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  1. #361
    I'm sorry that you don't like my answer. That doesn't change the reality that you are not talking about what Rob is talking about. It's apples and oranges, Arc. I don't know which one of you is the orange and which one is the apple, but this lack of communication makes you both fruits.

  2. #362
    Alan, you've brought arci to the end of his rope (and so haven't I, btw, from the looks of his need to respond to my truthful taunts ) as you can easily see whenever he brings up the 2+2 equals 4 example. As you've clearly pointed out, this is not about changing the math books to create a different end result, and has always been about having the discipline and the ability to do certain things that keep the player, in language arci may understand, on the positive side of the bell curve throughout their vp journey, because no one player ever gets anywhere near anything that can even be considered entering the "long-term.

    You see, strict math people like him have a neurotic need to pretend everyone is wrong who doesn't see it their way, which is there cannot possibly be any way to beat a negative expectation game, now or forever, simply because it includes the word "negative". It's really no different than him showing the same neurotic requirement that he MUST explain away--if in his mind only--any perceptions that he's now living despicably as he disappears on his poor ill wife just to get gambling fixes at casinos. If it were me, I'd spend every waking moment with the person I've chosen to spend my life with in such a situation, and I WOULD NOT & COULD NOT continue a bad habit knowing she's unable to do anything about it. Of course, I'd have never moved to LV just to be closer to the machines, dragging her in daily when there were far more healthier options available either.

    So you see, his agenda, frustrations, and making-it-up on the go is all related in every aspect of what he does, and the anger & conflict is readily apparent as the vehicle for all this. Taking words out of context is his specialty, but he gets this one: So goes love....or lack thereof.

  3. #363
    Rob, do me a favor: stop making references to Arc's wife and her illness, unless you would like to start another thread about diabetes, its care, possible cures and prevention. Until I was blessed with a combination kidney/pancreas transplant almost four years ago, I was an insulin-dependent diabetic for about 32 years. I first became diabetic when I was 24. I had various complications including cataracts, nerve damage and of course kidney failure which led to dialysis.

    It's not fun. It robs people blind -- literally as it is a great cause of blindness, and amputations, and can lead to heart disease, stroke, and more.

    For the record: I'm your buddy but I don't like what you say about Arc's family situation. And this is not the first time I've told you this in a public forum. Stop it. You have bigger battles and a bigger purpose and that is to show the public the reality of casino gaming. And maybe with the bucks you'll make for people, and save for people, they will make contributions to help end diabetes.

  4. #364
    Oh I understand the illness very well. I have two aunts and an uncle who've died from the complications. This hasn't been about the disease, but rather about the poor way our friend reacts to being the caretaker during her unfortunate journey. I couldn't be as heartless. When a video poker addiction consistently comes before the considerations of someone close--and the person flaunts it--someone needs to remind that person of a few forgotten things.

    I'll not say another word, unless arci chooses to toss in more meaningless mea culpas.

  5. #365
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    I'm sorry that you don't like my answer. That doesn't change the reality that you are not talking about what Rob is talking about. It's apples and oranges, Arc. I don't know which one of you is the orange and which one is the apple, but this lack of communication makes you both fruits.
    I knew you would face this situation with denial. You don't want to know or understand the truth. Your comment about apples and oranges is a perfect example. Math is math, Alan. They are not different fruits.

    As for the dufus commenting about my wife. It really should provide you with insight into exactly what kind of person you are dealing with. Clearly, he knows nothing about my wife, his only reason for bringing this up is to try and denigrate me. Of course, that is laughable. It only makes him look even more foolish (if that is possible).

    The dufus is a total loser. He doesn't understand simple math, he is the laughing stock of the knowledgeable VP community and he is no doubt a a pathological liar. By having his nonsensical system highlighted on your website, you are bringing disrespect to yourself. When are you going to wake up?

  6. #366
    He's just a glutton for punishment Alan, as you can see! But I'll have to take credit for that, I know. I mean, how many direct hits did you think he could take without losing it anyway? Just imagine you're him for a moment. How would you feel with a conscience like that? Would you not continuously take the devil's advocate point of view against rational thinking people yourself, as you watch things fizzle before your very eyes? It's the only reason he's here, as I'm sure you've figured out by now. If he wanted to blab on and on about advantage play without the conflict, he'd be spending all his effort on LVA or videopoker.com. He requires at least SOME sort of stimulation these days....
    Last edited by Rob.Singer; 05-07-2012 at 08:07 AM.

  7. #367
    I'll just throw this in -- I've done the full-time caretaking thing. Medical professionals will tell you, rather strongly, to get at least a couple of shifts away from the caretaking every week. I really did not, and it was a mistake long term, as things do not get better and you need to have some reserve of energy with which to deal. Video poker or going to the movies are really good options because you just zone out and give your mind a rest. If you don't get breaks, you'll physically wear down and exhibit problems, and this helps nobody; it makes the person receiving care feel guilty.

    If you haven't done it, Rob, you have no idea what full time caregiving entails. You really don't. And spending a couple of days in hospital with a sick aunt or somebody doesn't count for anything. Real caregiving is like being in a foxhole with someone, and knowing you may not get out. Arci's to be commended for hanging in there. Many men abandon the post.

  8. #368
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    I'll just throw this in -- I've done the full-time caretaking thing. Medical professionals will tell you, rather strongly, to get at least a couple of shifts away from the caretaking every week. I really did not, and it was a mistake long term, as things do not get better and you need to have some reserve of energy with which to deal. Video poker or going to the movies are really good options because you just zone out and give your mind a rest. If you don't get breaks, you'll physically wear down and exhibit problems, and this helps nobody; it makes the person receiving care feel guilty.

    If you haven't done it, Rob, you have no idea what full time caregiving entails. You really don't. And spending a couple of days in hospital with a sick aunt or somebody doesn't count for anything. Real caregiving is like being in a foxhole with someone, and knowing you may not get out. Arci's to be commended for hanging in there. Many men abandon the post.
    Very articulate and accurate description of the medical profession's take on caregiving. But, don't expect anything to change with the dufus. His statements on topics like this are clear evidence of his narcissistic nature.

  9. #369
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    I'll just throw this in -- I've done the full-time caretaking thing. Medical professionals will tell you, rather strongly, to get at least a couple of shifts away from the caretaking every week. I really did not, and it was a mistake long term, as things do not get better and you need to have some reserve of energy with which to deal. Video poker or going to the movies are really good options because you just zone out and give your mind a rest. If you don't get breaks, you'll physically wear down and exhibit problems, and this helps nobody; it makes the person receiving care feel guilty.

    If you haven't done it, Rob, you have no idea what full time caregiving entails. You really don't. And spending a couple of days in hospital with a sick aunt or somebody doesn't count for anything. Real caregiving is like being in a foxhole with someone, and knowing you may not get out. Arci's to be commended for hanging in there. Many men abandon the post.
    Sure that makes sense, to a point. Depends upon what type of relationship it is and if the caretaker had anything to do with exacerbating the problem. Arci addicted he & the missus to the vp machines, and when they could have and should have been involved in far more productive and healthier activities, what did he do? Yup, ignore all that, entice her with a vice he knew she couldn't and wouldn't fight, and head straight to LV until he HAD to listen to the medical professionals--or likely end up in the Clark County jail system. Now of course, while you're an apologist for the guy, he rambled off to get his gambling fixes under the guise of "how important it is for caregivers to have time away".

    That might hold water.....if it weren't for the tiny fact that this is a SPOUSE. When my mother died of colon cancer at a very young age, I watched my father and her mother sit by her side for almost two years, non-stop until she passed. You didn't see him sneak off to the track or go out with the guys or even go to work, making believe it was a better way just so he could do it. I never understood that until I was married and until I had a child. Maybe we have different value systems, but I learned from my father and he was 100% right. YOU NEVER ABANDON A SPOUSE IN THEIR TIME OF NEED--ESPECIALLY TO DO SOMETHING SO VILE AS GOING TO A CASINO--BECAUSE NO MATTER WHAT THEY OR ANYBODY ELSE TELLS YOU, THEY REALLY, REALLY DO NOT WANT YOU TO LEAVE THEIR SIDE. IT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH RESPECT.

    So goes love....or lack thereof.
    Last edited by Rob.Singer; 05-07-2012 at 11:17 AM.

  10. #370
    My condolences, Rob. I know what a difficult disease that is -- my best friend passed away at 34 from it, and it had killed his father and uncle at similar ages. Very genetic, very difficult.

  11. #371
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    My condolences, Rob. I know what a difficult disease that is -- my best friend passed away at 34 from it, and it had killed his father and uncle at similar ages. Very genetic, very difficult.
    Thank you. My mom also had two sisters that died from it in addition to her. I'm just lucky not to have had it....yet.

  12. #372
    There are two forms of diabetes: one is the failure of the pancreas to produce insulin or the body's inability to use the insulin to control blood sugar, which is often known as Type 1 or Juvenile Diabetes.

    And then there is Type 2 diabetes where the insulin production is not enough to control blood sugar levels. Diabetes is also a disease of old age. The pancreas is one of the first organs to give out.

    In my case, NO ONE in my family had it but me. Not my parents or grandparents, their siblings. And not my kids. Sometimes it's just bad luck. And some think it might be caused by a virus and I might have been exposed to the virus.

    I became diabetic when I was a reporter in Syracuse. Curiously, there were a lot of employees at the station with diabetes, and for a small TV station it was very unusual. I once mentioned this years later and it was suggested that I report this to the CDC for investigation but I never did.
    Last edited by Alan Mendelson; 05-07-2012 at 03:01 PM.

  13. #373
    I did a little reading on the Epstein-Barr virus. It's a unique virus in that it tries to fool the bodies immune system. It does this by something called cellular mimicry. Essentially, it disguises itself to look like one of your normal cells. However, this often doesn't work as the bodies immune system still attacks the virus.

    The problem is your immune system is now trained to attack your own body in a very special way. It is believed that many auto-immune problems could be due to this chain of events. Whatever part of the body that was copied becomes the target of the immune system. If it is the pancreas you end up with Type I diabetes. However, there are over 100 auto-immune diseases that could be related.

    So, it may be the heredity factor is just something that makes one susceptible to the virus and not a major factor in the disease. If Alan and many of his comrades all were exposed to a strong and special version of the virus that might explain why so many came down with the same disease.

    I read where about 95% of all adults are carriers of Epstein-Barr. So, most of get it at some time. It is the virus that causes Mononucleosis.

  14. #374
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Sure that makes sense, to a point. Depends upon what type of relationship it is and if the caretaker had anything to do with exacerbating the problem. Arci addicted he & the missus to the vp machines, and when they could have and should have been involved in far more productive and healthier activities, what did he do? Yup, ignore all that, entice her with a vice he knew she couldn't and wouldn't fight, and head straight to LV until he HAD to listen to the medical professionals--or likely end up in the Clark County jail system. Now of course, while you're an apologist for the guy, he rambled off to get his gambling fixes under the guise of "how important it is for caregivers to have time away".

    That might hold water.....if it weren't for the tiny fact that this is a SPOUSE. When my mother died of colon cancer at a very young age, I watched my father and her mother sit by her side for almost two years, non-stop until she passed. You didn't see him sneak off to the track or go out with the guys or even go to work, making believe it was a better way just so he could do it. I never understood that until I was married and until I had a child. Maybe we have different value systems, but I learned from my father and he was 100% right. YOU NEVER ABANDON A SPOUSE IN THEIR TIME OF NEED--ESPECIALLY TO DO SOMETHING SO VILE AS GOING TO A CASINO--BECAUSE NO MATTER WHAT THEY OR ANYBODY ELSE TELLS YOU, THEY REALLY, REALLY DO NOT WANT YOU TO LEAVE THEIR SIDE. IT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH RESPECT.

    So goes love....or lack thereof.
    Rob, when it comes to another person's personal life, regardless of what your life has been like, kindly STFU.

  15. #375
    So goes love Vic....or lack thereof

    (You can see why arci tells all those lies about himself....and me.)

  16. #376
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    So goes love Vic....or lack thereof

    (You can see why arci tells all those lies about himself....and me.)
    Funny, everything I've stated has proven to be true. OTOH, just about everything the dufus says turns out to be a lie. You know, like those secret regulations absolutely no one knows about.

    Keep digging dufus. People catch on sooner or later.

  17. #377
    Funny, you didn't comment on the other part of that. Could it be because the truth always bears down on pathological liars?

    The more you ignore it, the more you show how deeply it hurts! As well it should, so please don't get angry and go losing it again in your reply!

  18. #378
    I'm concerned about what's happened to the gift that keeps on giving....aka, arci.

    All our best, my friend!

  19. #379
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    I'm concerned about what's happened to the gift that keeps on giving....aka, arci.
    Been busy lately. My wife started up with a new home health care agency and that has taken a lot of time.

    However, I had her friend come over last night and took yet another trip to the casino. Overall, I came out $1700 ahead. However, the key take away here is that I have now won 4 of my last 5 sessions. This was after losing 8 of the previous 9. That is how advantage play works. As I said before, I should win about 40-50% of my sessions, but the variance of the game means streaks will not be uncommon.

    This is why claims that somehow an APer will not win are so silly. Playing with an edge will work kind of like the tides ... You may have lows as well as highs but the overall effect will eventually rule for the vast majority of players.

  20. #380
    Sounds like a great life arci, and you're just the guy for the job! I guess that's what you mean when referring to the "highs and lows". Only problem is, it sounds like the lows are when you are home, and the highs are when you get your fixes at the Indian casino. You don't see a problem with that? But it may be that ALL so-called AP's wrestle with these type of challenging moral and social problems. Look at Dancer for instance; then see if you can explain why Fezzik is a walking humiliation sponge. Then we have Frank, a piece of work in his own right. And how about those idiots on LVA?

    Chin up, my friend!

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