Addendum to Post 4111 of "Professional Sportsbetting" Thread

[redietz]

Well, I want to thank all the "APs" for the congratulatory notes regarding Post 4111 of the "Professional Sportsbetting" thread and the follow-up posts.

Yes, my only future (thus far) this season was Texas Tech at 125-1 to win the college football title. QB was out for four games, then hobbled around on one leg for another couple, but here they are, and with a bye.

That took a little insight.

And here's the not-insignificant kicker. Somebody go look up which team led the nation in ATS record. LOL.

Anyway, I wanted to thank everyone for the congratulatory notes. I realize this was just a minor contribution to the amazing expertise and profit-sharing angles on this forum, even though I do have a difficult time finding any. My search skills are clearly lacking.

Tips can be sent to 1412 Forest Dale Lane, Johnson City, TN 37604.

[accountinquestion]

Well, I want to thank all the "APs" for the congratulatory notes regarding Post 4111 of the "Professional Sportsbetting" thread and the follow-up posts.

Yes, my only future (thus far) this season was Texas Tech at 125-1 to win the college football title. QB was out for four games, then hobbled around on one leg for another couple, but here they are, and with a bye.

That took a little insight.

And here's the not-insignificant kicker. Somebody go look up which team led the nation in ATS record. LOL.

Anyway, I wanted to thank everyone for the congratulatory notes. I realize this was just a minor contribution to the amazing expertise and profit-sharing angles on this forum, even though I do have a difficult time finding any. My search skills are clearly lacking.

Tips can be sent to 1412 Forest Dale Lane, Johnson City, TN 37604.

Congrats Redietz. If i was a sports bettor and such maybe I'd pay more attention to these things. I hope you kill it and have been using all this time away from the forum making sharp decisions that crushed books at 125:1.

But to find someone's true results, someone has to tally up everything and it has to be posted beforehand. There used to be a forum very similar to this named "Roughing The Punter". I'm not sure if there was any overlap with this forum as far as user but that was the original intent but it is very labor intensive to track picks and tally/grade. Just unappreciated. So while I am happy to hear you got Texas Tech no one can make any judgement from such a singular thing. You need to also learn how to copy and paste the URL to that thread at least. Everyone is just too busy but I'm glad to hear you did well. seriously. Happy Holidays ol boy.

[accountinquestion]

https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...l=1#post201299

I mean .. where is the full list of picks along with corresponding "units"? Redietz my man this just isnt how you gain credibility amongst sharp gamblers.

Regardless, glad to hear you did well and I only repeat this because I mean it. You're good for this forum and when not getting all twisted about "APs" and going off on them ... you're ok.

[kewlJ]

I will swallow my pride and respond to this and endure whatever criticism there is for me doing so, because I just can't NOT respond to this crap.

I realize this was just a minor contribution to the amazing expertise and profit-sharing angles on this forum,

Tips can be sent to 1412 Forest Dale Lane, Johnson City, TN 37604.

This is NOT a minor contribution to anything. It is in fact ZERO contribution because as AcctinQ stated you shared nothing at any point about what kind of money you wagered on this 125-1 shot. Was it $1? Was it $100? Was it $1000? (which would have taken some effort spreading the wager around). You can not claim transparency if you have intentionally left out the amounts involved in every post.

Redietz has a history of posting a futures bet like this in which he intentionally omits any amount wagered, just as he did here. Then if the bet goes south he will say something like he had only bet "lunch money" on it anyway. That sound familiar to anyone?

If you want to look at transparency on sports betting picks on this forum, I will point you to two real good examples. 1) Dan Druff. Druff tells you what he is betting before the event and what the running total is after. He has told what his unit of wager is, but prefers to talk in units which is fine.

Example number 2) would be myself. Lets go back to the first 2 weeks of the NFL season. Remember that underdog (plus points) play on underdogs for the first two weeks of the season? I told exactly how much I was betting PRIOR to every game or week. And it was so much that I had to go outside the usual sportsbooks that I deal with and bet some overflow at B & M books here in Vegas. I told that too.....BEFOREHAND. That play was a loser this year. (first in about 15 years), but THAT is what transparency looks like. There was no guessing at what I bet and what I lost (in this case).

So sorry Red, I'll give you credit for the pick at some low (lunch money) amount. But that is all you get. You get ZERO points for transparency or building any credibility.

But I do hope it is enough to pay the taxes on the property that your late wife bought, which I see you are still at, despite all that malarky about moving into a new place in the shadow of the speedway.

[mcap]

you need to unbunch your panties kewlj. Red has a public ATS record for decades. And don't go writing an essay about Kim Lee now.

[kewlJ]

you need to unbunch your panties kewlj. Red has a public ATS record for decades. And don't go writing an essay about Kim Lee now.

Why is it not fair to mention Kim Lee? He has seen all the publications and added up dietz record and it is not enough to make any real money from. And isn't that what this is all about....making real money?

Furthermore it has now been proven that those contests are a tool that touts use so they can cherry-pick results in trying to get new suckers or clients. Don't pretend it is anything more than that.

If this latest Redietz nonsense were real, he would have told you exactly what he had wagered @+125 and stood to make. But that is not what he did. Instead he followed tout 101, so he could "fudge it" at the end depending on if the wager won (was hedgable) or not.

[kewlJ]

If Bob Dietz is looking for some kind of credibility based on transparency, he can do what Dan Druff does at anytime. New year approaching, so perfect timing. Post EVERY pick he makes, including amount of every pick (or if he is using same amount, he can use units instead) and lets just see how the worlds greatest sports bettor does for the year?

Anyway, that's enough for me.

[redietz]

KewlJ, of course, is being less than honest. He knows I have previously posted futures tickets on the Retro Road trip Thread, which anyone can access at any time. Actual copies of tickets from my sizeable futures way back when, as the "retro" suggests.

Also, he knows I shared this particular future with people on this site privately well in advance, which he doesn't mention for some reason. LOL.

He also knows I bemoaned this play when the QB was injured, which I posted. For some reason he doesn't post this.

He also knows I did not mention a single other future at any time this year.

In summary, is there a more dishonest, attention-whoring, pitiful excuse for an "honest gambler" than this kewlJ character, flooding this forum with all of his bullshit and make-believe gambling?

He just can't stand it when someone outshines his alleged "expertise," which strongly suggests his main purpose in being here is to plant a flag so he can sucker people into his bullshit narrative. Now why does he do that? Well, one can only guess, but it's pretty obvious he's running some "I'm a gay gambler" schtick. You can figure the rest from there. It's been done a thousand times before. Banal stuff. Visitation is down, and kewlJ is aging, so he probably needs more attention.

VCT is his home. LOL. Great poster.

Final Note: KewlJ asked if I was betting a dollar or a tenner on these futures. Well, that was very much a tell. Now one might ask why kewlJ thinks someone would do this. Well, there's a very good reason kewlJ's immediate response is that someone would do this. I'm sure you all can figure it out. As I said previously -- the only way kewlJ's bonus whoring would be tolerated on the sites he mentioned BY NAME, is that he was betting tenners himself.

[kewlJ]

Final Note: KewlJ asked if I was betting a dollar or a tenner on these futures. Well, that was very much a tell. Now one might ask why kewlJ thinks someone would do this. Well, there's a very good reason kewlJ's immediate response is that someone would do this. I'm sure you all can figure it out. As I said previously -- the only way kewlJ's bonus whoring would be tolerated on the sites he mentioned BY NAME, is that he was betting tenners himself.

What sports books have I mentioned by NAME dietz? You have no idea what sports books I am using. I know you think you do, but you don't. Go ahead list even 1 of the 5 books I am currently using for my bonus play?

And if you are going to list YouWager or oddsmaker you would be wrong. These are two books I mentioned back when I bet recreationally, before the bonus play I have done for 2.5 years. And they were the first and only two books that cut me off. Once closing my account, the other no-bonusing me. Neither is part of the 5 I currently use or has been for quite a while.

And it is kind of funny that those are the two that I mentioned prior to doing this bonus play and those are the two I have been cut off from. Almost as if someone....someone jealous of AP's making money betting sports notified them to look for an account matching what I do. Almost.... And STILL you haven't stopped me from making more money in one year, than you ever did betting sports (with the bonuses).

I don't know how many people here are betting sports, but if there are 6 people betting sports on this forum, then YOU deitz aren't in the top 5. If there are 11 people betting sports, you aren't in the top 10. What do you think of that Mr greatest sports better of all time?

[Don Perignom]

I instantly knew that was a redietz title. I'm not a professional, but I would have bet oversized currency on it.

[kewlJ]

Maybe what Redietz has done on his decade on this forum isn't as bad as Mdawg or Singer with the ridiculously phony claims. Maybe there is no pictures of fake jackpots, or shit like that, but it is just as phony as the gambling claims of Dawg, Singer, Druff's buddy Christopher Mitchel, Micky Maze, the blackjack Army Guy or any of the YouTubuers IMO. Bullshit phony claims that in many cases defy the math as well as the way things work.

Redeitz for God sakes was/is a tout, who told us he was a professional sports bettor for 40 years. A professional sports bettor doesn't need "clients" that he sells to. He doesn't need other people's money. A professional sports bettor, bets, wins (more than he loses) and continues that cycle indefinitely. THAT is NOT what Red did. whatever money he made, it was from selling, not betting. And that makes him no different than these other bullshitters to me.

It always boils down to one thing....the math. Most of these guys the math just doesn't work. Redietz doesn't even seem to understand the math, EV ect. And that is the difference between my claims and theirs. People may decide they don't like me or don't want to believe me, but the math of what I claim....works! And for good reason. (no special plays needed, no voodoo needed) Just good old math. Gambling and advantage play is MATH.

But have your moment with your 125-1 futures bet Red, if it is important to you.

[mickeycrimm]

In those Thursday night games redietz had the favorite winning and the scores close to the totals numbers. The favorites won all three and the scores were close to the over/under lines. Redietz stayed close on the spreads too.

So this week we got the Browns playing the Bears. Bears -7.5, total 38.5

So whaddya say, redietz

Bears win 21-17?

or Bears win 24-14?

Do it week after week one is bound to get close a time or two

How did you do on the other dozen Thursday Night games played this year?

[accountinquestion]

Problem is redietz doesn't believe in assigning an EV so he can't know when not to bet. Sure he can pick a side.

[kewlJ]

Do it week after week one is bound to get close a time or two

How did you do on the other dozen Thursday Night games played this year?

And what it is called when you highlight or only acknowledge the good results, with narry a mention of the bad results? Cherry-picking right?

And that is exactly what Dietz did all those years with the contests. he would talk about the good results, because he could use that to "tout" to new clients. but narry a mention of the bad results. Only someone like Kim Lee that saw ALL the results would really know that redietz wasn't good enough to make a living picking and betting sports. And THAT is why Kim Lee's conclusion is meaningful. He has access to all results.

And with the Youwager contest it was even dumber him mentioning that he came close. You know what coming close to the exact score gets you in that contest? $0! So why even mention it?

At least him winning or doing well in a couple contests that he cherry-picked translated into money when he was able to use that to sell to new cleints.

[accountinquestion]

Redietz knows more about college fb than kewl knows about bj.

[kewlJ]

Redietz knows more about college fb than kewl knows about bj.

Good try, acctinQ.

Red is handicapping teams and key players like QB, like they did in the 1970's, 1980's. THAT is NOT how people win at sports betting in 2025. Today and for a while now, it is about numbers, not specific players. You have to know the expected value of a road team getting 6.5 points. That kind of thing. As you know and have pointed out even today, Redietz has demonstrated he doesn't understand any of this. He doesn't understand EV. He thinks EV is opinion, which equates to guesswork. . He is still trying to figure out how Team A with a hobbled QB is going to perform based on how he performed over the past 3 games. What he does is last century.

EV is not opinion or guesswork.

[accountinquestion]

Redietz knows more about college fb than kewl knows about bj.

Good try, acctinQ.

Not sure what I am trying outside of pointing out something I believe.

Curious what the others think? I believe that redietz is very much an expert. Kewl is also a bj expert ... just not at the level of redietz.

[kewlJ]

Redietz knows more about college fb than kewl knows about bj.

Good try, acctinQ.

Not sure what I am trying outside of pointing out something I believe.

Curious what the others think? I believe that redietz is very much an expert. Kewl is also a bj expert ... just not at the level of redietz.

I am not sure how YOU are qualified to judge or have an informed opinion about either? You recently revealed your 6 month advantage play history involved multi-carding. How does that qualify you to judge anything about BJ AP or who might be a sports betting expert?

And again Red's comments on Ev pretty much disqualify him as an sports betting expert. Go to some sports betting forum or sports betting heavy forum and post what Redietz said about EV and see if ANY of them think he would qualify as an expert.

[regnis]

Redietz gave me this months ago. I put a sizable amount on it but nowhere near what he put on it. If they make the finals, i will probably hedge.

[kewlJ]

Redietz gave me this months ago. I put a sizable amount on it but nowhere near what he put on it. If they make the finals, i will probably hedge.

That is fine Regnis. If he made this pick, good for him and good for you. But he didn't do it publicly, full transparency, including what he wagered, therefore he doesn't get to come here after the fact and try to use that as credibility.

What would have happened if Texas Tech would have had a couple key injuries and gone 8-4 or 9-3 and missed the playoffs? Would we on the forum be hearing about it now? NO.

If Red wanted to use this pick as credibility, which he NOW seems to be doing, he should have stated from the beginning what he bet, amount and odds, just like other real sports bettors do. Most aren't seeking credibility so they don't do that. But Redietz is seeking credibility so no past posting allowed.