Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
I don't include losing hands as contributing to wins. That's like the "Phantom bucks" Rob Singer talks about.

If you want to include them in how you play go ahead.
We both play $1 8/5 BP for just two hands. I get a 20% loss rebate and you get nothing. The first hand we both get two pair for a 5 credit profit. The next hands we both lose so we both lose 5 credits. Here you'll just break even. I'll get 20% back of that loss for a 1 credit or $1 profit. Who won?

Even if we lost both hands, I still come out ahead of you by $2. Like any other advantage play, you won't always win.
The longer we play, the more likely I'll get ahead.
How about the longer you play the deeper the hole? Oh I forgot. You always make a profit because you only play +EV.