Look you guys are nuts. Are you trying to sell us snake-oil? Because that's what it sounds like when you come up with hocus pocus about there being 11 possible faces when we know that at least one die is showing a 2.

I am going to tell you this point blank. When either die is showing a 2 you can't count the other five faces on that die. End of discussion.

We deal with reality on this forum. Now go back to the WOV and bad mouth me there.