Slate article about whether or not Vegas is "dead"

[kewlJ]

There is still public 3:2 double deck blackjack including with DAS and S17, and you may set up a private game like that if you have enough clout.

Yeah because THAT is what we are talking about here. Private games and having enough "clout". Dan Druff specifically commented on casual gamblers and you responded with this.

Way back when I was playing Atlantic City and living in Phila, I used to take the train to AC. One day returning home on the train, there were two older women (from Baltimore based on their conversation). They were discussing how they used to win some trips, and now they NEVER had a winning trip. They specifically mentioned how their money doesn't even last as long.

These women knew nothing about the odds or that casinos had tightened up their slot machines. All they knew is their money didn't last as long and they rarely had a winning trip like they used to. Once people start to realize that and feel that way, then there in no enjoyment to them playing and they stop or make less frequent trips. It is a case of greed by casinos. They are not content to have a reasonable edge on EVERY game, they have to squeeze and drive normal recreational customers away. That leaves them with a smaller customer base that they then have to squeeze even harder. Until they squeeze themselves right out of business.

As for 3-2 public double deck blackjack on the strip. Those games are "counter-trap". They are watched closely (hawked) and any signs of card counting or hole-carding and the player is backed off or 86ed. Sometimes a player is just varying bets a bit (not with the count) and they are backed off. The ONLY players "allowed" to play those games are losing players. They don't even want players that just play a good basic strategy game (still -EV).

They might as well hang a sign saying only losing and system players allowed. Which of course is why Turtle is welcome.