I'm going to try to make this real easy AGAIN!!!
I roll one die. It is a 2.
What were the odds that it was going to be a 2----1 of 6.
What are the odds that it is a 2----100%.
It is all about understanding plain simple english.
This has been argued for months now and here it is in plain simple english. We (1-6ers)see the 2 and therefore only consider the odds on the remaining die. You (1-11ers)are viewing the probabilities of something that the plain english does not ask for.