Yes, regnis misspoke about 1/11 and synergistic is correct that out of 36 dice combinations a 2 will show up 11 times for 11/36.

I wrote this before: the answer "1/11" would apply to a question such as this: "the combination 2-2 on two dice shows up in how many combinations of two dice with at least one die that shows a 2?" The answer to that question is indeed 1/11.

And obviously, that is not the original question.

Unfortunatley the "1/11 crowd" is using that 1/11 answer to respond to the actual question being asked. And I can understand why they are doing it. They are looking at all of the combinations of two dice -- and there are 11 of them -- showing at least one two. And they are correctly identifying that only one combination of the 11 dice that show a 2 is the single combination 2-2. BUT THAT IS NOT THE QUESTION AND THAT IS NOT THE ANSWER TO THE ORIGINAL QUESTION.

As I said early on -- this is a matter of reading comprehension. The math that says 1/11 is correct if you ask a different question.

In fact, this nonsense about which die is showing a 2 is part of the convoluted thinking to justify the 1/11 answer. And again, it doesn't matter which die shows a 2 when there are only two dice to consider in the ORIGINAL QUESTION. But (and this is very important) if the question were worded differently and you looked at all of the dice combinations with a 2 then you could justify that you need to know which of the two dice shows a 2.

It's really become silly. The "non math" people "get it" because they are able to look at the question and use their common sense. It's the "math people" who insist on the convoluted mathematical thinking which gets the wrong answer because it doesn't answer the actual question.

I've given up on the WOV forum because they are all math guys.