Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
Originally Posted by a2a3dseddie View Post
[You have two 6-sided dice in a cup. You shake the dice, and slam the cup down onto the table, hiding the result. Your partner peeks under the cup, and tells you, truthfully, "At least one of the dice is a 2." What is the probability that both dice are showing a 2?
Alan, the above question is the original question asked. Two years ago I found some college math professors online and submitted this question to them. They all agreed that the answer to the above question, repeat, the above question, and not any other question, is 1 in 11. I talked one of them into coming onto this site and explaining the answer, which he did. You quickly discounted him and stuck to your answer of 1 in 6.

Alan, you have some pretty heavy journalist credentials. I'm sure you know the right channels to go through. Would you submit the above question, written exactly as it is above, to several math departments of universities in southern California? Then publish their responses here?

If even one college math professor tells you that the answer is 1 in 6 I will kiss your ass on main street at high noon with Rob Singer and everyone else watching.
What's interesting Mickey is that two years ago, when this was being discussed on the WOV forum, and then here, I put the question WORD FOR WORD to 8 different dice experts. They happened to be the dealers at two tables at Caesars Palace. Six dealers and two floormen. They all had the same answer: 1/6

Do you know what they told me when I suggested the answer might be 1/11 ? They all said the same thing: in this casino you can only count each die once. So, if one die is showing a 2, you can't rotate that die to show any other number -- it's a 2 and it can't be considered anymore.

So why don't you and all the others who say the answer is 1/11 go to a casino and ask the dealers this very same question. Let me know what they say. If you happen to get a dealer at a casino who says the answer is 1/11 get me the casino's name and the badge name (full name would be better) so I can visit with that dealer at that casino.