Much as I love the Royal, I love to see those Aces!Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Much as I love the Royal, I love to see those Aces!Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Thanks for the info. My only question on this would be do you start over whenever you reach the minimum win goal?Originally Posted by Rob.SingerSling, that idiot can only show hatred for my winning ability whenever he discusses anything with anyone who takes the time to understand what I teach. He can't help himself, but it's all he has. And Alan can't seem to grasp the concept that some people just may have larger gambling bankrolls than whatever amount he can stomach potentially parting with. In other words, it's all about him, all the time. Just imagine what he conversely thinks of you as he plays $2 & $5 constantly while you play 5c thru quarters.
Anyway, back to the important stuff. Last night I did something I rarely do anymore--I played machines in one casino for almost four straight hours. Of course I went in with a goal, and based on my current crop of incredible luck I wasn't expecting to be there long. But not this time.
I went in with a plan to play alternating sessions with minimum $200 win goals of five-level 25c thru $5 RTT/ARTT strategies--playing up to 6 full sessions if needed, and quitting whenever I attained at least a minimum $1000 profit OVERALL. ARTT, with its soft profit cash-out routine, is well-known by now to those who have at least half a brain. RTT, OTOH, has variable approaches, and this time I chose to play BP/TDBP with a 50/50, 50/100, 100/100, 100/200, & 100/300 spread--and with NO soft profit cashing out....you keep playing until the $200 minimum win goal is achieved. In these cases where 25c is the lowest denomination and $5 is the highest, ARTT requires a $2000 session bankroll, while RTT requires $2900/session.
Things did not go well until the end. I lost $2900 on the first RTT session; I lost $1925 on the next ARTT session; I lost another $2900 on the following RTT session; and I lost $1870 on the next ARTT session. But on the next RTT session, I was down $1410 when the wonderful Royal Flush lined up for me. Ain't it grand?! So for my four hour grinding effort, where I did hit 3 quads but nothing special and always late enough on that they never quite got me there, I profited $8995 overall. Not a bad haul again, bit it's not my bag to be sitting at machines that long a time any more. I guess that's the down side of being the best vp player to ever play the game.And the smartest reaction player too. I again left zero tips for anybody. Here's an assignment for Alan: Go back and add up the total of all my jackpots in this thread, then pretend it was YOU who hit them and calculate how much you would have SQUANDERED in tips for absolutely no reason at all to people who care nothing about you at all.
PS: Sorry about the crummy fuzzy picture this time. I always like them to be crystal clear in order to bug "eddie" as much as possible, but these fuzzies could be construed as my giving him and his fellow dufus spock the opportunity to claim I "doctored" the picture or that I'm "hiding" something. ENJOY....both the picture and the PAIN!!
Was it Rob?Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
I'm sorry Alan. Because of the way this thread runs I find it hard to believe anything that's posted here. Even when a person has proof. I wish everyone would stick to giving good info. If someone is lying so what leave it alone. Its beginning to sound like a bunch of kids on here. Maybe I'm just getting old. (80)
I for one believe Alan.
Always, except when that minimum win goal allows me to equal or surpass my pre-determined overall session win goal. Then I immediately leave. See my next post for more good advice.Originally Posted by slingshot
Well Alan, I don't know how long you played or how many hands you played or how many points you accumulated or what denominations you really played or how much you won or lost overall when you hit 3 sets of Aces, but I have no trouble believing you if you say you won or if you say you squandered the lot of it. Why? Because I know players, and I know how they just can't bear to get up and leave machines when they're ahead OR behind. But if you say you had two other quad Aces without pictures to prove it, why doubt it?
I, OTOH, had TERRIBLE luck this morning, only to have that one lucky hit come again. I got stuck playing 3 hours this time--my last for maybe a month. The difference is, I always go in with a plan where you don't, which is a very big reason why you have a difficult time coming to grips with the winning my strategies allow for.
I took $8700 exactly. I planned to play--and did play--up to three 5-level RTT sessions on 25c thru $5, which requires a bankroll of $2900/session. My goal was to leave upon attaining $1000 or more in profit overall. Each individual session I assigned a $200 minimum win goal, and after playing three, win (ahead anywhere from $1 up) or lose, I would leave.
Session #1 was a $2900 loser with no quads. Same with session #2. On RTT, that's 2300 credits w/o a quad, which is kind of unusual--and especially unusual for me during this winning streak. Session #3, as you see below, gave me that one single lucky hit that I look for in every visit I make. It wasn't very likely that the quad drought would continue....and to help you understand, now you may finally comprehend WHY I don't just go at the higher limit machines and WHY I work my way up to them. (Take a guess at how much I would have been behind losing about 3300-$5 credits before hitting the winner! Has it sunk in yet?) I was $2050 in the hole when I hit this, so my profit for the day was another cool +$10,150. Now compare that to your belief system: which would you rather have, +$10,150....or +$3500? AND IT IS LIKE THAT EVERY SINGLE TIME. The lower levels are there to either create their own winners by not risking very much, or to absorb the losses before the winner hits on the higher level. So just think if you actually went in with a strategy last night instead of simply letting casino ambience and your compulsion to play too much due to over-craving the action control what you did.
Among all this nonsense of posting W2G's etc. etc., you basically said why it isn't done here. You believe my hits, but you can't accept that I profit so much from them because what you don't believe is in my comparative limited time at the machines. That right there says what your & others' responses would be had you, I, and others posted tax slips--you would have no other choice but to believe the wins were squandered away or mostly squandered away, because that's what you and most others or maybe all others, but me, do. I believe you asked me to do those videos and do all kinds of explaining because you first and foremost were looking at other ways to play in order to be a yearly winner. But when I try to help you, you only want to fight it because you can't conceive of it being true based on your many, many bad experiences. I've said many times that video poker is a very unforgiving game. So LEARN from what I'm saying, teaching, an explaining. I ran into the exact same skepticism week after week as readers read about my constant winning each week in GT, so your comments about "fantasies" and "putting on pants" is nothing new. You can either learn to play smart, or keep playing stupid. Like the bozos here. But for now, everyone please do enjoy the picture....and the PAIN!!
Rob, I love you. I truly do. But I have sat here day after day and closed my eyes and plumbed my soul -- and the truth is that when I look at your posted jackpots, I feel absolutely no pain. Now maybe that's just me; maybe others feel pain. I have tried to feel it, but it's just not there. What is it I'm supposed to feel, exactly? Pain should be tangible, easily recognized, something with which one is familiar. But it's just not there for me. Am I doing something wrong that I feel no pain when you post a jackpot?
A lot of my posts are satiric and all that, but I am serious here. Why do you think I should be feeling pain, and why am I not feeling pain?
Huh? A doubter? Someone actually questioning the validity of my post? Don't worry Count, unlike Rob I won't call you jealous, a clown, a bozo, a moron, an idiot, stupid, a pauper or anything else. Instead, like Rob I want to teach you my strategies and explain them clearly and concisely. So, ask yourself this question:Originally Posted by Count Room
If I had 7 blue pens and Rob had 5 red apples, how many pancakes could you spread across the top of his RV? The answer is purple, because aliens don't wear hats.
Last edited by a2a3dseddie; 02-23-2014 at 03:19 PM.
Originally Posted by Rob.SingerWell Alan, I don't know how long you played or how many hands you played or how many points you accumulated or what denominations you really played or how much you won or lost overall when you hit 3 sets of Aces, but I have no trouble believing you if you say you won or if you say you squandered the lot of it. Why? Because I know players, and I know how they just can't bear to get up and leave machines when they're ahead OR behind. But if you say you had two other quad Aces without pictures to prove it, why doubt it?
I, OTOH, had TERRIBLE luck this morning, only to have that one lucky hit come again. I got stuck playing 3 hours this time--my last for maybe a month. The difference is, I always go in with a plan where you don't, which is a very big reason why you have a difficult time coming to grips with the winning my strategies allow for.
I took $8700 exactly. I planned to play--and did play--up to three 5-level RTT sessions on 25c thru $5, which requires a bankroll of $2900/session. My goal was to leave upon attaining $1000 or more in profit overall. Each individual session I assigned a $200 minimum win goal, and after playing three, win (ahead anywhere from $1 up) or lose, I would leave.
Session #1 was a $2900 loser with no quads. Same with session #2. On RTT, that's 2300 credits w/o a quad, which is kind of unusual--and especially unusual for me during this winning streak. Session #3, as you see below, gave me that one single lucky hit that I look for in every visit I make. It wasn't very likely that the quad drought would continue....and to help you understand, now you may finally comprehend WHY I don't just go at the higher limit machines and WHY I work my way up to them. (Take a guess at how much I would have been behind losing about 3300-$5 credits before hitting the winner! Has it sunk in yet?) I was $2050 in the hole when I hit this, so my profit for the day was another cool +$10,150. Now compare that to your belief system: which would you rather have, +$10,150....or +$3500? AND IT IS LIKE THAT EVERY SINGLE TIME. The lower levels are there to either create their own winners by not risking very much, or to absorb the losses before the winner hits on the higher level. So just think if you actually went in with a strategy last night instead of simply letting casino ambience and your compulsion to play too much due to over-craving the action control what you did.
Among all this nonsense of posting W2G's etc. etc., you basically said why it isn't done here. You believe my hits, but you can't accept that I profit so much from them because what you don't believe is in my comparative limited time at the machines. That right there says what your & others' responses would be had you, I, and others posted tax slips--you would have no other choice but to believe the wins were squandered away or mostly squandered away, because that's what you and most others or maybe all others, but me, do. I believe you asked me to do those videos and do all kinds of explaining because you first and foremost were looking at other ways to play in order to be a yearly winner. But when I try to help you, you only want to fight it because you can't conceive of it being true based on your many, many bad experiences. I've said many times that video poker is a very unforgiving game. So LEARN from what I'm saying, teaching, an explaining. I ran into the exact same skepticism week after week as readers read about my constant winning each week in GT, so your comments about "fantasies" and "putting on pants" is nothing new. You can either learn to play smart, or keep playing stupid. Like the bozos here. But for now, everyone please do enjoy the picture....and the PAIN!!
Another Rob Singer post, another slew of insults, another bankroll saving jackpot, another attempt at diverting attention away from him providing any sort of proof. Nothing to see here folks.
Rob,
I will admit to playing a lot of video poker but I guess I'm not up on all the nomenclature you use here. What do the acronyms you use mean and what is a "session?"
I do feel a little pain ... all from the gut splitting laughter after another one of Rob's miraculous saves. He should have been a goalie at the Olympics. Even after getting deeked he would make a perfectly timed dive to block the puck and keep his perfect record intact. Oooooh wait, I'm starting to feel that pain again. Bwah haha haha hahaOriginally Posted by redietz
RTT means Romp Thru Town. When I developed it in the early 2000's I regularly went from casino to casino for multiple hours, hitting each one up for $$ before moving onto the next. Over time however, I fine-tuned it into what you see in this thread-- and very successfully so.Originally Posted by Nash
A session refers to playing a single strategy until a win goal is attained-- or the session bankroll is lost. What you're probably most familiar with is sitting down at any machine and playing on until you lose it all, a jackpot is hit, or the Mrs. grabs you to go to dinner or a show (IF she is still alive and has all her body parts, that is
Rob, about my plan last night: Forum member "ke6cdh" (real name John Crossan) who lives near me, has been hooking up at Rincon with me frequently for dinner, and yesterday he drove down with me for dinner and a little play. We had a great dinner (comped, Rob) and then we played a little. First we went to card craps which is a low limit game and John had promo chips and I made a small buy in. We caught some winners and walked away with a small profit. Then to video poker.
John was having trouble at first converting trips into quads but then his luck changed. He was playing Ace$ Bonus and caught quad aces (not in the correct order, however) and he got a straight flush, and then he got some more quads. He finished with a profit.
I had a net loss on the evening of $500 (playing $1 Bonus only) and it was the two quad aces which kept my loss at $500. I put $200 in the Royal Aces Bonus machine #3116 and got the $4,000 win.
I suggested to John that we try the $5 card craps game one more time for a $100 buy in each, and we each had a small loss but twice we were close to getting a Fire Bet payoff after three different points were hit. We stayed there till 6am and then made the drive home. It's a beautiful time of the morning to drive through the orange orchards, and the freeway drive was easy and relaxing... and I was so engrossed in our conversation about casino play and strategies that I missed the exit and had to drive back to LA "the longer way."
My "goal" last night was to have a nice evening including dinner and some play. My profit so far this year is huge relative to how I usually do.
I am not the regimented "machine like player" you are, meaning, I am not pre-set like a pressure cooker. I also don't have the problems you have to admit losses which means I don't have to bend the truth about how much I play or how much I lose when I lose.
I don't believe you that you hit these big hands in a limited amount of time. Sure, I hit quad aces three times last night (and early this morning) but that was over six hours of video poker play. My son once hit five $1 royals -- but that was over a 24-hour period so each took several hours. Earlier this year (and I didn't post this) I had a night playing $5 aces and faces when I hit quad aces FIVE times -- but I lost on the session so there was no "big win" to talk about.
Yes, Rob, I believe you hit these winners. Hitting hands like these are not like walking on water. Hitting quads with kickers doesn't make you some super video poker player... because even ordinary players hit these hands. There is nothing magical here, and your own strategy has nothing to do with hitting winners.
What I find absolutely unbelievable are your claims that these big wins come with only limited play. Hitting them after three hours? Heck there is nothing unusual about that. That's normal. So hitting these big winners after three hours just means you're hitting big winners in a reasonable time frame.
Is it possible that you hit some big winners within a half hour? Sure it is. But so what? People get lucky. The reason I got hooked on Aces and Faces is that the first time I played the game I hit quad aces within four hands. Lucky things happen. But I knew I was just lucky.
I know of players at Rincon who hit $5 progressive for $30,000 and more who only had $300 in the machine.
I think that going forward the more you tell us that your big wins come after three hours of play the more "believable" your "quick wins" will become -- because they will be the exception. Yes, a few big wins within a half hour become normal when a player like you plays almost on a daily basis and plays for 3 hours or more in a day.
You are a daily player Rob. Frankly, for a guy who called others "addicted" for their frequent play, I am surprised you aren't calling yourself an addict. And Rob I think that slowly the truth is coming out that except for those days when you do hit a big winner in the first half hour, most of your other "sessions" are three hours or longer.
In summary, I don't think you are a super video poker player after all. I think you have your share of big winners just like normal players have their share of big winners. Maybe your special plays help you get those big winners -- but maybe they don't, after all.
And for the most part, the discussion on this thread has been a lot of meaningless hot air. Okay, you play a lot and you get your share of big winners. So what? Everyone else who plays a lot gets their share of big winners too.
There is no headline news here. Rob... you're just like the rest of us video poker players. Except that the rest of us aren't playing $10 and $25 video poker.
Are you threatening me?Originally Posted by redietz
You have been posting several comments critical of me and they have not gone unnoticed. I allow Rob to post here for the same reason I allow you to post here: it is not proper for me to censor. However, I will not allow posts that would promote or allege criminal activity or would be libelous. That is not directed at you individually, but is for all to understand.
Personally, I think you have two purposes here, redietz:
First, it was to criticize and put down Bob Dancer. Now it is to criticize and put down Rob Singer who, ironically, you showed support for in the past. Of course, you have always wanted to be recognized yourself as some sort of gambling authority yet you never presented any evidence that you are.
You are welcome to continue posting, and your comments are being noted.
Alan, I respect your opinion, whether it's right or wrong. When it comes to my very unusual style of play that's grounded in discipline, structure & adequate bankroll, and my ability to win consistent extraordinary amounts because of it, I've obviously run into "wrong" far more often. Frequently, as you've seen here and which regularly occurred for the 8 years I wrote about my gaming experiences at GT, it comes in the form of deeply seated hate & jealousy--something very understandable and common among those who can neither play at higher limits as well as lose when they do play. So it's nothing new.
What I'm seeing from you is a little different, plus there's the added challenge that has you winning lately and last year for a change. It appears to be a mix of about a third of the above, with two thirds being your vast experience playing the game telling you it's just not possible to consistently win in the manner I do. And I understand that, because what's happening here is becoming very similar to what I experienced with Frank. He had the opportunity to and was on the cusp of comprehending exactly how I did what I did. Then he abruptly disappeared. In your case, it's a much harder hill to climb. You're fighting my success because, while you do accept I'm hitting these winners, you just are't able to believe the relatively small amount of time it takes me to hit a lot of them. And that's a direct result of your being too "lazy" to understand any of my play strategies--most possibly because of the impending irritation factor that slowing down your frenzied play would cause should you ever try to do it. And that's a shame, because I KNOW I can transform your results into steady profitting...and with much more enjoyment playing.
Am I a "super player"? Opinions vary, but you can bet your bottom dollar those who are envious and say stupid things are actually struggling with that. You keep telling yourself that winners like mine just can't be hit so often within the first 30 or 40 minutes. But that's nothing more than not understanding my strategy and not wanting to understand my strategy. Most of the "quick big hits" are a result of ARTT, because that strategy gets you to the top denomination faster, and as an experienced player I'm sure you've seen your share of four 3's, Aces, etc. in your first 45 minutes or so. In fact, I've played ARTT a lot because I'm not a fan of having to sit at machines or being inside casinos for hours on end any more. You say you work, you have a family (or families) and I think you have to keep an eye on your health. I don't know how you do it. I'm retired, my family time is usually reserved for certain holidays, and my wife gave me some disturbing looks recently when I went to casinos instead of doing things and spending more time with her like I've been doing since she retired. That's why I won't be playing for a while unless we take another Harrahs free flight offer somewhere TOGETHER, which I don't think we will.
The truth is there Alan, with every single jackpot picture I've posted. You always get the report with them, and while they may not always identify the amount of time I played before reaching my win goal and leaving, they usually tell you how I did it and with what strategy. If you understood the strategies you'd not have nearly as much trouble with all this.
The trouble with redietz? It's just his way of reacting to my winning and to your allowing me to post my jackpots, that's all. He flails at different aspects of what I do because of it. These people all react differently across the Internet but it all has the same basis and theme. Comes with the territory.
Last edited by Rob.Singer; 02-24-2014 at 04:58 AM.
Alan, When do you sleep man?
Rob... the only thing responsible for your "ability to win consistent extraordinary amounts" is that you are playing $10 and $25 video poker. Other players get the same hands but playing 25-cent and 50-cent video poker. I see this all the time at Rincon in the video poker section. You are not hitting these quads with kickers any more frequently than lower level players do. Sorry. But that's reality.
The only way for you to prove to us that you do hit these "winners" more frequently is if you showed us some sort of casino statement that tracked your actual play: whether it be a coin-in/coin-out statement, or a tier score statement, or something where we could figure the percentage of your "big hits" to the number of hands played. And I know you won't come up with that data for whatever reason.
You say your ARTT method gets you to the higher denominations more quickly? Well I've said this before and I will say it again: with your bankroll you should be starting at the higher denominations... period.
Rob, here is what I VALUE about your systems and methodology:
1. Discipline following win goals and loss limits. Absolutely essential and because of that my video poker balance sheet has changed remarkably. I no longer chase royals meaning I no longer keep playing till I hit a royal or bust out. I now set and accept certain win goals.
2. Certain special plays. Yes, I see some value in certain special plays involving aces. However, I reserve judgment about when I might use a special play and when I might use conventional strategy (since I use conventional strategy most if not all of the time).
3. Changing denominations. I think it is important to change denominations -- but perhaps not the way you intended. But I think you'll agree with me that moving to a lower denomination when things are not going well makes sense. And moving to a lower denomination to preserve profits also makes sense.
4. Making "bonus poker" your primary workhorse for play since it has less volatility and will keep you in the game longer.
Well,my lone session today wasn't so great(only had a small amount of time).I took $100 on 5/10/25 cent artt, lost the first $25 on bp, and was down to $15 on ddbp when 4 3's hit for a $15 profit. I kinda wish I'd had time for another, but had to go.
Last edited by slingshot; 02-24-2014 at 09:52 PM.
Rob Singer seems to be a time traveler.
Remember this:
http://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/showth...ll=1#post18075
Rob sent this to Alan in December, 2013.
However, the filename of that image is 2013072795163231, which translates into July 27, 2013 (see bolded part).
Remember Rob's big win that he posted in early February?
That filename was 20140115_160618. This must have been a different camera, as it has a slightly different naming convention. However, that translates to January 15, 2014 at 4:06pm (the 160618 means 16:06:18 in military time).
He can't claim he hit that on the 15th but didn't mention it until the 1st, because he made a post showing a large amount of play around January 20th so he would have written about it at least by then.
Finally, the one he posted last night had the filename of 20140221_175455, representing February 21, 2014 at 5:54pm. This is fairly close (only off by a day), but since it's clearly the same camera, he can't say that the January 15th photo was taken in February with a camera that was 2 weeks behind.
So it's starting to look like Rob collected pictures of wins over time (dating back to July), and is now posting them in rapid-fire succession, making it appear he is hitting jackpots all over the place.
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