That slogan would really fit for any bus able to maneuver the roads from my place to Cherokee. You'd need a Vulcan with nine lives to steer that thing. Carolina -- I'd visit Cherokee much more often if I could catch a charter helicopter into that place. Or one of those VTOL planes.
I'm sorry but this is just too funny. Carolina, do you really, REALLY believe that any host anywhere is a "guardian angel" for any player anywhere--unless it's a mother? They're just doing their job for their property and for the entire organization, which is not to be your "friend" BTW. Their #1 job is to make you feel as comfortable as possible losing as much as possible, all so you'll want to come back as soon as possible to do it all over again. If you believe you have a guardian angel somewhere on any casino staff, ask the angel to reimburse you 50% of your losses the next time you drop a grand and see what this heavenly figure will protect you with.Originally Posted by carolinajacket
It amazes me how people get so infatuated with the idea of a host. It's similar to watching one of the many, many clueless vp players sitting at their machines and holding a pair of 5's with a face card. These people keep the casinos running, and people who think hosts are there first and foremost to "help" them, keep the casinos' futures bright. My goodness......
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Whenever they start coming around, I immediately start playing defensively and set lower win goals until I feel comfortable again.
Sling--what does that mean? How does one play VP "defensively"? Correct strategy is correct strategy. What can you do differently to be playing "defensively"?
Yes-but you can also quit-at my level-quarters-when just $5 ahead. Normally I try to play out the 400 credits.Originally Posted by regnis
Sling... do you consider the appearance of a host as a jinx?? Do you find the machines stop hitting winners when a host approaches?
I find this phenomenon about hosts that visit players at machines absolutely intriguing. I've been playing vp since 1990, and pretty regularly since then. Never have I had any host from any property stop by the machine I was playing. And if they did, I would tell them to leave me alone and I'd most likely go to a different casino to continue my effort.
Gee, Rob, if you look like "trouble" I guess hosts would avoid you.
I'm just saying l've never seen deader machines and more discouraged players than on those days. And why else would they pick those particular days?Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Not sure I understand the big deal here. At Caesars properties, as soon as you put your card in a host is supposed to come over. It is not your personal host--just any host on call at that time. They come over, say hi, introduce themselves, and ask if they can do anything for you. Then they say good luck or have a nice time or something like that and walk away. It takes about 30 seconds all told. I realize simple civility is pretty much dead, but what's the big deal with this?
Regnis if it was only 30 seconds it wouldn't be a problem. It's when a host or floor person or security guard wants to have a conversation about stocks or Facebook or wants to watch you play or cheer you on it becomes a problem.
How is this possible? I've played at Caesars numerous times--many in the high limit area and some at the $25 & $100 machines--and I've never had a host approach me. I even had four Aces with a kicker on a $25 machine there about 7 years ago, and no one bugged me then or ever. Could be because I never tip the slugs on the floor? Maybe if you feel the need to have a host lead you by the hand or something? Maybe then they will pester you at machines? I can't imagine anyone wanting this or even accepting being watched like that. Why? Ever hear of staying under the radar?Originally Posted by regnis
They don't like you Rob. Do you shower?
He does only if the maid left brand new soap that day. LOL!
These conversations are very entertaining. Thanks guys.
I always have a host come up to me once I start playing too (at the start of each trip). It freaked me out at first, but now I'm used to it. no big deal. 30 seconds. As far as being under the radar---They are always watching. Maybe not the lazy casino hosts, but someone is always watching.Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Over the years I've never had the need to contact or talk to any of these hosts, including at CET properties--and I've been to every one of them around the country multiple times always with the rooms comped. If you book everything via the website you'll fare overall far better than you ever will by getting that "oh so special" and your "friend away from home" host involved. Marketing offers are worth way more than what any of these people can bestow upon their "special friends". Over time you will feel the pain that someone like Dan always feels when you keep getting roped into discussing things with any casino employee. The marketing computers are your real friends.
I can't believe the majority of people cannot see this.
Ha! When I'm in any hotel I purposely take the longest, hottest showers each & every day you could ever imagine, and that's because I can't stand listening to all this stupid environmental green crap that's the fad of the day.Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
The real question here is why have hosts never approached me? Because I'm savvy enuf to not beg them for anything, ever, and to not pretend that they're my "friend". You set up a relationship with these people and all you're doing is asking to be watched much more closely than if you've always stayed away from them. And what is it that the casino WANTS you to do? Yes, exactly. They want and need you to be setting up these relationships. Again, intelligent, winning players do not care about hosts, they don't care about gifts & cruises, and have I said this?.... they don't care about hosts. All they care about is what this whole casino thing is all about--they only care about the money. Learn how to win and the rest of this stuff finally becomes the nonsense it has always been.
It baffles me how such a simple concept eludes so many people.
Rob-maybe they don't come to you because your card isn't in. I agree it can be disruptive if a conversation ensues, but every time I go it is simply 30 seconds or less. They are just doing their job and I don't feel the need to be rude or disrespectful to them, whether I want them there or not. I do nothing to encourage them to linger and it is always 30 seconds and gone so who cares. I can spare anyone 30 seconds--I aint that important.
I always use a card these days and for the majority of my professional career I used them. Before 1999 when I was an AP however, I was just like most players and always had hosts whom I felt were my special friends and who I regularly made my reservations thru, at wherever I played. And yes, now I do remember them visiting me at the machines back then. I was always respectful towards them, and in fact, I gave several of them Christmas gifts. I even tipped handpays. I was an all-around casino customer, but I have learned.
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