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    And just a quick word on "spreading both ways". I am sure Mcap understands what this is but for the non BJ foilks, the wager you place at a 0 count or completely neutral count, like at the start of a game is not your minimum wager of your spread like in traditional card counting. It is an amount that is anywhere from 2-3 times that actual smallest wager.

    I will give an example using actual numbers. $25-$300 bet spread. That is a good healthy spread of 1-12. Wouldn't take too long before a player spreading 1-12 is busted. maybe the second time through the spread cycle. So with a spreading both ways, your initial bet (off the to and at zero counts) is $75 spreading to $300 during max bet counts. To pit that records your first bet usually, that looks like a 1-4 bet spread and most places even at higher limits won't be too concerned about that.

    But when the count drops below 0, you drop your bet to $25 until you hit your exit trigger. So you still are utilizing a 1-12 spread, just with a little cost for some higher bets at the zero count.

    BUT, and here is the big part, for pit to see your full 1-12 spread the count has to go from negative 1 or negative 2 all the way through the whole cycle to max bet (+4 for me). all in the same shoe.

    * If the count starts at 0 and goes positive to max bet they only see a 1-4 spread.
    * If the count goes negative and you drop from $75 to $25, they see a reverse 3-1 spread.
    * They have to see both parts in the same shoe to see a 1-12 spread and that simply doesn't happen too often, believe it or not.

    So it is all about buying time and more bet cycles, or another word for that "Longevity".

    Now just imagine if you start to combine some of these things. What you end up with is 10-15 years of playing longevity in a place where everyone is scratching their head asking how?
    Last edited by kewlJ; 06-13-2025 at 02:17 PM.
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