No Mickey, it is not useless information to the casinos. It tells the casino how much play there was and how much actual coin out or ticket out there was. It does not include hand pay. Did you ever read the regulations of the NGC?

But you are claiming that these meters will tell you the hold or payback and I am telling you that they do not.

A machine might have a program for a return of 98.2% but it actually might pay out 105% or it might pay out 91% or it might pay out 60 percent. You don't know -- and you will never be able to tell by the meters on the machines.

What you are in effect saying is that if a machine just hit five big payouts in a row, it must be a machine with a low hold or a high payout -- because five big payouts in a row would show up on the coin out meter. Is that what you believe?

Past is not prologue when it comes to looking at the meters on machines. You might as well use a divining rod.