Big Casino Wins and Jackpots

[Alan Mendelson]

The reason Alan's wins are never challenged? Simple. He says he loses.

Yes, Rob, I have hit big winners too, but I also admit to losing. But you not only never lose, but you keep hitting big winners consistently while playing only short sessions... and you can't seem to understand the "problem" with that?

And by the way----over, & OUT! I'm banning myself for winning.

I think this would be classified as a "sports bet" and I think redietz should give us the morning line on this bet -- I might be interested.

[Alan Mendelson]

The entire paytable at the 5 coin column is missing in both pictures and the $5 denomination isn't centered within the oval graphic.

Below is a photo I took at Caesars recently when I hit quad aces on Bonus Poker for $2,000 on the NEW IGT machines. Notice the $5 denomination is not centered in the circle, and note the large amount of red in the fifth coin payout amount.

By the way I did not post this previously because... I was embarrassed by what happened. At one point I was showing a profit of more than $4800 but I lost it all... and then another $5K in markers playing craps.

[a2a3dseddie]

So it is. I stand corrected Alan. I apologize. It is possible then, that Rob didn't photo shop his picture and that it's just someone else's jackpot.

[Alan Mendelson]

So it is. I stand corrected Alan. I apologize. It is possible then, that Rob didn't photo shop his picture and that it's just someone else's jackpot.

Let me give you two other options:

1. Rob is telling the truth. Or...

2. Rob won the money, but isn't exactly honest about the amount of time there, or how much he originally lost, or how much he later lost.

I take all of these "win reports" with a boulder of salt. I know that people win big -- and it really is a function of the denomination you play. But unless I see a casino-generated win/loss statement or I am there to log every play I "know better" than to accept the claims and reports that come from players at casinos.

It's like when you sit in the waiting area at the airport in Vegas and you listen to everybody on their cell phones.... they all talk about their "wins" but no one mentions their losses.

I think it's perfectly okay to talk about the wins and congratulations for getting them. But don't tell me what a great long term winner you are without the "undeniable proof" (to paraphrase a famous quote).

[a2a3dseddie]

I think it's perfectly okay to talk about the wins and congratulations for getting them. But don't tell me what a great long term winner you are without the "undeniable proof" (to paraphrase a famous quote).

Bravo. Did you read that Rob?

[slingshot]

Rob, a reader sent me this question about your strategy: how do you cash out the "soft wins" on each hand? Do you actually hit the cash out button and then insert new money/tickets? Or what is the actual procedure you follow?

Nice hit Rob. Does this mean you are now playing video poker on a daily basis?

That is a good question, Alan. I think it is done by cashing out-because it would be easy to lose track of where you are. I suppose one would keep extra money to restart in case you're at a good machine and don't want to risk losing it by getting up to cash out.

[slingshot]

Below is a photo I took at Caesars recently when I hit quad aces on Bonus Poker for $2,000 on the NEW IGT machines. Notice the $5 denomination is not centered in the circle, and note the large amount of red in the fifth coin payout amount.

By the way I did not post this previously because... I was embarrassed by what happened. At one point I was showing a profit of more than $4800 but I lost it all... and then another $5K in markers playing craps.

Know the feeling. Not gonna post any wins myself until I can control giving most of it back.

[Vegas_lover]

Let me give you two other options:

1. Rob is telling the truth. Or...

2. Rob won the money, but isn't exactly honest about the amount of time there, or how much he originally lost, or how much he later lost.

Option 3:
Rob has never stopped playing VP (professional or recreational) at all and has been running millions and millions of dollars through the machines. He's been playing VP almost every day all this time, lost big time and got some big wins. He holds on to his big win pictures for a while and then comes here and posts them in a couple of days and tells stories of wonderful successful VP-sessions and how he uses the VP-machines as his personal ATM's. Than "he goes back to living the good life for a while", travelling, enjoying the money he won while in reality he's just playing VP everyday living the lifestyle of a gambling addict. But hey, at least he's sticking to his story about being the VP-God and how all his fantastic wins are a result of his "strategy".

Option 4:
Rob has mental issues and can't control his life in lala-land and lies about almost everything, every day (in his online life).

Personally I think it's a combination of 2, 3 and 4.

[Spock]

That is a good question, Alan. I think it is done by cashing out-because it would be easy to lose track of where you are. I suppose one would keep extra money to restart in case you're at a good machine and don't want to risk losing it by getting up to cash out.

You think? You suppose? I thought you had been playing using Rob's system for many years now. The "soft profits" are supposed to be a huge part of "winning" using Singers systems. Have you not had to actually DO this virtually every time you have played?

[a2a3dseddie]

You think? You suppose? I thought you had been playing using Rob's system for many years now. The "soft profits" are supposed to be a huge part of "winning" using Singers systems. Have you not had to actually DO this virtually every time you have played?

Slingshot has admitted to having a gambling problem and being a long term loser at the casinos despite trying to follow the teachings of Rob Singer for years. Rob doesn't bully or insult him though because slingshot seems to revere Rob and doesn't ask any difficult questions. He's also Rob's only vocal supporter on this forum.

And therein lies (lies! Get it?) the problem with the Kool-Aid Rob is drinking and serving up. There are always some misguided people who can't control their own thoughts or actions and might read about Rob's fantasies about winning $100, 000 jackpots every ten minutes in casinos all across America and want to try it themselves.

That's when a predator like Rob swoops in to steal their player's club points, bum their cigarettes or mooch a meal. Worse yet the kindness of other people gives in and they might actually give Rob some money just to stop him from begging.

[slingshot]

You think? You suppose? I thought you had been playing using Rob's system for many years now. The "soft profits" are supposed to be a huge part of "winning" using Singers systems. Have you not had to actually DO this virtually every time you have played?

NO. Rob's SPS strategy I've never used-I think it requires 2400 credits and I'm a lowly nickel, dime, quarter player and use the simpler strategies. The "soft" profits would be like $5-15 and are easily subtracted from the 400 credits required for the other strategies.

[slingshot]

Slingshot has admitted to having a gambling problem and being a long term loser at the casinos despite trying to follow the teachings of Rob Singer for years. Rob doesn't bully or insult him though because slingshot seems to revere Rob and doesn't ask any difficult questions. He's also Rob's only vocal supporter on this forum.

And therein lies (lies! Get it?) the problem with the Kool-Aid Rob is drinking and serving up. There are always some misguided people who can't control their own thoughts or actions and might read about Rob's fantasies about winning $100, 000 jackpots every ten minutes in casinos all across America and want to try it themselves.

That's when a predator like Rob swoops in to steal their player's club points, bum their cigarettes or mooch a meal. Worse yet the kindness of other people gives in and they might actually give Rob some money just to stop him from begging.

My losses are not due to my play but rather,as Alan has experienced, not quitting when ahead. And I'm not talking about what you guys think of as a win-$10 or some stupid little win goal like that you feel is the basis of winning all the time. To revere someone else is to not believe in yourself-to learn from someone else and have enough sense to apply it creatively is another matter. To downplay others shows much weakness.

[Alan Mendelson]

My losses are not due to my play but rather,as Alan has experienced, not quitting when ahead.

Whoa... are you saying that EVERY time you play you are ahead by a large amount at some point, and this is due to the method of Rob Singer that you follow?

[redietz]

It's conceivable that Rob, if he plays as much as Dancer, routinely should hit these kinds of jackpots on these kinds of machines. Even pumping in 30 hours a week would result in these jackpots. Of course, posting the winners without mentioning the losses, that's like a person saying they won 100 wagers in a football season without mentioning they lost 110.

As eddie said above, if people want to use Rob's system based on what he's posted recently, they are in for a rude awakening. The forum site holds some of the responsibility if this happens. I say this because provably bad statistical advice is bad statistical advice, whether it's jackpots or cancer cures or dating advice. If someone came on here with far fetched information about how their diet or workout regimen put cancer into remission, and posted anecdotal evidence -- letters written by anonymous people -- should a forum really allow them to keep posting? Is that freedom of information or irresponsibility? I say this because Alan is no more a gambling "expert" than he is a cancer "expert," so if you're going to allow posted "jackpots as proof of a gambling system," then why not post similar evidence of other systems?

I actually had no problem with Rob's previous stuff, as the differences in his return versus AP's should have been marginal, and "his way" provides certain pluses. But this latest "I sit for 10 minutes and win oodles and never lose" nonsense is really irresponsible.

[Spock]

NO. Rob's SPS strategy I've never used-I think it requires 2400 credits and I'm a lowly nickel, dime, quarter player and use the simpler strategies. The "soft" profits would be like $5-15 and are easily subtracted from the 400 credits required for the other strategies.

I still don't understand this. How do you subtract them from the 400 credits? Do you just make a mental note of it? Do you keep a running tab with a pen and paper? It doesn't seem to me that it would matter much if it was 5 or 15 dollars or one hundred; you still need to keep track of it.

[a2a3dseddie]

My losses are not due to my play but rather,as Alan has experienced, not quitting when ahead. And I'm not talking about what you guys think of as a win-$10 or some stupid little win goal like that you feel is the basis of winning all the time. To revere someone else is to not believe in yourself-to learn from someone else and have enough sense to apply it creatively is another matter. To downplay others shows much weakness.

Slingshot, I have no quarrel with you. But wasn't it you playing with your money and not quitting when ahead? An argument anyone could make was that they lost because they didn't quit while they were ahead. Your own losses are always due to your own play.

Maybe revere was the wrong word. How would you define your attitude towards Rob Singer? Aren't you even a little bit skeptical of his claims? And as far as "downplaying others", no one here does that more than Rob Singer.

[Dan Druff]

Rob,

A few questions for you regarding your New Orleans trip:

1) When did you receive your free flight to New Orleans offer?

2) What were the exact details of this offer?

3) How did you redeem it (that is, please explain the process you used to redeem it)?

4) You said this offer was made because of your heavy play in a different casino. When was that play?

[Alan Mendelson]

Redietz I don't think posting photos of big wins proves anything. Do you? If you want me to stop the posting of jackpot photos my response to you is I won't.

I think posting jackpot photos has one purpose and one purpose only: to show how you got lucky.

[slingshot]

I still don't understand this. How do you subtract them from the 400 credits? Do you just make a mental note of it? Do you keep a running tab with a pen and paper? It doesn't seem to me that it would matter much if it was 5 or 15 dollars or one hundred; you still need to keep track of it.

Well, if I get a win goal of $15-20, say-I know have 480 credits. 100 credits would start the next session, if I stayed on the same machine. I play these and if I don't win, I then play 300 credits of the remaining 380-and if I win on ddbp, I just remove the ticket and cash the whole thing out and move to another machine or go home(more often, I wish)

[slingshot]

Whoa... are you saying that EVERY time you play you are ahead by a large amount at some point, and this is due to the method of Rob Singer that you follow?

Well, like today I hit $200 and didn't leave and went down to $100. I hate to admit it, but I have trouble stopping-I really enjoy the action. Now remember, top denom is quarters for me, so to me that's a large amount.