Originally Posted by
Rob.Singer
All self-serving nonsense from one of the biggest bsers on the forum circuit. Axel loves to portray his anonymous self as some hot-shot/money-makin' "AP" who trots around town outsmarting casinos at their own game (the math, duh) but all he does is claim secrecy whenever anyone requests proof-of-claims. Then bocce come on in an obvious failed attempt to save face by giving the age-old excuse these ap's regularly throw out there about how they win and why they just can't release the trick behind their phantom bucks extravaganzas:THE MATH!!
Your pal kew didn't help your cause very much by making that ridiculous claim about accurately keeping count at his and another table before jumping, did he axel. You see how stupid and foolish you ap's look to people who actually gamble successfully?
I've seen axel in action on at least one play so can testify as to his ability to beat casinos. It was on a double time promotion at the Pioneer in Laughlin. The machines were quarter game kings with video poker and 4-card keno. When the machines went into double time mode(the double time lasted one minute) everything that paid from 60 to 150 coins paid double. The credits racked up on the machine so you didn't have to stop for an attendent to pay you. 60 coins was to high for a full house to qualify for double pay. The only thing in video poker that fit in the parameter was 4 of a kind on 9/6 Jacks.
The 4-card keno was a max 4 coins bet ($1) on each card. The 2-spot paid 15 for 1 or 60 coins. So axel loaded each card with 2 numbers. In the one minute double time he could hit the deal button ten times. With the four cards that would be 40 games total at $1 bet on each. The frequency of a 2-spot is 16.63157 games. So it was rare not to hit 2-spots when in double time mode.
A 2-spot paying 15 for 1 is a 90% game (15/16.63157 = 90%). So in double time it was worth 180%. In double time he got out a $40 wager. Thats an average profit of $32 per double time.
One of the drawbacks to the play was you had to keep your machine qualified to be eligible for double time. When you played a game the border around the card reader would turn green. That meant your machine was qualified. If you waited 11 seconds before playing another game the border would turn red meaning the machine wasn't qualified. So you had to play a game every 10 seconds. The question was what game to play.
If you played the keno you could bet just one quarter per card or $1. At 90% return it cost you 10 cents per game to keep the machine qualified. Then you hit max bet when the machine went into double time. But you could bet just one quarter on 9/6 jacks to keep the machine qualified too. It was a 98% game with the royal short coined. So it cost half a penny per game to keep the machine qualified.
So axel played the 9/6 jacks during non double time. When the machine went into double time mode (about every ten minutes) axel hit the menu tab, then on the game selection screen hit the 4-card keno tab, then smacked the max bet button on the keno game. So it only cost about 30 cents to keep the machine qualified for double time. A 30 cent cost to make $32. And double time came around about every ten minutes. So the play was worth about $180 an hour.
I witnessed axel putting down this play because I was sitting just a few seats away doing the same thing. The casino eventually got tired of us beating the shit out of them and changed the parameters on double time. They raised it to 120 to 250 coins. My idea was to switch to the 3-spot which had a frequency of 72. It qualifed for the double pay but it would take much longer to pull the money out of the game. Axel had a better idea. Play the same numbers on two cards.
I was originally playing 1 and 2 on the 1st card, 3 and 4 on the 2nd card, 5 and 6 on the 3rd card, and 7 and 8 on the 4th card. I switched to playing 1 and 2 on the 1st and 2nd cards, 3 and 4 on the 3rd and 4th cards. When the two spot hit it payed 120 coins which doubled to 240 coins. So we beat the shit out of the casino some more.
Axel made the comment earlier about AP's thinking outside the box. The above is a prime example of how some AP's think outside the box.