The Adventures of MDawg (in progress)

[MDawg]

I wear it when I "dress up" a bit, and when I go to the casino: a cool accessory.

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I have to wonder what the future will hold for automatic watches given how most young-un's these days don't wear a watch, they just look at their phone.

That’s cool. And really the point - that we men don’t wear jewelry other than a watch so wearing one is the equivalent of dressing up, haberdashery and all.

Well - how young? I mean Zuckerberg wears a close to million dollar Greubel Forsey. But I could get any watch he wears for a lot less than the full retail he pays, same way you did.

[accountinquestion]

There is too much ADD going on at your end to continue this conversation meaningfully.

Just for example:

and yet, I posted a link to a FP Journe counterfeit watch (watch, not wall clock) for sale.


But I wish you the best in your time piece endeavors.

Like I said I'm on a phone and this awful interface has issues.

On the same timestamp I was rereading. When I'm on my
Phone the responses are just way different for various reasons.

You found one fake. I didn't go deep down the rabbit hole to find one but any time I visited a seller of fakes I look and had yet to find one.

Contrast that to Rolex. Like I said Rolexes are for people who want to fake something. Or "represent" their success. The vast majority of time these men are far from self made. I just don't give a fuck about the status of it. I have friends through gambling and those who aren't. Those who aren't are typically engineer types. They're not watch people. Now in my gambling world there is a far wider range of people and those more likely to wear a Rolex, fake or not.

The only people that will ever notice you actually have a Rolex on are other men, or hookers who want to shove it up their pussy.


If that's the people you're trying to attract, then you should get a fake Rolex, because there's no way 99.9% of people can tell when you have a fake Rolex versus a real one when it's sitting on your wrist.

As far as an investment goes, well we have seen what happened with the decline of Rolex prices. Sure, there are some that supposedly hold their value, but then good luck trying to sell it at it's suposed value.

I tend to agree. If the woman knows about rolexes it is a bad sign unless she sells them.

Watches are definitely not investments. And given I have not been given anything in life and don't work THAT hard - I tend to like to hold on my money since I worked for it. I do think that Rolexes will hold value better than a lot of watches but models also go in and out of fashion. Just like art or anything else.

I agree about the fake Rolex and if you get a good copy that .1% that could tell won't even be able to tell without taking the back off.

I started getting into watches watching the silly semi-staged haggling on 47th by all the Jews lol. The videos were fun but then my interests started to evolve.

Rolexes shot way up during quarantine/covid times. A variety of factors but they're back to basically where they were prior. If you had sold your Rolexes during that period you would have done quite well for yourself. Daytonas and I can't remember the other one but there are a couple of models of Rolex that have more value than retail but tastes swing and change. It is hard to flip successfully and pay sales tax. Sales tax around here is about the same as the margin at wholesale level.

If is easy enough to sell watches or even figure out their value until you get to the very high-end and prices are either done by a handful of dealers or auction houses. chrono24 is an app that has the history of prices and such. Rolexes are very liquid. It is actually fairly easy to sell them for their value because of the gray market. The other brands aren't like this but there are always some guy who wants to trade around his watches/upgrade and such.

There are actually some gambling themed watches .. Perhaps I'll make a post on them. The mechanical complications can be a bit lol but it is all for people with literally too much money. For me watches are easy to collect and take up far less space than a car. Maintenance is far less too. I will have enough stuff to service and do minor repairs on watches outside of fabricating anything. A fun hobby.. better than VCT

[AxelWolf]

Like I said I'm on a phone and this awful interface has issues.

On the same timestamp I was rereading. When I'm on my
Phone the responses are just way different for various reasons.

You found one fake. I didn't go deep down the rabbit hole to find one but any time I visited a seller of fakes I look and had yet to find one.

Contrast that to Rolex. Like I said Rolexes are for people who want to fake something. Or "represent" their success. The vast majority of time these men are far from self made. I just don't give a fuck about the status of it. I have friends through gambling and those who aren't. Those who aren't are typically engineer types. They're not watch people. Now in my gambling world there is a far wider range of people and those more likely to wear a Rolex, fake or not.

The only people that will ever notice you actually have a Rolex on are other men, or hookers who want to shove it up their pussy.


If that's the people you're trying to attract, then you should get a fake Rolex, because there's no way 99.9% of people can tell when you have a fake Rolex versus a real one when it's sitting on your wrist.

As far as an investment goes, well we have seen what happened with the decline of Rolex prices. Sure, there are some that supposedly hold their value, but then good luck trying to sell it at it's suposed value.

I tend to agree. If the woman knows about rolexes it is a bad sign unless she sells them.

Watches are definitely not investments. And given I have not been given anything in life and don't work THAT hard - I tend to like to hold on my money since I worked for it. I do think that Rolexes will hold value better than a lot of watches but models also go in and out of fashion. Just like art or anything else.

I agree about the fake Rolex and if you get a good copy that .1% that could tell won't even be able to tell without taking the back off.

I started getting into watches watching the silly semi-staged haggling on 47th by all the Jews lol. The videos were fun but then my interests started to evolve.

Rolexes shot way up during quarantine/covid times. A variety of factors but they're back to basically where they were prior. If you had sold your Rolexes during that period you would have done quite well for yourself. Daytonas and I can't remember the other one but there are a couple of models of Rolex that have more value than retail but tastes swing and change. It is hard to flip successfully and pay sales tax. Sales tax around here is about the same as the margin at wholesale level.

If is easy enough to sell watches or even figure out their value until you get to the very high-end and prices are either done by a handful of dealers or auction houses. chrono24 is an app that has the history of prices and such. Rolexes are very liquid. It is actually fairly easy to sell them for their value because of the gray market. The other brands aren't like this but there are always some guy who wants to trade around his watches/upgrade and such.

There are actually some gambling themed watches .. Perhaps I'll make a post on them. The mechanical complications can be a bit lol but it is all for people with literally too much money. For me watches are easy to collect and take up far less space than a car. Maintenance is far less too. I will have enough stuff to service and do minor repairs on watches outside of fabricating anything. A fun hobby.. better than VCT

Great post. Someone with some fucking logic.

[accountinquestion]

Do you actually read most of what you see or just blip through it, A.Wolf style?

Just yesterday the FPJourne factory website itself posted a half dozen fakes (wall clocks, not wrist watches, but still) and warned people against them. The watches have only been around since 1999, so maybe not as many fakes but they are out there.

https://www.copywatchstyle.com/FP-Jo...-Blue_121.html

Also, this, funny but not related to the counterfeits:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Watches/com...pjourne_do_at/

You obviously didn't watch the Rolex video I posted either. None of these fakes is any good to anyone in the know, but they do exist. And as far as precious metal watch fakes, they look abysmal, not even close to genuine.

I'll watch the youtube video but there are clearly Rolex fakes that Rolex dealers can't tell by looking. Some will get it right and some will get it wrong. It is like Redietz and sports betting but you have to get the right super-clone and I don't care enough to dig deep to find where to spend $1k or whatever on the finest fake Rolex.

As far as FP Journe - I liked this quote 'Then F.P. pinched my wife's bottom and winked at me... it is a little known fact that if you get all the people who hate F.P. together, they'd fill lake Genève and drown, but he'd still sell every watch 100 times over.'

I was going to guess he said some anti-semitic shit if there really was an issue like Nico said but Nico is just a self-promoter so who knows how true it actually is.

But after reading that whole thread it seems more likely he did some sexist stuff but men aren't going to sell their watches over that. He had to have said something anti-semitic. That might make one's watch brand lose value.

[accountinquestion]

Glad to have someone to talk watches with.

I am and always have been somewhat of a "value shopper," so when I decided to buy a few automatics I cast my net widely.

Spent a bit of time learning about different makes, their histories and their offerings.

My favorite, the one I usually wear, is from a newer, lesser known maker, Maurice LaCroix: I really like the way the watch looks and of course the build quality is excellent.

Got a great deal: a new watch, but about two years from new when I bought it: was originally listed at almost $10K but I got it for about $3.5K from reputable online vendor.

I wear it when I "dress up" a bit, and when I go to the casino: a cool accessory.

see:

I have to wonder what the future will hold for automatic watches given how most young-un's these days don't wear a watch, they just look at their phone.

I like that watch. Perpetual calendars are the most utilitarian of complications. The cheap Chinese watches that manage to pull this off have the year on them which is kinda silly. The watch is only good until 2032 or some such. haha .. a real watch would never do something so silly

You approach to buying it is basically what I'll do. Same rough price points.

But as far as the auto-winder... you don't want to be setting that watch when you go out. There are 4 things to set. Time consumng and it appears many watches can be broken by setting the calendar when the things are anywhere near midnight. Is that the case with that watch?

How does the setting work? Does it have buttons on the side? Does the crown have 2 positions?

Anyway, I'll give you $2200 in BTC.

[MDawg]

I tend to agree.

Great post. Someone with some fucking logic.

Two posts by two people who don't own Rolexes, one of whom owns a fake, both posts rampant with misinformation.

[jdaewoo]

One post by a retard that doesn't gamble.

[MDawg]

I like that watch. Perpetual calendars are the most utilitarian of complications.

V's watch is not a perpetual, it's a standard calendar watch, but known as a "triple calendar" because it displays the (1) day of the week, (2) date of the month, and the (3) month of the year (along with a moonphase).

Here is a perpetual calendar Audemars I own, a classic old solid 18K watch (the Quantieme Perpetual Calendar):



A triple calendar requires manual adjustment five times a year for months shorter than 31 days, while a perpetual calendar automatically accounts for the different lengths of months and leap years, requiring no manual adjustment until the year 2100.

[accountinquestion]

I tend to agree.

Great post. Someone with some fucking logic.

Two posts by two people who don't own Rolexes, one of whom owns a fake, both posts rampant with misinformation.

What did I say that was misinformation? Oh you believe that Chinese can't mimick a rolex that well.

Bro, they have had decades to refine their processes. Literally.

What about a Rolex can't be copied? Or would be that difficult?

I will say I have no idea where to get that level of craftsmanship. If you are buying a fake then you might very well buy one a professional rolex dealer can readily tell but I would bet money you couldn't. And I don't know where to get the greatest copies but they seem to be out there.

The link to the fake FP Journe is out of stock btw. Find a working source for me, please.

[MisterV]

How does the setting work? Does it have buttons on the side?

Yes, four small, flush / slightly recessed buttons I use a supplied tool to push in.

[MDawg]

[jdaewoo]

Did this retard just suggest that he's an advantage player?

[MDawg]

Let's just say that I drive a variety of vehicles ranging from the latest models to classics. Obviously the classics aren't taken out of the garages very often.

We put a car or two in the Vegas Concours d'Elegance a year ago, not this year.


You talked about your Volvo being a sort of money pit or at least requiring a lot of your attention as you do the work yourself. Well, with classic cars you have to (or at least I do) put all original parts into them which the complete restoration process may take years. Been there, and I have at least one more classic car I need to have worked on because it sat idle in the garage too long.

I have not done any of the restoration work myself on my classics, although I did have an Italian car in the past (not a Ferrari) I worked on myself. That was a lot of work, that was ongoing.

I've had Volvos in the past where I changed the brake pads and rotors myself, but I haven't done any of that sort of thing in some years. These days the most I might do myself is change the engine or cabin air filters.

V you still do the maintenance yourself on your Volvo?

No longer own a Volvo, but on our European SUV, I don't do the work on it myself. I did just change all of the Bosch window wipers myself, but otherwise, I haven't been under a car since I changed the brake pads and rotors on our late model Volvo (which no longer own), some years ago.

Nowadays I take our new cars to the dealer, and in most cases after seeing how much they want, take it to the independent shop national chain that works on all of our cars regularly. That independent shop still offers lifetime alignments for a couple hundred dollars which I have purchased on all our cars - you're not saying you align your cars yourself, are you?

On our Euro SUV, I did pay about thirty-five hundred to the dealer to change the brake pads and rotors, and change the brake fluid. That hurt. But the pads and rotors were special high end ones for this special model, and I wasn't sure if the independent shop would do the same job with the exact same parts, and the one independent shop (not the usual chain we go to) wanted almost as much as the dealer using the parts that supposedly could come only from the dealer itself, so I just bit the bullet and paid.

But in general the independent chain we go to will charge 35-40% less than the dealer. Plus since it is national, I can take the cars in whether we are in California or Nevada.

As far as my classics, the parts going into them must be all factory original, and that ups the price considerably right there for any restoration or needed work.

We keep an all electric super fast Euro sports car in Vegas, and that's still under warranty. I don't know if the independent chain can handle working on that, but probably they can, when the time comes if still own it.

Do not own a Tesla. Do Tesla owners take their cars only to Tesla for service?

[MisterV]

Yes, when possible I do all automotive maintenance myself on both the old Volvo turbos and on "the wife's" '21 CX-5 turbo: not because I have to, but because I enjoy it.

Working on cars exercises both mind and body and the more one does it the better they get at doing it.

No, I don't align my vehicles.

I bought my gated '95 Ferrari 456GT in 2010 thinking I could maintain it but I quickly realized I was over my head: wound up helping fund the retirement of a Portland foreign car repair specialist.

I don't regret buying it but I wouldn't be interested in buying another exotic: it was always "what will go wrong next?"

In hindsight, I suppose i got the most pleasure by simply looking at it...beautiful automotive sculpture.

[kewlJ]

We keep an all electric super fast Euro sports car in Vegas, and that's still under warranty.

I am super impressed! Just curious....do you keep that at the mid 7 figure mansion?

[MDawg]

https://www.getyarn.io/yarn-clip/e83...5-b014de86c646

[MDawg]

my gated '95 Ferrari 456GT

The 456GT is a fine piece of machinery.

But there is reason why you rarely see one of these Ferraris or Lamborghinis with more than 30K miles, and that people rarely drive them is only part of the reason - the main is that they start falling apart at around that mileage. We have and have had a few in the family and especially as they get older and driven more they do become quite costly to maintain.