Ah!! That's the difference between us, Rob. I'm a journalist and a recreational player who is more concerned with getting the truth out to the public. You were/are a professional VP player. My concern is for all of the consumers who sit down at a video poker machine. And this is why I first approached you for the interviews we did: if there is information that will help all consumers, I want them to know about it.Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Thanks.
Then you might have missed the part where I train as many players as possible to do better at the video poker machines without charge because I believe they all should have the best opportunity when going up against the casinos. I did that as a professional player & I continue to do it as a recreational player. And I would never be doing such a thing without having done exceptionally well myself, and without having proven to myself what I inform about the less than 100% randomness of the machines.
Now I'm sounding like you on LVA when someone didn't answer one of your questions: Why have you never required similar absolute proof that the machines operate totally random before professing a belief in that method?
The "proof" that the machines are random comes from the published rules of the NGC. I have that faith in our government. Now, if you are going to challenge what is published, and you have proof, I want to expose that. If the industry is rigged and the published rules are a lie, then that should be proven. Where do you prove such things? In court. That's our system.
I also published my findings that the machines are not random on my site and in Gaming Today. The result was my publisher being pressured by the game manufacturer and in turn me being pressured by my publisher to sign an agreement not to say any more about it in the paper, on radio, or on TV.
The part about you trusting the gov't....why do you think I told you how gov't. contracts are very commonly enacted? Do you think they want the public to believe in anything other than what they throw up on the Internet? It's up to individuals to get to the bottom of things that affect their lives when it comes to gov't. issues, and I've done that on this one.
This is what's a bit funny - and in a nice way: You believe what you read from the gov't. on the Internet is 100% gospel; you believe what the casinos - who want nothing other than to take as much money from you as they can - tell you; you believe what advantage players say about randomness - who you know would go into tilt mode if they ever even considered anything not being exactly as they want to believe it is; you do not believe me, even after telling you what a machine programmer told me, and after I tested it out on a machine in my home and see it occur regularly on machines in casinos, and after telling you what happened when I published the story.....yet you lose playing video poker every year AND YOU STILL WONDER WHY, WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY NOT BEING WILLING TO BELIEVE THAT WHICH THE ONLY PROFESSIONAL IN THE BUSINESS HAS EVER INVESTIGATED!!??
As an impartial observer here, I've gotta say that I'm surprised at Alan's faith (pretty much blind faith) in published guidelines. I'm not vouching for Rob here, far from it, but it would not surprise me one iota if what he says is correct. The Gaming Commission does not work for the public. That's a fairy tale mentality. Every casino investor, casino manager, and individual working for the Gaming Commission has motive, means, and opportunity to present a Disneyesque facade to the public, while allowing the business of "gaming" to make more money.
I'll jump in and answer the question Rob posed to Alan. I'll speculate that one of the many reasons Alan prefers to believe what he believes is that he has hundreds of hours invested in believing it and playing accordingly. That's reason enough to not want to believe something else. Frank could chime in with cognitive dissonance theory right about now.
The limits of knowledge: it is truly frightening to actually examine what we take on faith in this world. Medieval notions of reality, now appearing quaint, were taken as absolutely true. We have our present-day myths as to "what we know" -- and the fact is, we take an extraordinary amount on blind faith. Faith in a Gaming Commission is a curious object in which to place one's trust.
Today I had someone who reads this forum that lives in LV come out to meet me for a lesson on my ARTT strategy and how to detect cold cycles. We came across 2 of them and we switched machines both times--once to the player's distress because she was perfectly happy where she was. Her win goal was $200. She left Pahrump with an extra $326.
My comments in this thread are complete. ARTT (advanced romp-thru-town) is not the same as my SPS, but it is one of five different winning strategies that I've been successful with over the years.
One more thing. Yesterday I received an e-mail that guided me over to LVA, where Frank started a thread and our envious friend Lurkerposter gave it his best to talk about Alan & I instead. As usual, he came in second place--which in this case is LAST place. So while you're here LP, please pass on to lloyddalover that the last time I talked about that coward fedomalley was to ridicule him some more for chickening out on his proposed bet with me
Rob, would you be willing to take a scan or photo of that agreement and post it here? I think it would be very interesting to read the exact terminology used. If indeed you discovered something we just might find it spelled out in that agreement they pressured you to sign. Usually, agreements like that to stop future publication, etc., are couched in terms which spell out a reason.Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
But a bigger question is why would you sign such an agreement if you had "the goods" and the proof? Usually, agreements to stop publication are entered into to stop future litigation. If you were being threatened with litigation, the "truth" is the best defense.
Now the question about why I believe the games are random? The manufacturers say so, the regulators say so, the casinos say so, and other "experts" say so. Need I list them? And on the other side of "random argument" is you, Rob.
Rob, you know I respect you, and I value your comments, your strategy and your knowledge of the game and your win record using your Singer System. The only point where I have a serious disagreement with you is about the games not being random, and cold cycles being programmed. If you want to win me over you are going to have to prove it to me.
And about my losing at video poker year after year? I'm not embarrassed by that because I'm just a recreational player who never tried to be a pro or an expert. I don't need a "win record" to sell books, magazines, strategy cards, or be on the lecture circuit.
Redietz: until I met Rob, no one ever raised the issue of programmed cold cycles or non-random video poker games. When Rob can prove that everyone else is wrong, I'll be very happy to adjust my play.
In the meantime, I have gone through cold cycles as well as hot cycles. Everyone but Rob says the cycles are nothing more than random events. Prove to me they're not, if you can.
Rob, it appears that Mr LurkerPoster missed Frank's statement that he is a "salaried" video poker player who does not play with his own money. Hmmm.... I wonder what impact that will have on Mr LurkerPoster from his higher-than-thou perch?
You know you just said you believe the game manufacturers, the government, the casinos....and the "experts"? And do you know how funny that sounds to someone who worked 10 years in the government, had a successful career to 15 years as a businessman in corporate America, and has been a professional gambler for 12 years who wrote countless investigative articles about video poker & who has a high probability of having been the only pro vp player to ever win at the game on a very consistent basis? And are you aware that 3 of the 4 entities you mentioned are ecompletely in bed with each other on the confidentiality of their gaming agreement?
You don't want to lose--you want to win. And don't use the cover of being a recreational player for it being OK to lose with you. I honestly can't name one player I've ever met who thinks it's ok to lose because they're not a professional. Makes no sense. You want to win badly, and you're too lazy to learn how to do it properly while using every excuse in the book not to have to change your routine. Someone like me doesn't come along all that often who offers what I have to offer.
If you want to continue to believe the machines you play are absolutely random and if you really want to learn to do better, then go seek out Bob Dancer and he'll charge you $250/hr. for training & advice. You'll be in the safe hands of someone who says he wins with the method he uses, yet still has to work multiple jobs in what should be his retirement years. Or....you could sit with me for maybe 10 hours in total learning all the specifics of what I did to become a successful player, you'll learn on low denominational machines--AND YOU WON'T BE CHARGED A DIME because I don't need the money! Plus you'll have the story of your life.
You still want to believe the "experts", the casinos and all that? Does the Missus know this?
LP wants attention and will ignore that Frank's just a cash employee. He wants the five people left over there to believe what we're arguing about here is life-changing too!Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
I have a question bordering on this. I've followed Rob a couple o' years and another recommendation is changing CASINOS. No doubt, Alan, as you have gone forever on days at machines, so with certain casinos in my case. One day I can't lose-even when I make mistakes and realize it too late. It's as if the CASINO is in a hot streak. Coming back the same day the next week, I wonder where the hell that casino went. I find this to be just as important in strategy as the games themselves. Thanks.
There IS something to changing casinos and not just machines when your machine enters a cold cycle. It could be something's going on casino-wide inside the place, but I have no info on that and it's likely not probable. But, in my earlier days of playing professionally, I actually did change casinos whenever my machine entered a cold cycle....just in case. But it had more to to do with putting in play at different casinos and being younger where running all over the place didn't really matter.
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