Originally Posted by FABismonte View Post
Originally Posted by redietz View Post
Rebates in a scenario where you are guaranteed to lose before you activate the rebate can't make you whole. Rebates in a scenario where you are not guaranteed to lose before you activate the rebate can make you more than whole.

I don't know anywhere that forces you to lose before the rebate is active. As soon as you sign up for the slot card, the rebate potential exists.

As I said previously (if anyone was paying attention), I've done two of these where I made half the rebate amount upon playing initially, similar to what FAB did. I then stopped, similar to what FAB did. Nothing stops you from making that much or much more before the rebate kicks in. So what FAB and I reported can obviously be done. You don't have to collect the rebate for the ongoing presence of the rebate to be the reason you won. I wouldn't play lousy pay tables in the first place (like at Cosmo) if I didn't have the rebate backing me up. It flipped the advantage.

I'm really curious. Does anyone else reading this besides Alan not understand this?
Hi RED:

As the original poster, I asked a question about a particular loss rebate offer where I understood there was two possible outcomes I was interested in pursuing: (1) I win some money say ($250) right away on high volatility games I do not normally play like $25 Double Diamond Slots, or $5 Wheel of Fortune and quit with a profit; or (2) I lose all $500, then play a low volatility game like 9/6 JOB on the free play and then cash out my free play as soon as I can for an expected minimal loss on my $500. To the extent you are discussing the same situation, then we are on the same page.

That said, this thread went off on a bizarre tangent with weird non-existent hypotheticals of loss rebates on each losing hand, ect. If Dan Druff is not fully occupied with the WSOP, I suggest that the tangential hypothetical debate on this thread be moved to its own thread.

FAB
Essentially FAB, to my understanding, you asked if you should go ultra aggressive with the free play. If you won big--great. If you lost, you play the rebate money conservatively one time through and try to minimize the loss. To me--good strategy. Apparently Alan does not agree as there is a chance you still lose big on the rebate play.