The truth about this degenerate industry

[redietz]

But I didn’t think Vegas worked in the way that you win millions of dollars year after year while the casino comps you up the ass & the pit bosses high five you while you’re also spreading blackjack from $100 to $50,000?

And you think you are up $1 Million dollars at the end of the trip only to later realize you were “about even”

And Video Poker machines telegraph hot & cold cycles to you.

I didn’t even think they used telegraphs anymore.

Not sure that's any more absurd than thousands of poker players descending on a city where they get to pay for housing, transportation, mandatory tips, and overpriced food, all while playing a game where their winnings will be taxed at the going rate. I think the word "masochist" comes to mind.

I can vouch for their having been a merit badge for learning Morse Code before the Boy Scouts got savaged by Woke. So telegraphs are out there, somewhere.

[MDawg]

I see no sense in spending much time on this forum. It really is a waste of life. I will continue to pop in once a day or so

Like I said, it must be mental illness. You're a habitual liar incapable of facts. You just create whatever works in your mind at the moment. Really, the best thing for you to do is exit stage left. Your credibility is completely shot and unrecoverable....RIP

[jdaewoo]

Why isn't this retard out winning 80% of his tie bets?

[accountinquestion]

But I didn’t think Vegas worked in the way that you win millions of dollars year after year while the casino comps you up the ass & the pit bosses high five you while you’re also spreading blackjack from $100 to $50,000?

And you think you are up $1 Million dollars at the end of the trip only to later realize you were “about even”

And Video Poker machines telegraph hot & cold cycles to you.

I didn’t even think they used telegraphs anymore.

Not sure that's any more absurd than thousands of poker players descending on a city where they get to pay for housing, transportation, mandatory tips, and overpriced food, all while playing a game where their winnings will be taxed at the going rate. I think the word "masochist" comes to mind.

I can vouch for their having been a merit badge for learning Morse Code before the Boy Scouts got savaged by Woke. So telegraphs are out there, somewhere.

The WSOP though is a whole culture/get together of people who have known each other for potentially decades. It may or may not make sense financially for people. If you play cash games then it isn't necessarily taxed. I've always heard the games are good or the games are bad. haha. I can't remember. The games are more likely to be better back home.

[ZenKinG]

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[mickeycrimm]

But I didn’t think Vegas worked in the way that you win millions of dollars year after year while the casino comps you up the ass & the pit bosses high five you while you’re also spreading blackjack from $100 to $50,000?

And you think you are up $1 Million dollars at the end of the trip only to later realize you were “about even”

And Video Poker machines telegraph hot & cold cycles to you.

I didn’t even think they used telegraphs anymore.

The games are a lot better in Texas than anything you will find in Vegas.


Not sure that's any more absurd than thousands of poker players descending on a city where they get to pay for housing, transportation, mandatory tips, and overpriced food, all while playing a game where their winnings will be taxed at the going rate. I think the word "masochist" comes to mind.

I can vouch for their having been a merit badge for learning Morse Code before the Boy Scouts got savaged by Woke. So telegraphs are out there, somewhere.

The WSOP though is a whole culture/get together of people who have known each other for potentially decades. It may or may not make sense financially for people. If you play cash games then it isn't necessarily taxed. I've always heard the games are good or the games are bad. haha. I can't remember. The games are more likely to be better back home.

The games are a lot better in texas than anything you will find in vegas.

[accountinquestion]

The games are a lot better in Texas than anything you will find in Vegas.


Not sure that's any more absurd than thousands of poker players descending on a city where they get to pay for housing, transportation, mandatory tips, and overpriced food, all while playing a game where their winnings will be taxed at the going rate. I think the word "masochist" comes to mind.

I can vouch for their having been a merit badge for learning Morse Code before the Boy Scouts got savaged by Woke. So telegraphs are out there, somewhere.

The WSOP though is a whole culture/get together of people who have known each other for potentially decades. It may or may not make sense financially for people. If you play cash games then it isn't necessarily taxed. I've always heard the games are good or the games are bad. haha. I can't remember. The games are more likely to be better back home.

The games are a lot better in texas than anything you will find in vegas.

I was more referencing the "cash games are good at WSOP" thought. I don't know if that is even a belief anymore but I seem to recall it being a thing years ago. Whenever I've played cash I didn't feel that was the case. Game were about standard for LV. Lots of them but then the lines are so fucking long you waste so much time dealing with the waits.

Now that there are so many training sites and shit - it is hard to not get better at poker. So anyone who is big enough fan of the game to travel to the WSOP is going to have some learning under their belt most likely. It doesn't take much to make a horrible into a barely losing player.

[mickeycrimm]

The WSOP though is a whole culture/get together of people who have known each other for potentially decades. It may or may not make sense financially for people. If you play cash games then it isn't necessarily taxed. I've always heard the games are good or the games are bad. haha. I can't remember. The games are more likely to be better back home.

The games are a lot better in texas than anything you will find in vegas.

I was more referencing the "cash games are good at WSOP" thought. I don't know if that is even a belief anymore but I seem to recall it being a thing years ago. Whenever I've played cash I didn't feel that was the case. Game were about standard for LV. Lots of them but then the lines are so fucking long you waste so much time dealing with the waits.

Now that there are so many training sites and shit - it is hard to not get better at poker. So anyone who is big enough fan of the game to travel to the WSOP is going to have some learning under their belt most likely. It doesn't take much to make a horrible into a barely losing player.

Before 2003 the cash games at the WSOP were good the first week. Down to the rocks after that. It was all limit poker in those days.

[ZenKinG]

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[ZenKinG]

bump. This industry is the most toxic shit ever. Literally a bunch of wannabes and frauds

[accountinquestion]

bump. This industry is the most toxic shit ever. Literally a bunch of wannabes and frauds

"industry"

Well buddy if you have found a whole industry based on APing then I'm sure you're not wrong.

[DGenBen]

bump. This industry is the most toxic shit ever. Literally a bunch of wannabes and frauds

It can be toxic, or the opposite of toxic.

It’s all about what you bring to it and your attitude to approaching it, just like anything else in life.

[ZenKinG]

Be careful with these discords as well. A bunch of skimming wannabe frauds that claim they have all this money but are constantly chopping plays on the highly volatile shit so that way they can get away with it and have plausible deniability, while also profiting big on big luckbox wins. Guarantee you if you ever asked them to record the play and have video evidence of each play, they'll never chop with you and/or you'll never get it. They claim they're your friends but will never actually share anything that's remotely decent, in which I've done that for them time and time again on games where I was making the most money on, where to get free play, or even things outside of gambling such as the market. They then claim they 'helped' you. They'll claim they invited you on plays. What the fuck do you think would happen on these plays? Short term they'll bring you on slam dunk plays and then sweep the rug under you or it'll just be a flat out con job from the start. Imagine thinking you can fuck me lmao. Good luck robbing me also when most of my money is now in the bank or in my investments as well as cameras near my safe with the small amount of cash I keep on hand now for slots.

These guys all suck each other's dicks and take the opposite side against me every single time regardless of them knowing the fine details. The benefit of the doubt is always given to everyone else. They're all fake fucks. They are so manipulative that theyll fuck you and then lend that person money after that to keep their trust. They all try to one up you time and time again. They're either frauds and/or terrible people. Theyll also ask you IF they ever ran out of money, would you spot them 20k or whatever amount and just bring it to them. What the fuck do you think would happen if i did that? Skimming 101. Why the hell would someone ever go into a play with not way more money than they need? It's like ok, sure, a .01% thing can happen where you get smoked, but that's not what they're bringing on these plays.

None of these guys can be trusted. It's literally a wannabe skimming scamming discord as well as forums. None of them or you guys couldve made it alone like I did, but am I surprised? Who the fuck on these forums and discords made it alone? WHO? Not to mention, who has been in vegas this long and never been scammed? This industry is ripe with a bunch of scamming wannabe fraud niggers. How many people have come to vegas and failed and either left or got a job? I definitely had some moments where I was going to quit, and had some things line up at the right time, but at the end of the day, I'm sure others had those opportunities if they held on long enough like I did. If it was gods work, thank you, but if not, it is what it is, I'm still here standing without a job for 8 years since moving here and close to 5x'ing my initial net worth ALL with one identity. If you know you know.

There will be a nice place in hell for all of you.

[jdaewoo]

Half the people on this forum have made it on their own and are more successful than you'll ever be.

The other half are retards.

[accountinquestion]

Be careful with these discords as well. A bunch of skimming wannabe frauds that claim they have all this money but are constantly chopping plays on the highly volatile shit so that way they can get away with it and have plausible deniability, while also profiting big on big luckbox wins. Guarantee you if you ever asked them to record the play and have video evidence of each play, they'll never chop with you and/or you'll never get it. They claim they're your friends but will never actually share anything that's remotely decent, in which I've done that for them time and time again on games where I was making the most money on, where to get free play, or even things outside of gambling such as the market. They then claim they 'helped' you. They're all fake fucks. They are so manipulative that theyll fuck you and then lend that person money after that to keep their trust. They all try to one up you time and time again. They're either frauds and/or terrible people. Theyll also ask you IF they ever ran out of money, would you spot them 20k or whatever amount and just bring it to them. What the fuck do you think would happen if i did that? Why the hell would someone ever go into a play with not way more money than they need? It's like sure a .0001% thing can happen, but that's not what they're bringing on these plays. None of these guys can be trusted. It's literally a wannabe skimming scamming discord as well as forums. None of them or you guys couldve made it alone like I did, but am I surprised? Who the fuck on these forums and discords made it alone? WHO? Not to mention, who has been in vegas this long and never been scammed? This industry is ripe with a bunch of scamming wannabe fraud niggers.

There will be a nice place in hell for all of you.

You talk about how great you are and compare it to this forum but I'd be very surprised if you could name 1 person on here that you worked with.

You hang out with losers so look in the mirror for an explanation of your situation.

[ZenKinG]

Be careful with these discords as well. A bunch of skimming wannabe frauds that claim they have all this money but are constantly chopping plays on the highly volatile shit so that way they can get away with it and have plausible deniability, while also profiting big on big luckbox wins. Guarantee you if you ever asked them to record the play and have video evidence of each play, they'll never chop with you and/or you'll never get it. They claim they're your friends but will never actually share anything that's remotely decent, in which I've done that for them time and time again on games where I was making the most money on, where to get free play, or even things outside of gambling such as the market. They then claim they 'helped' you. They're all fake fucks. They are so manipulative that theyll fuck you and then lend that person money after that to keep their trust. They all try to one up you time and time again. They're either frauds and/or terrible people. Theyll also ask you IF they ever ran out of money, would you spot them 20k or whatever amount and just bring it to them. What the fuck do you think would happen if i did that? Why the hell would someone ever go into a play with not way more money than they need? It's like sure a .0001% thing can happen, but that's not what they're bringing on these plays. None of these guys can be trusted. It's literally a wannabe skimming scamming discord as well as forums. None of them or you guys couldve made it alone like I did, but am I surprised? Who the fuck on these forums and discords made it alone? WHO? Not to mention, who has been in vegas this long and never been scammed? This industry is ripe with a bunch of scamming wannabe fraud niggers.

There will be a nice place in hell for all of you.

You talk about how great you are and compare it to this forum but I'd be very surprised if you could name 1 person on here that you worked with.

You hang out with losers so look in the mirror for an explanation of your situation.

Imagine needing to work with someone lmao. Fraud 101. Listen, if you or whoever else wants to work with someone good for you, but the conversation on who is better ends right there. The ones that are truly great dont need teammates.

[ZenKinG]

Half the people on this forum have made it on their own and are more successful than you'll ever be.

The other half are retards.

Youre the other half?

[accountinquestion]

Be careful with these discords as well. A bunch of skimming wannabe frauds that claim they have all this money but are constantly chopping plays on the highly volatile shit so that way they can get away with it and have plausible deniability, while also profiting big on big luckbox wins. Guarantee you if you ever asked them to record the play and have video evidence of each play, they'll never chop with you and/or you'll never get it. They claim they're your friends but will never actually share anything that's remotely decent, in which I've done that for them time and time again on games where I was making the most money on, where to get free play, or even things outside of gambling such as the market. They then claim they 'helped' you. They're all fake fucks. They are so manipulative that theyll fuck you and then lend that person money after that to keep their trust. They all try to one up you time and time again. They're either frauds and/or terrible people. Theyll also ask you IF they ever ran out of money, would you spot them 20k or whatever amount and just bring it to them. What the fuck do you think would happen if i did that? Why the hell would someone ever go into a play with not way more money than they need? It's like sure a .0001% thing can happen, but that's not what they're bringing on these plays. None of these guys can be trusted. It's literally a wannabe skimming scamming discord as well as forums. None of them or you guys couldve made it alone like I did, but am I surprised? Who the fuck on these forums and discords made it alone? WHO? Not to mention, who has been in vegas this long and never been scammed? This industry is ripe with a bunch of scamming wannabe fraud niggers.

There will be a nice place in hell for all of you.

You talk about how great you are and compare it to this forum but I'd be very surprised if you could name 1 person on here that you worked with.

You hang out with losers so look in the mirror for an explanation of your situation.

Imagine needing to work with someone lmao. Fraud 101. Listen, if you or whoever else wants to work with someone good for you, but the conversation on who is better ends right there. The ones that are truly great dont need teammates.

You insulted this whole (albeit small) forum and the fact is you don't know anyone and I'd be surprised if you worked with anyone. Maybe Axel ... Someone on here has at least met you.

Not sure what you are talking about. I've seen friends spinning off big plays $25-$50 a spin and needing more cash on hand because whatever they were carrying didn't work. Everyone knows about the various ways team play can be utilized with blackjack etc. There are lots of times it is useful to work with someone. Doesn't mean you have to either.

Or the big slot APs want spotters and people who lock up machines.

But yea, you and Kewl knock yourselves out, brosephus.

You're so fucking clueless but a great poster.

[kewlJ]

. Everyone knows about the various ways team play can be utilized with blackjack etc. There are lots of times it is useful to work with someone. Doesn't mean you have to either.

But yea, you and Kewl knock yourselves out, brosephus.

"Everyone knows about the various ways team play can be utilized with blackjack" hun? I don't think YOU know shit about blackjack advantage play including team play. Team play in blackjack isn't even really a thing anymore. Not the way it was portrayed in the movies and book. Casinos are just waiting for teams to come along trying that "call-in" shit. Once or twice a month, a team shows up here in Vegas trying that shit and they last minutes....not even hours.

Any advantage blackjack players that remain, are solo player. or maybe a small "partnership" that doesn't play together. Playing different tables/casinos, just to smooth out variance, but that old blackjack team play you are familiar with is 1990's.

People like you, acctinQ crow about members of this forum that don't team up with people or meet people. Other people on these forums or discord, will and do sabotage other players, whether so called fellow AP or just trolls like Mdawg, who fed info about me to a casino. I think Zenking, a guy with his roots in solo blackjack play, is smart for not getting to close to some on these forums and platforms.

Sure there is some successful team play with all the machine stuff now....IF you are dealing with people you know and trust. But these forums are also full of trolls, haters and even just some that work or are associated with the other side. Don't make it sound like he (zenking) is the idiot for being cautious. And don't talk about blackjack advantage play like you have any clue about it.