Originally Posted by DGenBen View Post
Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
I don't have direct access to OSN. I know some APs do. from what I understand it used to be easy for non-casino people to get into the database through a backdoor method, but that has been shut off.

I just have a friend that alerts me to anything concerning me and that is all I need. I am also very appreciative of having that.

But I am wondering, what the database looks like these days with all the machine and slot AP that players have gravitated to. Are there more machine/slot APs showing up in the databases? Is it filled with multi-carders?
I may be wrong about this, but generally speaking I don’t think many machine or slot APs including multi-carders show up in databases.

This is just from talking to others that do this, it doesn’t seem to come up.

The way casinos normally deal with these types of players is to either 86 them or cut off their mail.

Total speculation on my part is that this may be because casinos may have a strong incentive to share information on table games where the players are taking money directly from casinos (and the money can be large), but casinos may not really mind that much if a machine pro or multi-carder hits their competition down the road.

I’m talking about lone wolves or a multi-carder that runs a few friends cards.

I’m sure that for big organized teams that take down very big plays or run 20+ different cards some of those people do end up in databases & I have in fact heard of that happening although it’s not near as common as table players.
Seems like it'd largely depend on the security type manager at the casino. Whatever his title is. It is easy for them to just turn stuff off, reset pins, whatever. They have to care enough and understand. THe one MCer I met while doing it appears to have gone broke when he should have killed it. At least he was lookng for some form of gambling work. Would love to know all his stories as he probably accumulated a lot of info. It is kinda interesting all the various approaches. If it was still my thing I'd probably try and track him down and debrief him. lol

I feel if they could easily figure out who you are a multi-carder then it might be far more likely. I was very small time. All the slot APing and BJ videos/sites have brought in a lot of people into the AP world who could easily go to the next step. That whole thing seems like it'll just get rapidly harder to manage.