Alan: This person HAS to leave here tonight forever

[Alan Mendelson]

The forum costs me $400 a year to run... and a lot of time. If anyone would like to buy the forum and take it over and run it their way -- or shut it down -- let me know.

My income from the forum is ZERO.

[Count Room]

The forum costs me $400 a year to run... and a lot of time. If anyone would like to buy the forum and take it over and run it their way -- or shut it down -- let me know.

My income from the forum is ZERO.

Once per year: $5,000 marker in Vegas, Rob's ARTT with $400 win goal. It will work 9 years out of 10, won't it?

[LoneStarHorse]

Alan

I'll pitch in $200 don't want any ownership or perks... Tell me how to send you the money...

The forum costs me $400 a year to run... and a lot of time. If anyone would like to buy the forum and take it over and run it their way -- or shut it down -- let me know.

My income from the forum is ZERO.

[a2a3dseddie]

LoneStarHorse,

Really, I wouldn't get worked up over anything the "little man" has to say.

Actually, I know that what Rob does online is all an act. There -- I've said it. It's an act.

Alan is friends with him, and at times I think the entire forum is fodder for some elaborate inside joke between the two of them.

Alan says Rob's online persona is all an act. That means it's make believe. There's no more point in giving ANYTHING "little man" has to say a second thought.

What's "true" and what isn't?

His IRS son-in-law? His Arizona storage locker with the secrets of the Universe? His $100,000 wins per year for 10 years? His special plays? Him deducting $100,000 worth of dinners and groceries yearly for 10 years? His jackpot wins? His long time marriage? His multiple RVs and cell phones? His purported W2Gs? His purported tax returns?

Who cares.

As Alan has said, it's all an act.

[Alan Mendelson]

What a2a3dseddie said above is hard to disagree with. I think Rob won the money he said he won. I honestly doubt a lot of the other stuff. If he offset the winnings on his tax returns he did it with losses. I've been told the IRS doesn't consider any gambler a true winner unless they hit some mega jackpot. Rob could easily have offset his profits with losses. Gamblers have been picking up losing race slips off of racetrack grounds ever since the IRS started taxing wins.

The storage locker also contains the original blue prints for the pyramids, the name of the second gunman, and the map to find Jimmy Hoffa and this is why Rob won't reveal its whereabouts. Also -- and he didn't tell us this before -- the real Mona Lisa is in his storage locker and the one in Paris is a fake.

Yes, I honestly believe Rob won money playing high limit video poker. When you play high limit VP you can win $100,000 a year.

I have no idea and can't possibly imagine why he took on the Internet persona he did. It troubles me.

About having multiple RVs: Maybe he rented one. Maybe he just got carried away with his claims. Or maybe it's true. Does it really matter? I don't care. Just like I don't care who has a boat and who has a dingy and who lives in a big house or drives a new car.

The only thing I care about is information that could help someone win. I can't find fault with the idea that you walk out of a casino after hitting a big winner. I don't endorse his special plays but I can understand how they might help and I've admitted to using a special play once in Triple Double Bonus (had three As with a kicker and dropped the kicker -- didn't matter) and once in Bonus Poker (broke up a full house with three aces and got the fourth ace).

Rob created a mess for himself. He's had "fights" with others on this forum and others but it's hard to tell who threw the first punch.

He's not crazy but he posts crazy things. He's been warned and I said it to him in phone calls and face-to-face that he should stop -- but he didn't.

I stand by this phrase -- and it's something I told him: He is his own worst enemy.

[Alan Mendelson]

Alan

I'll pitch in $200 don't want any ownership or perks... Tell me how to send you the money...

Thanks but I want to sell the whole thing. Your offer of a $200 contribution is appreciated but won't help me sell this.

[LoneStarHorse]

How's this I'll give you the entire $400 but I don't want any ownership at all... You keep running it

Thanks but I want to sell the whole thing. Your offer of a $200 contribution is appreciated but won't help me sell this.

[Alan Mendelson]

How's this I'll give you the entire $400 but I don't want any ownership at all... You keep running it

I don't understand what the $400 is for? I don't want contributions.
If you want to make changes to how it's run here's your chance -- buy it. Make me an offer. LOL

[LoneStarHorse]

Alan

As I stated I don't want to run this forum, was just helping you out with a donation...

I don't understand what the $400 is for? I don't want contributions.
If you want to make changes to how it's run here's your chance -- buy it. Make me an offer. LOL

[Alan Mendelson]

Alan

As I stated I don't want to run this forum, was just helping you out with a donation...

Thanks. No donations needed.

[LoneStarHorse]

Tell you what if you really want to sell it and one of the current members would run it, then I'll send Alan the $400... Of course "little man" could not be the person running it...

Thanks. No donations needed.

[quahaug]

Alan. If someone can win $100,000 at vp playing high stakes then a quarter player should be able to win $10,000 maybe $20,000 per year playing sub optimal pay tables, correct?

[coach belly]

Tell you what if you really want to sell it and one of the current members would run it, then I'll send Alan the $400

It's costs $400 per year to run the forum...he may be looking for more than that to sell it.

[Alan Mendelson]

It's costs $400 per year to run the forum...he may be looking for more than that to sell it.

Frankly if I could get my money back I'd sell this. I've been running it for about 6 years.

[arcimede$]

I will not remove Rob's pages. There needs to be a record of what he said. I won't burn books I don't agree with. Don't mention censorship to a journalist.

Those of you critical of Rob's strategy are able to criticize it here.

Do I think he is obnoxious, childish, offensive and insulting in his posts? Pretty much all the time, yes. All he is doing is digging a deeper hole for himself. He will find hell but I won't censor his ideas.

The problem Alan is Rob's videos remain front and center while criticisms fade away. If you remember I completely debunked many of Singer's special plays several years ago but no one could find those comments anymore. So, in fact, you are advertising Singer's lies while the factual responses fade away. Not very journalistic of you.

[Alan Mendelson]

Actually, Rob debunks his own special plays. He says upfront they are at a disadvantage. What else do you need to say? He just says it gives him a chance to get lucky. Either he gets lucky or he doesn't. End of story.

[slobdinger]

Alan, you are a great person. They can never take that away from you. But your friendship with Rob reminds me of the John Steinbeck novel "Of Mice And Men."

[arcimede$]

Actually, Rob debunks his own special plays. He says upfront they are at a disadvantage. What else do you need to say? He just says it gives him a chance to get lucky. Either he gets lucky or he doesn't. End of story.

What I showed is many of his plays reduce his chances of getting lucky. End of story.

[Alan Mendelson]

What I showed is many of his plays reduce his chances of getting lucky. End of story.

You're right. Now a reality check: even Rob said he chose to make a "special play" only 5% of the time.

My honest opinion: he rarely used a special play. And that 5% of the time that he mentioned -- I'm thinking it was 5% of the time when he could make a special play or the conventional play. So what tiny percentage of VP hands might that be?

I think his special plays were "headline grabbers" that factored very little into his real results. After all that last $50,000 win he showed us -- was it a "special play"? No. And he said he didn't even consider using a special play.

[arcimede$]

You're right. Now a reality check: even Rob said he chose to make a "special play" only 5% of the time.

My honest opinion: he rarely used a special play. And that 5% of the time that he mentioned -- I'm thinking it was 5% of the time when he could make a special play or the conventional play. So what tiny percentage of VP hands might that be?

I think his special plays were "headline grabbers" that factored very little into his real results. After all that last $50,000 win he showed us -- was it a "special play"? No. And he said he didn't even consider using a special play.

Still doesn't change the fact he was playing negative games. I had several W2Gs in 2014 in just 3 months when I didn't win a cent. This past year I had over 100 W2Gs and while I won, all it would have taken is about 10 fewer to have netted me a loss. I played just a little over the return of the game. Singer claims to have played games with a 98-99% return. Even if he would have been as lucky as I was he would have still lost.

In fact, why believe anything he shows. It is easy to walk around a high limit room and take a picture of someone who got a lucky hit. It is not evidence of squat. The only evidence that Singer could have provided is his tax returns and he refused. I wonder what kind of special play that is?