Originally Posted by RS__ View Post
0% chance Rob's strategies "work" (ie: a winning system).


For me to believe in DI, I'd like to see the actual true results of dice throws (what they land on, relative to the dice set....not so much interested in $$$ won or lost), in an actual casino environment (even playing solo with no one else at table is fine), such that the dice throw results are at least 3 standard deviations from expectation.


What hurts all (okay, most) of these "DI" people is their complete lack of knowledge about statistics, EV, or anything else ANY and EVERY AP knows. Ask a DI what their EV is for every "round" of the dice they get (from first roll to 7-out) and he doesn't have an idea. Ask him what his EV is for when he establishes a point of 5 (or any other point) -- again, no idea. Ask him to show dice outcome frequencies for his "V" set (or whatever it's called) and he doesn't know wtf you're talking about, likely because he hasn't even kept records of that type of thing -- which would be paramount to someone attempting DI.


Most of the DI type people talk about pressing their bets so they have little down-side when/if they do an immediate 7-out, money management in the form of system betting, and plenty more BS. It's definitely a ruse for the gullible, at least for the most part.
I would like to respond to RS__.

What you deem is important is actually of no importance. There are only two goals in DI which are:

A. Increase the appearance of the 7, or
B. Decrease the appearance of the 7.

Dice Influencers don't give a damn about EVs or any statistics except for the statistic showing whether or not they got more 7s when they wanted them or got fewer 7s when they didn't want the 7 to show.

About setting the dice and which numbers they show: that also doesn't matter. For some Dice Influencers setting the cross sixes will give them outside numbers and for some the cross sixes will give them inside numbers. I use the cross sixes set -- and frankly as long as I avoid the 7 I'm happy.