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Thread: #1 seed versus best regular season record in baseball

  1. #1
    I think adamantly they're the same thing, but apparently not because the odds differ so greatly on these bets. Can someone explain the nuance to me? I just noticed the difference, this is for both leagues the best regular season record. I do now know the difference, but I would rather take some better odds laying the money even if the end result is harder to achieve.

  2. #2
    They are the same thing. The division winner with the best record in each league is the #1 seed.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  3. #3
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    They are the same thing. The division winner with the best record in each league is the #1 seed.
    What I was looking at was best record across both leagues, so you could be the number 1 seed in one league and not the other.

  4. #4
    Originally Posted by theywontpayontuesday View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    They are the same thing. The division winner with the best record in each league is the #1 seed.
    What I was looking at was best record across both leagues, so you could be the number 1 seed in one league and not the other.
    You lost me.

    But near as I can figure the only difference in #1 seeds when you get to the world series the team with the best record has home field advantage. No naturally, if you are the overall #1 seed, and you get that far, you are guaranteed home feild advantage.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  5. #5
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by theywontpayontuesday View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    They are the same thing. The division winner with the best record in each league is the #1 seed.
    What I was looking at was best record across both leagues, so you could be the number 1 seed in one league and not the other.
    You lost me.

    But near as I can figure the only difference in #1 seeds when you get to the world series the team with the best record has home field advantage. No naturally, if you are the overall #1 seed, and you get that far, you are guaranteed home feild advantage.
    Yeah I wasnt paying much attention myself when I started the thread and the betting option for best regular season record in baseball covers the National and American league. I should have known right away but it took me a minute.

  6. #6
    BTW, if you look up the game on Google, it shows a tie 6-6.

  7. #7
    Originally Posted by theywontpayontuesday View Post
    BTW, if you look up the game on Google, it shows a tie 6-6.
    Officially, the National League won 6-6. one of the dumber decisions sports has made in recent years.

    One of my former books, YouWager, has a statement on their website, that reads" after conferring with other sports books in the industry we have graded the all-start game as a win for the National League".

    THAT is just what you want, sportsbooks determining the rules and outcome after the event has concluded.
    Last edited by kewlJ; Yesterday at 06:53 PM.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  8. #8
    Yeah has anyone ever read the house rules. Complete bs all the time.

  9. #9
    Originally Posted by theywontpayontuesday View Post
    Yeah has anyone ever read the house rules. Complete bs all the time.
    Here is one that STILL irks me a little bit. Earlier this year I had the Yankees team total of over 5.5 for a game. Just the Yankees total. IIRC, they had a big first inning and went over in the first inning or maybe the second inning. At that point it was just a matter of getting to the finish line. Win or lose didn't matter.

    So the game was called, not postponed or suspended to be picked up the next day, but officially called after 6 innings, Yankees winning 10-0 or 10-1 or something.

    My wager was graded as a push because the game did not go 7 and a half innings. I mean were the Yankees going to have to give back some of those runs if the game had gone longer? They were already over the total. Give me a break.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  10. #10
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by theywontpayontuesday View Post
    Yeah has anyone ever read the house rules. Complete bs all the time.
    Here is one that STILL irks me a little bit. Earlier this year I had the Yankees team total of over 5.5 for a game. Just the Yankees total. IIRC, they had a big first inning and went over in the first inning or maybe the second inning. At that point it was just a matter of getting to the finish line. Win or lose didn't matter.

    So the game was called, not postponed or suspended to be picked up the next day, but officially called after 6 innings, Yankees winning 10-0 or 10-1 or something.

    My wager was graded as a push because the game did not go 7 and a half innings. I mean were the Yankees going to have to give back some of those runs if the game had gone longer? They were already over the total. Give me a break.
    Wow. I thought they called a game after 5 innings final, but not anymore. Just looked this up on reddit and now more than I ever am I now confused. Things changed somehow, idk. Can you share the box score? Which year? Were there any suddenly playoff considerarions?

  11. #11
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    AxelWolf already publicly and privately stated that he debunked all of UNKewlJ's fraudulent sports bets claims.

    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    What’s crazy about all this is that any normal person would realize that his ever changing story and desperate attempts to put out fires is just confirming that his story is false, and making him look even worse, but a sociopathic liar can’t help himself, and keeps lying just to cover up other lies.
    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.

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  12. #12
    Originally Posted by theywontpayontuesday View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by theywontpayontuesday View Post
    Yeah has anyone ever read the house rules. Complete bs all the time.
    Here is one that STILL irks me a little bit. Earlier this year I had the Yankees team total of over 5.5 for a game. Just the Yankees total. IIRC, they had a big first inning and went over in the first inning or maybe the second inning. At that point it was just a matter of getting to the finish line. Win or lose didn't matter.

    So the game was called, not postponed or suspended to be picked up the next day, but officially called after 6 innings, Yankees winning 10-0 or 10-1 or something.

    My wager was graded as a push because the game did not go 7 and a half innings. I mean were the Yankees going to have to give back some of those runs if the game had gone longer? They were already over the total. Give me a break.
    Wow. I thought they called a game after 5 innings final, but not anymore. Just looked this up on reddit and now more than I ever am I now confused. Things changed somehow, idk. Can you share the box score? Which year? Were there any suddenly playoff considerarions?
    If you are betting on either team to win and the game is called after 5 innings, it is final and paid accordingly. the rules are different for bets involving totals, whether a combined teams total (over 8.5) or one teams total (over 4.5). In wagers involving totals 7.5 innings must be played or it is a push, regardless that the total may have already been hit. Of course I learned this the hard way.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  13. #13
    Messed up so this year? What day? Can you share a link? I thought overs paid early when I bet once they hit or maybe delayed pay still early. 6 inning do over? That's supposed to be an official game. Was it not called official? Was it called official then not paid. Makes no sense the book wouldn't pay since over unders include extra innings which can obviously screw an under because one team has to score and ruin it at a tie game.

  14. #14
    Is it the same way everywhere? I thought someone games paid early in some sports at least. I know tennis screws you or saves you betting 2nd or 3rd sets. I dont el know what losing does but in tennis a match only went to the one player getting 6 games and the other withdrawing somehow, I very slowly was paid. Had he have been losing and the other guy had 6 sets idk what happens. Thought it was a live bet I made, but now I'm not so sure if prematch.

  15. #15
    I posted about it here when it happened. let me take a look.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  16. #16
    Ok my bad. I had it backwards. SF Giants were playing the Yankees. I had the SF team total of over 3.5. SF scored 5 runs in the first inning, so I was over in the first Inning (hate when that happens) So the game was called in the 6th inning with SF winning 9-1. Well over the 3.5 I needed to win my bet. And it was declared a push.

    here is the box score:

    https://www.espn.com/mlb/game/_/game...giants-yankees

    Here is when I posted about it. (professional sports betting thread, post 3586)

    https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...522#post193522

    I conplained for 2 solid days. communicated with supervisors and everything. Got nowhere.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  17. #17
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post

    I conplained for 2 solid days. communicated with supervisors and everything. Got nowhere.
    And THIS is one of the BIg issues I have with dealing with online off shore books. You have no place to take your complaint.

    When I play in a B & M casino here in Vegas, if something happens that I feel was wrong, If I get nowhere complaining to pit, I can ask to speak to a supervisor. I rarely do, (brings attention) but I can if it is a big enough issue. And if I am unhappy with the supervisors resolution, and really KNOW I am in the right, I can ask for gaming.

    When you are dealing with off-shore sportsbooks, you have no recourse. They are their own referee. THAT is one of the reasons I never played much at Indian casinos.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  18. #18
    The bet they stiffed you on was a bet other sports books would have paid with no interaction or not? I feel like an official game is an official game and that's it since the over won already and the under for you lost. I believe your story and little dick and also dick in dog will let you hear it. If little dick and dick in dog are quiet then story confirmed.

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