More Justification BS For Getting Casino Credit

[alpax]

While So Cal residents take the Interstate 15 to Vegas. There have been numerous stories where law enforcement are doing checks on Interstate 40 at various points for cracking down on drug trafficking. The dogs are trained to smell a strong stenches of cash and police will do searches and find large amounts of cash. The person will be convicted of using the cash for the purpose to purchase drugs.

Some high roller gamblers are known to have been interrogated by the law enforcement when they were spotted of having so much cash. The only thing that saved them from more haggle is the W2Gs they were able to present.

[redietz]

Surprisingly, I have carried large sums of cash through airports on a couple of occasions and have not been questioned about it once.

There is no law against carrying cash or being reticent about why you are carrying it. I'd tell law enforcement to go suck an egg. It's a joke. Ninety percent of US currency has cocaine residue of some kind.

[regnis]

I mentioned 2 life and death battles I have had, and was lucky to come out of either one. Maybe I'm stupid for fighting to save the $$$--I could just blindly hand it over, but I had a significant amount of cash on me both times. One was strictly random--the 3 attackers had no idea the kind of cash that I was carrying. The other, in the hallway going to my room at Caesars may not have been random, although I am always cautious and aware of anyone watching or following me.

The only downside I see to markers is if you overextend. Apparently, I am way less likely to do that than get attacked.

Also keep in mind that at airport security you now have to empty your pockets and if you have cash, hold that wad of cash in your hand, where anyone can see it, as you pass through security.

[redietz]

To add to regnis, do not carry cash in your pocket or wallet at the airport. Carry it elsewhere.

[Rob.Singer]

Those stories about people travelling on Interstates that have larger sums of cash confiscated always have caveats attached, such as mistaken identity or similar vehicles to ones suspected to be involved in some sort of crime or just unsavory bum-types with stupid neck tattoos etc. driving them, who by definition are asking for trouble. If you let your life be controlled by something like that then you're a very uncomfortable person overall.

Alan, I "only" was carrying $63,000 on the Harley from LV to Phx. after hitting four Aces w/a kicker on a Caesar's hi-limit room $25 machine. The only other time it was a miniscule $20k. I was in my 50's then--still invincible. I have since sold it.

[FABismonte]

Those stories about people travelling on Interstates that have larger sums of cash confiscated always have caveats attached, such as mistaken identity or similar vehicles to ones suspected to be involved in some sort of crime or just unsavory bum-types with stupid neck tattoos etc. driving them, who by definition are asking for trouble. If you let your life be controlled by something like that then you're a very uncomfortable person overall.

Alan, I "only" was carrying $63,000 on the Harley from LV to Phx. after hitting four Aces w/a kicker on a Caesar's hi-limit room $25 machine. The only other time it was a miniscule $20k. I was in my 50's then--still invincible. I have since sold it.

Rob, I am happy that you were never a victim but I do think unfair and baseless police seizures of cash directed against gamblers and other non-criminals are an increasing phenomena. Here is a six part article by the Washington Post regarding this published last fall:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/inv...op-and-seize/#

A big reason is that the police have a financial incentive.

BTW, your story about hitting that $63,000 jackpot and coming back from a losing position was my favorite story from your vptruth.com website. Too bad I could not find it again.

FAB

[Alan Mendelson]

Why is it absurd?

If I play 5,000 tiers today, and you play 1,000 tiers 6 consecutive weeks (while I don't play again during that time), guess who has the greater expected loss?

Hint: Not me.

WRONG. I don't play for points. If I'm losing I stop. If I've won a bundle I take it home. If you're playing for points you're stuck playing and that's absurd. So yes, bring plenty of cash.

[redietz]

WRONG. I don't play for points. If I'm losing I stop. If I've won a bundle I take it home. If you're playing for points you're stuck playing and that's absurd. So yes, bring plenty of cash.

I just do not see how losing for recreation is more rational, noble, or self-aware than losing for points.

[Alan Mendelson]

I just do not see how losing for recreation is more rational, noble, or self-aware than losing for points.

You're missing the point. Our friend Dan has a loss limit of 5,000 tier points. My loss limit is measured in dollars and its not a lot.

When I play I don't have to play $5 or $2 video poker to score points, and I don't have to play 5-handed games to score points. Sometimes I'm happy playing single line 25-cents.

In fact on my last trip to Vegas for Father's Day, Gwen and my daughter and I sat together playing single line 25-cents Bonus in the Forum casino and had a great time. My loss was $100. Gwen lost $200. Marisa played all night on the same $100 bill.

I don't plan my trips around "points."

[Rob.Singer]

FAB, my position on the seizure of cash is to keep on doing it. It's the very stupidest of people who drive around with lots of cash, then at the same time they have expired tags or commit minor or major traffic violations. I'm all for sticking it to speeders, red light runners, stop sign ignorers, tailgaters, and especially drunk/impaired drivers and those idiots who just have to drive while texting or talking on the phone. Good for the agencies that take these jerks down, then legally take their cash. Love every bit of it. Maybe one by one people will eventually learn to drive according to the rules because the rules are there to keep everyone safe.

[Alan Mendelson]

Rob: what about the innocent people traveling to casinos who just happen to have a large amount of cash on them who get stopped at routine checkpoints -- and then their cash is seized??

[regnis]

That has been a big problem for people from the Chicago area who make the drive to Windsor and have to cross in and out of Canada. Going in you never tell them that you are going to the casino--you have to make up something else. Otherwise they smell the $$$$.

[redietz]

FAB, my position on the seizure of cash is to keep on doing it. It's the very stupidest of people who drive around with lots of cash, then at the same time they have expired tags or commit minor or major traffic violations. I'm all for sticking it to speeders, red light runners, stop sign ignorers, tailgaters, and especially drunk/impaired drivers and those idiots who just have to drive while texting or talking on the phone. Good for the agencies that take these jerks down, then legally take their cash. Love every bit of it. Maybe one by one people will eventually learn to drive according to the rules because the rules are there to keep everyone safe.

Rob, did you actually read the article? The bulk of the pullovers were either for not signalling lane changes or minor (under 10 mph more) speeding. There are for-profit businesses that have sites which allow officers to share information with other jurisdictions so some poor bastard who gets pulled over and cleared can have it done again 100 miles later.

It's outrageous.

[Rob.Singer]

Rob: what about the innocent people traveling to casinos who just happen to have a large amount of cash on them who get stopped at routine checkpoints -- and then their cash is seized??

I found nowhere that said "innocents" were victims.

[Rob.Singer]

Rob, did you actually read the article? The bulk of the pullovers were either for not signalling lane changes or minor (under 10 mph more) speeding. There are for-profit businesses that have sites which allow officers to share information with other jurisdictions so some poor bastard who gets pulled over and cleared can have it done again 100 miles later.

It's outrageous.

Yes I read the entire set of articles as well as researched further, including talking to a friend of mine whose son works in Homeland Security.

I'm all for what they are doing. Not signaling lane changes is ignorant and against the rules of driving in all 50 states. And since when is going over the speed limit lawful. People need to learn that a 60mph limit does not mean you can go 64 and not get a ticket. In Pa. (your college state) the Turnpike has numerous warning signs all over it clearly identifying the fines for going even 1mph over the limit. So for anybody carrying larger amounts of cash, they're pretty GD stupid to try to get on the radar by doing anything wrong. I heard about this " program" after 9/11, and in all my casino trips since then I was only stopped once while on my trip around Nv. to write my 2nd book. Nothing happened, and I didn't even get a ticket. A lot has to do with your ability to interact effectively with the authorities. Dumbasses aren't capable of that.

[Alan Mendelson]

Rob do you believe seizing cash is justified when someone speeds or fails to signal a lane change?

[RS__]

As usual, Rob has no idea what he's talking about.

[redietz]

I'm chuckling at the idea that someone can anonymously report Rob's RV for illegal lane changing and "suspicious behavior" to one of the mentioned web sites, and then we could all enjoy the fact that if Rob actually had any cash in the thing, he'd be donating portions to various and sundry jurisdictions.

Hmmm, actually, Rob's propensity to carry cash, a firearm, and travel interstate willy nilly sounds like he should be on every DEA and Homeland Security list imaginable. I guess one of us needs to perform a civic duty and call it in.

We all know Rob never clenches his jaw, buys energy drinks, has a pulsing carotid, or other suspicious behaviors, so he wouldn't get in any real trouble, anyway, right?

P.S. You know, it just occurred to me that someone who carries large sums of cash, a firearm, travels willy nilly interstate, claims he won money winning at negative expectation video poker, and says he never illegally changes lanes or goes a mile an hour over the speed limit, is probably a very, very suspicious character in the eyes of the law. Best to steer clear of the southern lawmen, Rob. They're an distrustful lot.

[FABismonte]

Given my experience on how many people drive over the speed limit on the highway and tailgate, I believe that a motorist driving exactly or just under the speed limit and not following the vehicle ahead too closely is suspicious. It is probably a drug dealer, crooked gambler or other person with cash who has an inconsistent story trying overly hard not to be pulled over by law enforcement and so subject to confiscation of money even if not charged with a crime.

FAB

[Rob.Singer]

Rob do you believe seizing cash is justified when someone speeds or fails to signal a lane change?

Yes. Unless and until it is disallowed by the law, which it currently is not.