, which happens with REAL advantage play and gambling. In a little over 3 hours I lost a good chunk of money. Enough that I had to quit early or replenish BR, so I just quit early. And then I come home, turn on the computer and read how miserable both you and your Dog buddy are, how jealous, miserable and just bitter you are. And it brings a smile to my face. So I guess I owe you a little gratitude for that. Keep it going!! keep telling and showing everyone how miserable and bitter you are.

[redietz]

If an interview ever happens Bob Dietz should be asked about snitching off advantage players to the online books.

We might as well just stop with this. It is never going to happen. Dietz is never going to do an interview. For years now he has been talking about doing an interview with Munchkin. Now you tell us he turned Munchkin down twice privately.

Now he talks about Druffs podcast, but every time the ball seems to move on that even a little bit, Dietz throws up roadblocks, like he needs to be in Las Vegas for a phone in interview. Weird.

And when you ask him a question about something he said that don't make sense, he now says to ask him on the interview....which he knows is never going to happen. It is a big shell game.

Bottom line, he can't answer the questions and reasonable explain anything, on a forum so he sure as hell isn't going to do so on a live interview.

Red just wants to tell a story about being a great sports bettor for 40 years, the second coming of Billy Walters, when there is nothing that points to that. He did well in a few contests, which is what the touts use to get new customers/clients. Big deal. That he even has all that documentation from decades ago is weird to me. I should have realized it was weird when he sent it to Alan.

It is very similar to Mdawg wanting to tell a story.

But I am done with Red. He is coming off the rails threatening people and shit. Good luck mickeycrimm, but don't hold your breath.

It's cut and dried he's never going to appear. But that doesn't mean he's off the hook. He's confessed to being a snitch, he's also anti-kelly and doesn't understand EV. If an appearance ever happens-it won't-he should be asked about all of this.

PS: Munchkin didn't say redietz turned him down twice, rather, Munchkin twice confirmed to me that redietz turned him down to appear on GWAE.

Munchkin never directly asked me to be on the show. I don't know how you folks conduct yourselves in a media environment, but I don't beg for or request interviews. If someone wants to interview me, they must bring it up. Otherwise, I'm just having lunch and a conversation.

I think what you guys fail to grasp is that this was a three-person lunch, and I have flat out asked the third person if I ever gave the impression that I turned down an interview. He didn't hesitate. He said definitely not. If you want me to recruit him to report that here, I'm pretty sure he'd do that. So let me know.

Also in the mix was the obvious lean to having a female on GWAE as opposed to a male. So I deferred to the idea of my superior half being on the show. I said I would ask her even though it was a long shot. She will, however, take Munchkin out to dinner at some point as they share some common interests.

I think you guys are completely off the rails on your Kelly Criterion application for sports betting. Go read actual definitions of Kelly Criterion. Jesus, guys, I played hoops with the PSU math faculty/grad team for years. This stuff is basic. Application of Kelly Criterion depends on one's perception of "EV." Since rules, personnel, and coaching, and quality-of-personnel distributions change year to year, sometimes dramatically, and especially for college sports, you really should not be making hard-and-fast (i.e. semi-crystalline) projections of your personal future success based on past outcomes. It's arrogant. It's stupid. It's an intellectual overreach. Every college season is its own, often dramatically different, thing.

What you are doing is assigning a degree of precision to your process that is not merited until you have established that you know what you are doing any given year. And by then, in college football, the season is almost over and now you get to insert Nov/Dec weather (among other, more crucial considerations) into your alleged precision.

But everybody knows this. LOL. Except you guys.

[accountinquestion]

We might as well just stop with this. It is never going to happen. Dietz is never going to do an interview. For years now he has been talking about doing an interview with Munchkin. Now you tell us he turned Munchkin down twice privately.

Now he talks about Druffs podcast, but every time the ball seems to move on that even a little bit, Dietz throws up roadblocks, like he needs to be in Las Vegas for a phone in interview. Weird.

And when you ask him a question about something he said that don't make sense, he now says to ask him on the interview....which he knows is never going to happen. It is a big shell game.

Bottom line, he can't answer the questions and reasonable explain anything, on a forum so he sure as hell isn't going to do so on a live interview.

Red just wants to tell a story about being a great sports bettor for 40 years, the second coming of Billy Walters, when there is nothing that points to that. He did well in a few contests, which is what the touts use to get new customers/clients. Big deal. That he even has all that documentation from decades ago is weird to me. I should have realized it was weird when he sent it to Alan.

It is very similar to Mdawg wanting to tell a story.

But I am done with Red. He is coming off the rails threatening people and shit. Good luck mickeycrimm, but don't hold your breath.

It's cut and dried he's never going to appear. But that doesn't mean he's off the hook. He's confessed to being a snitch, he's also anti-kelly and doesn't understand EV. If an appearance ever happens-it won't-he should be asked about all of this.

PS: Munchkin didn't say redietz turned him down twice, rather, Munchkin twice confirmed to me that redietz turned him down to appear on GWAE.

Munchkin never directly asked me to be on the show. I don't know how you folks conduct yourselves in a media environment, but I don't beg for or request interviews. If someone wants to interview me, they must bring it up. Otherwise, I'm just having lunch and a conversation.

I think what you guys fail to grasp is that this was a three-person lunch, and I have flat out asked the third person if I ever gave the impression that I turned down an interview. He didn't hesitate. He said definitely not. If you want me to recruit him to report that here, I'm pretty sure he'd do that. So let me know.

Also in the mix was the obvious lean to having a female on GWAE as opposed to a male. So I deferred to the idea of my superior half being on the show. I said I would ask her even though it was a long shot. She will, however, take Munchkin out to dinner at some point as they share some common interests.

I think you guys are completely off the rails on your Kelly Criterion application for sports betting. Go read actual definitions of Kelly Criterion. Jesus, guys, I played hoops with the PSU math faculty/grad team for years. This stuff is basic. Application of Kelly Criterion depends on one's perception of "EV." Since rules, personnel, and coaching, and quality-of-personnel distributions change year to year, sometimes dramatically, and especially for college sports, you really should not be making hard-and-fast (i.e. semi-crystalline) projections of your personal future success based on past outcomes. It's arrogant. It's stupid. It's an intellectual overreach. Every college season is its own, often dramatically different, thing.

What you are doing is assigning a degree of precision to your process that is not merited until you have established that you know what you are doing any given year. And by then, in college football, the season is almost over and now you get to insert Nov/Dec weather (among other, more crucial considerations) into your alleged precision.

But everybody knows this. LOL. Except you guys.

But everybody else can pay their tax bill. LOL. Except you guy.

The best thing is redietz is so bothered by the APs on this forum that he ignores the masses of successful bettors who would also agree that he is ignorant at best.

[MDawg]

Last night I had a pretty bad night

Vegas too empty to get tricks and so you're broke and whiney? What’s going on dear man, please tell us.

[redietz]

It's cut and dried he's never going to appear. But that doesn't mean he's off the hook. He's confessed to being a snitch, he's also anti-kelly and doesn't understand EV. If an appearance ever happens-it won't-he should be asked about all of this.

PS: Munchkin didn't say redietz turned him down twice, rather, Munchkin twice confirmed to me that redietz turned him down to appear on GWAE.

Munchkin never directly asked me to be on the show. I don't know how you folks conduct yourselves in a media environment, but I don't beg for or request interviews. If someone wants to interview me, they must bring it up. Otherwise, I'm just having lunch and a conversation.

I think what you guys fail to grasp is that this was a three-person lunch, and I have flat out asked the third person if I ever gave the impression that I turned down an interview. He didn't hesitate. He said definitely not. If you want me to recruit him to report that here, I'm pretty sure he'd do that. So let me know.

Also in the mix was the obvious lean to having a female on GWAE as opposed to a male. So I deferred to the idea of my superior half being on the show. I said I would ask her even though it was a long shot. She will, however, take Munchkin out to dinner at some point as they share some common interests.

I think you guys are completely off the rails on your Kelly Criterion application for sports betting. Go read actual definitions of Kelly Criterion. Jesus, guys, I played hoops with the PSU math faculty/grad team for years. This stuff is basic. Application of Kelly Criterion depends on one's perception of "EV." Since rules, personnel, and coaching, and quality-of-personnel distributions change year to year, sometimes dramatically, and especially for college sports, you really should not be making hard-and-fast (i.e. semi-crystalline) projections of your personal future success based on past outcomes. It's arrogant. It's stupid. It's an intellectual overreach. Every college season is its own, often dramatically different, thing.

What you are doing is assigning a degree of precision to your process that is not merited until you have established that you know what you are doing any given year. And by then, in college football, the season is almost over and now you get to insert Nov/Dec weather (among other, more crucial considerations) into your alleged precision.

But everybody knows this. LOL. Except you guys.

But everybody else can pay their tax bill. LOL. Except you guy.

The best thing is redietz is so bothered by the APs on this forum that he ignores the masses of successful bettors who would also agree that he is ignorant at best.

Indubitably.

Will be moving in 20 days. Toss-up between the big green dumpster outside of You-Store-It and the back of my van (down by the river). Van will be parked, when it's not down by the river, in the shadow of Bristol Motor Speedway. Saves on air conditioning.

[MisterV]

Will be moving in 20 days. Toss-up between the big green dumpster outside of You-Store-It and the back of my van (down by the river). Van will be parked, when it's not down by the river, in the shadow of Bristol Motor Speedway. Saves on air conditioning.

Understood.

No matter what hovel you wind up in make sure there's good cell reception; you have a pod cast to do.

[kewlJ]

The best thing is redietz is so bothered by the APs on this forum

This is interesting. When I started on this forum, which wasn't that long before you, there was a definite AP/anti-AP divide. There were more members then and more AP's that talked at least some about what they did, which infuriated a core group of anti-AP or AP hater, who at that time were Rob Singer, blackhole, coach belly, and I hate to say it but the late Alan Mendelson, although Alan was much less "nasty" about it than the others.. This was before Mdawg. Seems like I am forgetting somebody, but it isn't rediets.

So most of the AP-haters were pretty obvious, losing degenerate gamblers that just hated players that actually played with an advantage and won. Coach belly, well no one is really sure what his story is. I always that he or a family member might be pro-casino, as in worked for casinos, which by nature would make him anti-Ap. But who knows. he could just be a crackpot that hates life, his life and everyone else.

Now Redeitz, well he wasn't really and AP, but with most discussions and arguments breaking Aps vs anti-APs, he was on the side of APs. He seemed to at least understand the math and all.

Now somewhere along the line Redietz changed. The first thing was his problem with APs trying to maintain as much anonymity as possible. I still cant figure out for the life of me how someone that claims to have spent the time he has in Vegas, doesn't understand why APs and real winning players would need to remain as anonymous as they can. You don't have to be an Ap to understand that.

The next real change came when some APs, axelwolf, mickeycrimm and then myself, began doing some advantage play involving sports betting. You could almost literally see Red rip his hair out. (to where he now has none...). "How dare APs do anything involving sports betting". And he has only grown angrier and nastier since til he is now a full fledged anti-APer.

Now who knows the entire story from Redietz. he gave us this crap for years about being one of the top sports bettor and it was backed up with documentation from doing well in some cherry-picked contests. But now that all the evidence is in, it doesn't appear he was able to pick winners at a rate that would lead to any real money. And it doesn't even appear he actually bet enough to win any real money. He was just a guy that could pick 53% (break even) and so he sold his picks. Who knows how he did as a tout? Does anyone really even care? Touting isn't gambling. It is more like selling condos or something. Maybe he is the worlds greatest tout and made mega bucks, because God Knows the cost of living is pretty damn high in East Bum Tennessee.

I don't wish him any harm. You can see he is upset that his story came crashing down, but just like the other trollls, who's fault is that?

I would still love to hear an interview with a good knowledgeable interviewer who would ask the right questions and hopefully some means for people from this forum that want to ask questions be able to participate. But that really isn't going to happen. And in the absence of that, For me, I think I will just as leave let Red be. I don't need another trollfest situation that never ends. So I will just wish Red well. Seriously.

[MDawg]

The reason people call you a liar is because you have a habit of lying on forums. How is that hard to understand?