Update on the KJ AP experience

[mcap]

Really?

that is a distinction without a difference. You think you can play two cycles because YOU CAMOUFLAGED YOUR BET SPREAD by using two of them. Same shit. I think you don't remember correctly unless I'm misremembering....there were examples but not a "this is how you do it," the message was to customize it for your own needs.

Your ego and thinking it's something special is leading you to talk too much for no personal benefit. If you want the last word I won't escalate it, don't want to get quoted by mdogshit out of context again;

[kewlJ]

Really?

that is a distinction without a difference. You think you can play two cycles because YOU CAMOUFLAGED YOUR BET SPREAD by using two of them. Same shit. I would add a little but don't want to get quoted by mdogshit.

You can call it camo or cover if you want, but that really isn't what it is. It is 2 distinct cycles or sessions at the same table using 2 completely different bet spreads. And yes, I KNOW you can play 2 cycles because that is what I have been doing since I switched up my play to playing busier weekend times. The very short sessions exiting after showing spread doesn't work well in more crowded conditions, so I needed to come up with a way to get in more play at one table. A second completely different spread allows for a second cycle at the same table. It is like playing a second session but at the same table.

By the time you finish up the second cycle at the second bet spread, if someone had watched closely, they might begin to suspect something. But it would take a computer evaluation to really see it. And I am walking out the door just about the time they would be thinking about a computer evaluation.

Don't worry about that troll person and his quotes. He has already proven he knows nothing about advantage blackjack play and his quotes only further prove that he is NOTHING but a troll. Don't live your life worrying about such a person. Since I placed him and Singer on ignore, I see none of their trolling posts. I see that they posted and can guess what kind of garbage, but really it is no different than the homeless people pushing a shopping cart mumbling incoherently that I encounter almost every day. these guys just mumble to themselves on intenet forums.

[kewlJ]

BTW, Richard Reid was really before my time. I guess everyone was before my time (Wong, Revere, Schlesinger) and I still read their books. But I didn't read Reid's book or books if he did multiple. I am now thinking I would like to take a look, but it looks like it is out of print.

[MHF]

That's some funny shit, from the Mcap. Ha.

Trying to take on the KJ. About as much luck as with Trasha, Singer, and Red, the runaway "trains" of the forum.

[MDawg]

TWO "well-known local AP's" who know him and have seen him play.

There's no doubt I have the right guy. Like I said, "I can pick you out of a police line up"

I said that's what I believed at the time. From my understanding and what I've been told he certainly isn't a white guy. I don't know if it's specific Islander, f****** Asian, Hawaiian, I don't f****** know.

Then it was confirmed by somebody else that yeah that's the partner dude that they knew to be with KJ.

[mcap]

Really?

that is a distinction without a difference. You think you can play two cycles because YOU CAMOUFLAGED YOUR BET SPREAD by using two of them. Same shit. I would add a little but don't want to get quoted by mdogshit.

You can call it camo or cover if you want, but that really isn't what it is. It is 2 distinct cycles or sessions at the same table using 2 completely different bet spreads.

Ok I lied I'm responding. Again, this is a distinction without a difference. I don't know how you don't get that. They have similarities and have the same end goal of buying more time. They don't have to be the exact same thing for that to be true.

Dr. Reid's book would be available to subscriber's on your buddy Qtip's forum.....think Reid lost stuff in a fire or something so couldn't or didn't continue to publish idk. Maybe he'll welcome you back with open arms....

[MDawg]

You’re going into these elaborate logic chains that aren’t ALL that different from saying you couldn’t possibly count cards for a living in Las Vegas for over a decade….

[mcap]

You’re going into these elaborate logic chains that aren’t ALL that different from saying you couldn’t possibly count cards for a living in Las Vegas for over a decade….

Don't you have some canned fish to eat mdogshit?

[Tasha]

Since Kewlj brought up my PRIVATE MESSAGE to him PUBLICLY and has no qualms about doing so, here is my PRIVATE MESSAGE to him in question I gave to him in PRIVATE. Not only did he NOT help me out, he PUBLICLY HUMILIATED me when I was in a low spot and REALLY needed his help.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/kEDZmpVk3LuR4Z4z8

[MisterV]

Since Kewlj brought up my PRIVATE MESSAGE to him PUBLICLY and has no qualms about doing so, here is my PRIVATE MESSAGE to him in question I gave to him in PRIVATE. Not only did he NOT help me out, he PUBLICLY HUMILIATED me when I was in a low spot and REALLY needed his help.

What type of idiot asks strangers to loan her a Franklin?

LOL...this type: black, broke, and shittin' de flo;: the VCT trifecta.

Reminds me of an incident yesterday as I was exiting an on ramp from one hwy to another.

I espied a car on the side of the road with the driver waving his hand, flagging me down for aid: I stopped and rolled down the psgr window to talk to the guy, who was an older guy, looked swarthy and sort of odd: I pegged him for a gypsy.

Sure enough, just as Karen hustles strangers he tried the well worn gypsy scam on me.

With great emotion he leaned in and held out his hands, holding a large ring in one and a watch in the other, whining about needing money: I'd seen this scam tried before by a gypsy woman at a gas station: sorry Charlie, "fuck off."

As I pulled away I saw him flag down another vehicle.

[Tasha]

Since Kewlj brought up my PRIVATE MESSAGE to him PUBLICLY and has no qualms about doing so, here is my PRIVATE MESSAGE to him in question I gave to him in PRIVATE. Not only did he NOT help me out, he PUBLICLY HUMILIATED me when I was in a low spot and REALLY needed his help.

What type of idiot asks strangers to loan her a Franklin?

LOL...this type: black, broke, and shittin' de flo;: the VCT trifecta.

Reminds me of an incident yesterday as I was exiting an on ramp from one hwy to another.

I espied a car on the side of the road with the driver waving his hand, flagging me down for aid: I stopped and rolled down the psgr window to talk to the guy, who was an older guy, looked swarthy and sort of odd: I pegged him for a gypsy.

Sure enough, just as Karen hustles strangers he tried the well worn gypsy scam on me.

With great emotion he leaned in and held out his hands, holding a large ring in one and a watch in the other, whining about needing money: I'd seen this scam tried before by a gypsy woman at a gas station: sorry Charlie, "fuck off."

As I pulled away I saw him flag down another vehicle.

Not an Idiot, just desperate that my bank account where I get my direct deposit paychecks was temporarily closed because of a SMALL overdraft mistake. I thought Kewlj would realize I was in a bad spot and help me out. Instead he didn't help me out and PUBLICLY HUMILIATED me instead when I asked him for help in a PRIVATE MESSAGE. I told Kewlj something like," You PUBLICLY HUMILIATED me in my time of need. I hope YOU end up needing MY help and I tell you off instead and refuse to help you out. I then said something like,"I hope you end up asking a completely different person for help in your time of need in a PRIVATE MESSAGE and that person DOESN'T HELP you in your time of need and PUBLICLY HUMILIATES you. I then said something like," "Fortunes can change REALLY quickly. Today's struggling person could be tomorrow's wealthy CEO. Today's wealthy CEO could become tomorrow's struggling person. Remember this."

[Tasha]

Since Kewlj brought up my PRIVATE MESSAGE to him PUBLICLY and has no qualms about doing so, here is my PRIVATE MESSAGE to him in question I gave to him in PRIVATE. Not only did he NOT help me out, he PUBLICLY HUMILIATED me when I was in a low spot and REALLY needed his help.

What type of idiot asks strangers to loan her a Franklin?

LOL...this type: black, broke, and shittin' de flo;: the VCT trifecta.

Reminds me of an incident yesterday as I was exiting an on ramp from one hwy to another.

I espied a car on the side of the road with the driver waving his hand, flagging me down for aid: I stopped and rolled down the psgr window to talk to the guy, who was an older guy, looked swarthy and sort of odd: I pegged him for a gypsy.

Sure enough, just as Karen hustles strangers he tried the well worn gypsy scam on me.

With great emotion he leaned in and held out his hands, holding a large ring in one and a watch in the other, whining about needing money: I'd seen this scam tried before by a gypsy woman at a gas station: sorry Charlie, "fuck off."

As I pulled away I saw him flag down another vehicle.

Not an Idiot, just desperate that my bank account where I get my direct deposit paychecks was temporarily closed because of a SMALL overdraft mistake. I thought Kewlj would realize I was in a bad spot and help me out. Instead he didn't help me out and PUBLICLY HUMILIATED me instead when I asked him for help in a PRIVATE MESSAGE. I told Kewlj something like," You PUBLICLY HUMILIATED me in my time of need. I hope YOU end up needing MY help and I tell you off instead and refuse to help you out. I then said something like,"I hope you end up asking a completely different person for help in your time of need in a PRIVATE MESSAGE and that person DOESN'T HELP you in your time of need and PUBLICLY HUMILIATES you. I then said something like," "Fortunes can change REALLY quickly. Today's struggling person could be tomorrow's wealthy CEO. Today's wealthy CEO could become tomorrow's struggling person. Remember this."

[MisterV]

"Fortunes can change REALLY quickly. Today's struggling person could be tomorrow's wealthy CEO. Today's wealthy CEO could become tomorrow's struggling person. Remember this."

Karen, YOU need to remember that today's struggling person will never become tomorrow's CEO.

You clearly imply that you, seemingly this board's biggest loser and failure at life, will somehow be elevated to the position of CEO of a corporation in 24 hours.

Bwa ha ha ha

Just more of your fantasy bullshit, like time traveling gay doppelgangers profusely thanking and welcoming each other while yearning silently... shitty pulp fiction.

Look, I know it must really suck to be you but you need to face the fact that you'll never achieve your dreams of being a successful AP, CEO, and asexual writer of popular fiction: you simply haven't got what it takes.

[soxfan]

Bbbwwaaahh the kewl-j "ap experience" is like the Cosmo Kramer "real Peterman" bus tour, hey hey.

[kewlJ]

I am trying to understand this Tasha shit.

Tasha sent the Pm begging for money. When I shared that publicly, we learned she had done the same with other. Which I suspected.

At that time she jumped up and down screening that I had humiliated her (when if there was an humiliating that took place....she did it to herself). She was SO humiliated that she stopped posting for several weeks IIRC.

So after it blew over, what did she do. She has brought it up again, not once, not twice but at least 3 different times, to re-ignite and re-hash that humiliation? And now she has added a screenshot of the actual PM.

What am I missing here? I know MrV and Boz claim tasha loves to be humiliated. Is that what is going on?


BTW, I go back and forth in my mind as to whether this Tasha person is really this persona that she claims, a black, Jamaican woman, broke, poor, lower edge of society, or whether that is all an act? (probably part of some sort of scam). This whole weird Tasha rehashing of the most humiliating experience of her life isn't going tpo put that to rest for me. Something weird going on. Always is though.

[MisterV]

KJ, I too have had doubts about her, suspecting it's a guy pretending to be her, but Druff swears she's what she seems to be, and that seems to have been confirmed when she appeared on his program.

Someone posted a link and I heard what certainly sounded like a woman who inter alia said her real name was Karen and that she looked like that Huxstable woman on the Cosby show.

Whether she's a masochist or an attention whore is tough to determine: she's likely both.

Whatever, her posts regularly shit the flo' here at VCT.

[kewlJ]

Bbbwwaaahh the kewl-j "ap experience" is like the Cosmo Kramer "real Peterman" bus tour, hey hey.

Look Mate. Advantage play is about 2 things. 1) something mathematical that gives the player the advantage and 2) how the player is able to play and keep playing against an industry that will do everything to stop winning players.

With blackjack card counting, there is no reason to even talk about the math. Everyone knows the math. It is well established and beyond contestation. More high cards remaining to be played....advantage player. So blackjack card counting today and for a while now, has really been about how you can play so that you can keep playing and are welcome to keep playing. It is that second part that a player has to come up with some things to achieve longevity. And I have shared some of what I do and has worked.

Now people like you, goofball soxfan, as well as Singer and Mdawg before you, can't and don't even explain the math that would afford you any advantage. It is just some top secret thing....the holy grail that you have discovered that mathematician have been searching for years.....for centuries, have missed. THAT is what you have us believe. Never any mention of anything specific and any general type mention of anything ALWAYS includes some long dis-proven voodoo concepts.

So there is no real math to what you are claiming. Only fantasy of something you wish were true. And THAT before we even get to part 2 of how you would be allowed to play, if you were doing something at an advantage. I mean we can't even get to that part because your part 1...the hasn't been explained or solved. It is just fantasy. Like every other gambling system or betting system. You guys are searching for something that doesn't exist. What you claim is fantasy.

Have and show some math or just climb back under your rock.

[kewlJ]

Really?

that is a distinction without a difference. You think you can play two cycles because YOU CAMOUFLAGED YOUR BET SPREAD by using two of them. Same shit. I would add a little but don't want to get quoted by mdogshit.

You can call it camo or cover if you want, but that really isn't what it is. It is 2 distinct cycles or sessions at the same table using 2 completely different bet spreads.

Ok I lied I'm responding. Again, this is a distinction without a difference. I don't know how you don't get that. They have similarities and have the same end goal of buying more time. They don't have to be the exact same thing for that to be true.

Dr. Reid's book would be available to subscriber's on your buddy Qtip's forum.....think Reid lost stuff in a fire or something so couldn't or didn't continue to publish idk. Maybe he'll welcome you back with open arms....

Norm is the gate keeper. Great!!!

Not to keep this going but a lot of what I do betting wise falls under the umbrella of Opposition betting. Two player that wrote and talked a lot about opposition betting were Richard Ried and Arnold Snyder. And just by circumstance, not intentionally, I didn't read any of Reid's books (I don't believe) and very little of Snyder's many books. I was much more influenced by Wong, Revere and Schlesinger and later even Norm's Modern blackjack.

So how did I come to employ some of these opposition wagering techniques if I didn't read these guys books? I communicated with people that did. One of those players was Zengrifter. I don't know your view on Zengrifter, but a lot of people don't care much for him, holding a non-blackjack issue against him, for which he went to Prison for. I don't focus on or judge on that. My communications with Zengrifter over the years and there were many back when his forum was alive, were strictly about blackjack. he had a lot of outside the box thinking about things and one of them was opposition betting. he was very big on that because he was strongly influenced by Snyder (and probably Richard Reid). So while I didn't read their opposition betting stuff directly, indirectly some of it made its way to me.

Bottom line is opposition betting in general and some of the specific things I do like multiple bet spreads, and spreading both ways, which fall under that umbrella of opposition betting, really work. And by "work" I mean buy you extra time before an evaluation. That is the what card counting is about in the 2020's. Extending your time of playing before an evaluation.

[kewlJ]

And just a quick word on "spreading both ways". I am sure Mcap understands what this is but for the non BJ foilks, the wager you place at a 0 count or completely neutral count, like at the start of a game is not your minimum wager of your spread like in traditional card counting. It is an amount that is anywhere from 2-3 times that actual smallest wager.

I will give an example using actual numbers. $25-$300 bet spread. That is a good healthy spread of 1-12. Wouldn't take too long before a player spreading 1-12 is busted. maybe the second time through the spread cycle. So with a spreading both ways, your initial bet (off the to and at zero counts) is $75 spreading to $300 during max bet counts. To pit that records your first bet usually, that looks like a 1-4 bet spread and most places even at higher limits won't be too concerned about that.

But when the count drops below 0, you drop your bet to $25 until you hit your exit trigger. So you still are utilizing a 1-12 spread, just with a little cost for some higher bets at the zero count.

BUT, and here is the big part, for pit to see your full 1-12 spread the count has to go from negative 1 or negative 2 all the way through the whole cycle to max bet (+4 for me). all in the same shoe.

* If the count starts at 0 and goes positive to max bet they only see a 1-4 spread.
* If the count goes negative and you drop from $75 to $25, they see a reverse 3-1 spread.
* They have to see both parts in the same shoe to see a 1-12 spread and that simply doesn't happen too often, believe it or not.

So it is all about buying time and more bet cycles, or another word for that "Longevity".

Now just imagine if you start to combine some of these things. What you end up with is 10-15 years of playing longevity in a place where everyone is scratching their head asking how?

[kewlJ]

Or of course, you can just claim you are rainman and win that way. (but even that wouldn't explain the part 2 of casinos allowing you to continue to play and win).

So I think you can begin to see why I have an issue with these people telling stories. Two parts to advantage play, 1 mathematical advantage and 2 what you do to be able to play. These fiction writers and their claims, can't and don't meet either.